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MUbiz

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 23, 2024, 09:39:04 AM
Terrible take. Andrei and I are having fun roasting him for this ridiculous A5 defense. And DeCourcy always takes the bait.

This is the x thread Brew is referring to - its LOL. Well done Brew!

https://x.com/brewcity1977/status/1793375360610124083


Uncle Rico

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WhiteTrash

So essentially state governments looking to private entities to bail out their screw ups. That's a first.  ::)

This is payback for the whole GM thing?


hawk


#UnleashSean


muwarrior69

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 23, 2024, 09:39:04 AM
Terrible take. Andrei and I are having fun roasting him for this ridiculous A5 defense. And DeCourcy always takes the bait.

Well, we all know Ty can't read but who knew you and Andrea can't do math?

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Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

brewcity77

Quote from: muwarrior69 on May 24, 2024, 12:10:27 PM
Well, we all know Ty can't read but who knew you and Andrea can't do math?

Do you also not understand the meaning of proportionality?
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nwestpha

Good article from cbs:
//https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/historic-house-case-settlement-has-college-basketball-not-college-football-to-thank-for-saving-the-ncaa/[url]
The NCAA tournament, through this settlement, saves the 'power 4' conferences a ton of money, and the other conferences get for unlawful carnal knowledged.

muwarrior69


JakeBarnes

Quote from: nwestpha on May 24, 2024, 03:04:06 PM
Good article from cbs:
//https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/historic-house-case-settlement-has-college-basketball-not-college-football-to-thank-for-saving-the-ncaa/[url]
The NCAA tournament, through this settlement, saves the 'power 4' conferences a ton of money, and the other conferences get for unlawful carnal knowledged.

The Pauper 4
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forgetful

I would expect eventual lawsuits against the NCAA for requiring the employees also to be students and to maintain specific GPAs/degree progress. Also, why limit them to only 4-years, there are no such limits on any other students and their employment with the universities.

There already will be no scholarship limits (replaced with roster limits), it is hard to argue that they are "student athletes" and not "compensated employees." So why the requirement of being a student, and limits on the duration they can be involved.

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: forgetful on May 25, 2024, 07:17:33 PM
I would expect eventual lawsuits against the NCAA for requiring the employees also to be students and to maintain specific GPAs/degree progress. Also, why limit them to only 4-years, there are no such limits on any other students and their employment with the universities.

There already will be no scholarship limits (replaced with roster limits), it is hard to argue that they are "student athletes" and not "compensated employees." So why the requirement of being a student, and limits on the duration they can be involved.

Some may take your post as sarcasm but I can easily see that happening. A player charged with rape was allowed by a judge to play because not playing would negatively impact his NIL earning potential and NBA prospects. So what if a kid failed every class he took...or had to take classes? He needs to play and make money.

If they are employees they aren't held to academic standards anymore.
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SaveOD238

Quote from: forgetful on May 25, 2024, 07:17:33 PM
I would expect eventual lawsuits against the NCAA for requiring the employees also to be students and to maintain specific GPAs/degree progress. Also, why limit them to only 4-years, there are no such limits on any other students and their employment with the universities.

There already will be no scholarship limits (replaced with roster limits), it is hard to argue that they are "student athletes" and not "compensated employees." So why the requirement of being a student, and limits on the duration they can be involved.

There are plenty of regular students who are paid by their universities and required to maintain GPAs and graduation requirements.  Grad assistants, RAs, etc.  I don't think there's an argument to be had there.

Four years of eligibility though, that might be open to a lawsuit.

Jay Bee

Quote from: forgetful on May 25, 2024, 07:17:33 PM
I would expect eventual lawsuits against the NCAA for requiring the employees also to be students and to maintain specific GPAs/degree progress. Also, why limit them to only 4-years, there are no such limits on any other students and their employment with the universities.

There already will be no scholarship limits (replaced with roster limits), it is hard to argue that they are "student athletes" and not "compensated employees." So why the requirement of being a student, and limits on the duration they can be involved.

That would be great. Pickleball becomes an NCAA sport, and I regain eligibility around age 60 and win a championship.
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MU82

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 25, 2024, 08:31:46 PM
If they are employees they aren't held to academic standards anymore.

Every work place holds employees to some kind of standards.
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WhiteTrash

Quote from: MU82 on May 26, 2024, 10:55:36 AM
Every work place holds employees to some kind of standards.
True. They have to preform on the field or court. Just like every other pro athlete.

The players, coaches, media and politicians want these athletes treated like the professionals they are, so people need to stop treating them like students and respect their wishes. Who cares if they understand economics or biology. Nobody expects Bucks players to quote Shakespere.

The schools and NCAA have been b1tch slapped for trying to deny these people thier place as pro athletes. I think we all need be respectful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: WhiteTrash on May 26, 2024, 02:07:16 PM
True. They have to preform on the field or court. Just like every other pro athlete.

The players, coaches, media and politicians want these athletes treated like the professionals they are, so people need to stop treating them like students and respect their wishes. Who cares if they understand economics or biology. Nobody expects Bucks players to quote Shakespere.

The schools and NCAA have been b1tch slapped for trying to deny these people thier place as pro athletes. I think we all need be respectful.

🙄
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The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: WhiteTrash on May 26, 2024, 02:07:16 PM
True. They have to preform on the field or court. Just like every other pro athlete.

The players, coaches, media and politicians want these athletes treated like the professionals they are, so people need to stop treating them like students and respect their wishes. Who cares if they understand economics or biology. Nobody expects Bucks players to quote Shakespere.

The schools and NCAA have been b1tch slapped for trying to deny these people thier place as pro athletes. I think we all need be respectful.

Man is this stupid.
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Quote from: Billy Hoyle on May 25, 2024, 08:31:46 PM
Some may take your post as sarcasm but I can easily see that happening. A player charged with rape was allowed by a judge to play because not playing would negatively impact his NIL earning potential and NBA prospects. So what if a kid failed every class he took...or had to take classes? He needs to play and make money.

If they are employees they aren't held to academic standards anymore.

Making student-athletes employees allowed to collectively bargain may be problematic but that's a wait and see. MU82 makes a valid point so your extreme example is unlikely to occur. The bolded part is flat out inaccurate. The player was being held to a different standard than all other students at the university and the university was unable to provide a justification for doing so. The judicial opinion actually made sense. (Of course it appears that the university slow walked the ensuing internal investigation but that's a different issue.)

WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 26, 2024, 03:23:24 PM
Man is this stupid.
Why?

The pro-NIL and pro-pay folks have made it abundantly clear that that college associated football and basketball is the only reasonably viable way to become a NFL or NBA player. So you think it is fair to deny an individual of that opportunity because they are not inclined to or lack the ability in succeed in scholastic endeavors?

People don't have to graduate from high school to participate in or be successful in tech, baseball, logistics, arts, etc.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: WhiteTrash on May 26, 2024, 04:01:22 PM
Why?

The pro-NIL and pro-pay folks have made it abundantly clear that that college associated football and basketball is the only reasonably viable way to become a NFL or NBA player. So you think it is fair to deny an individual of that opportunity because they are not inclined to or lack the ability in succeed in scholastic endeavors?

People don't have to graduate from high school to participate in or be successful in tech, baseball, logistics, arts, etc.

Schools are still allowed to enroll and employ who they wish.
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WhiteTrash

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 26, 2024, 04:18:05 PM
Schools are still allowed to enroll and employ who they wish.
I don't think you really meant to write that.

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