St. John's 2024-25 was overrated

[Jay Bee]

The more I dwell on it, they stunk.

18-2 in the Big East would normally be amazing.. and it still kinda is. Nonetheless, a lot of bad teams in the conference this year.

St. John's offense sucked, and it was largely by design. I suppose Aaron Scott is the one who jumps out as having a worse-than-expected 3FG% performance, but this team couldn't shoot for crap and didn't get to the line. The offense was freaking doomed. #88 in offensive efficiency, #68 kenpom Adj OE. Absolutely brutal.

RJ Luis was fun to watch at times, but here's a 29% %Shots guy had a 48.3% eFG% and was not connected with his coach in the tourney.

They started the year ranked #19 in kenpom.. ended at #14. Never reached the top 10. Offense blew it big time.

The highest KP ranked opponent the entire season? Marquette at 29. Give 'em credit for getting the job against solid but not great opponents, but their three highest KP wins were against the Warriors. Yeesh. 

Their highest KP nonconf win was at home against 41 New Mexico. Next highest? At home vs. 65 Kansas St., a sub-.500 team.

As a comparison, Marquette's highest 3 KP wins? At 10 Maryland, home vs. 12 uw-madison, and home vs. 15 Purdue.

Anyway, just wanted to say that for being 31-5 (18-2), when I look at St. John's in hindsight I say, 'what an eff'd up team.. they were never going to do anything nationally this past season'.

That said, would expect them to address the 3FG% shooting (and alter the 3FGA/FGA mix probably) to some extent -- difficult to not improve,  but would think they'll get after that because otherwise the ceiling is too low.

Crown 'em if you want, but for that record, they were BUMS.

[Galway Eagle]

I had St. John's losing in the second round in my bracket pools. I was the only one, couldn't put my finger on it and was too lazy to really investigate but it constantly seemed like a paper tiger with good defense

[tower912]

Too reliant on the mid range.

[Galway Eagle]

Too reliant on the mid range.

And that aircraft carrier

[Uncle Rico]

Too reliant on the mid range.

The offense was definitely their Achilles heel

Pitino failed to adapt to the modern game and then he died

[Jay Bee]

The offense was definitely their Achilles heel

Pitino failed to adapt to the modern game and then he died

Has never been strong when it comes to the deep game.

[withoutbias]

Has never been strong when it comes to the deep game.

Sounds like you're speaking from experience, ai'na?

[WolfganghisKhan]

Did they not win the regular season and BET???

[Jay Bee]

Did they not win the regular season and BET???

Yes, and High Point did the same in the Big South.

[MU82]

Yes, and High Point did the same in the Big South.

Buzz was right about the Big East becoming a low-tier conference!

[MuMark]

Buzz was right about the Big East becoming a low-tier conference!

But he left the BE for the ACC which has become even worse!

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Im also not sure what they're planning for next season. They're collecting talent,  but who is going to run that offense? None of their current projected roster had an assist rate above 10 last season. Assists are a style stat.... but having no one who likes to pass will be interesting to watch.

[Uncle Rico]

Im also not sure what they're planning for next season. They're collecting talent,  but who is going to run that offense? None of their current projected roster had an assist rate above 10 last season. Assists are a style stat.... but having no one who likes to pass will be interesting to watch.

Adapt or die. 

[MU82]

Im also not sure what they're planning for next season. They're collecting talent,  but who is going to run that offense? None of their current projected roster had an assist rate above 10 last season. Assists are a style stat.... but having no one who likes to pass will be interesting to watch.

RJ Luis is available.