Is Tre Norman In The Portal?

[jesmu84]

I hope I'm not being uber-negative, but Sean or Tre getting major minutes at the 1 is going to be severely detrimental to our season

[Johnny B]

I hope I'm not being uber-negative, but Sean or Tre getting major minutes at the 1 is going to be severely detrimental to our season

Why Sean necessarily?

[jesmu84]

Why Sean necessarily?

What has Sean shown on the offensive side of the ball?

[Johnny B]

What has Sean shown on the offensive side of the ball?

Can get by his man off dribble. Create for others. Showed some scoring around rim. He's a wildcard tho obviously in November it will be nearly two years since his injury

[BCHoopster]

Can get by his man off dribble. Create for others. Showed some scoring around rim. He's a wildcard tho obviously in November it will be nearly two years since his injury

Has had 2 years to work on his shot, Shaka believes in development so he should be much better.  If you remember 2 years ago, teams backed off him to let him shoot!

[jesmu84]

Can get by his man off dribble. Create for others. Showed some scoring around rim. He's a wildcard tho obviously in November it will be nearly two years since his injury

I'm getting older, so my memory is probably going.

I don't remember much floor general or drive and kick or scoring with the ball in his hand from Sean. Definitely no outside shooting

[Johnny B]

I'm getting older, so my memory is probably going.

I don't remember much floor general or drive and kick or scoring with the ball in his hand from Sean. Definitely no outside shooting

Maybe I was dreaming

[Elonsmusk]

I'm getting older, so my memory is probably going.

I don't remember much floor general or drive and kick or scoring with the ball in his hand from Sean. Definitely no outside shooting

Sean could almost get in the lane at will, which is a huge asset and metric for a PG/program in general - i.e. paint touches.  His passing after collapsing the defense could have been better.  I think he will be a better 3 point shooter than what we've seen so far too.

[PGsHeroes32]

Proctor choosing a really bad game to miss every single wide open shots he takes

[MuMark]

I'm getting older, so my memory is probably going.

I don't remember much floor general or drive and kick or scoring with the ball in his hand from Sean. Definitely no outside shooting

Listen none of us know what we will get next season but before he got hurt he was making some improvements over his freshman year......not a leap but a step forward in a few areas.

Offensive rating improved from 94 to 101
Assist rate up ....turnover rate a little lower.....
2 point fg pct went from 48 to 54%
His 3 point shooting was still bad overall but was much better in a small sample in conference play.

Don't think it's unreasonable to think he will continue to get better  next season.......but yes....we won't know until he plays.

[PGsHeroes32]

Edit wrong thread

Why are people talking Tre Norman on final 4 saturday

[MuMark]

Edit wrong thread

Why are people talking Tre Norman on final 4 saturday

Because we can multitask?

[PGsHeroes32]

Because we can multitask?

Or we could just talk about relevancy

[MuMark]

Or we could just talk about relevancy

The great thing about message boards is you can actually skip conversations that don't interest you.......its really a neat feature.

[withoutbias]

Forgive him. He can't focus on anything but his wagers, and anything anyone posts about Marquette basketball while a game he has money on is going on is just a distraction.

[GoFastAndWin]

You can really see how much natural talent Owen's has. I do not know about his defense. I thought he was more limited by his offensive mistakes. His dribbling was not tight enough. He more than once got the ball stolen from behind. He also made poor decisions on driving to the basket. I can see him starting at point, if he improves his ball handling and decision making.

As far as the starting lineup, I do not see any player averaging 30 minutes of playing time per game.

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Due to work demands, I missed a ton of MU games this year. Just watching the highlights, one would wonder how Damarius Owens is not an absolute star very soon. Then when you go back and watch the entire game and you see a lot of freshman mistakes and unforced turnovers. Couldn't agree more with your post. Clean up his decision making and ball handling and he could be any kind.

[HutchwasClutch]

Sean could almost get in the lane at will, which is a huge asset and metric for a PG/program in general - i.e. paint touches.  His passing after collapsing the defense could have been better.  I think he will be a better 3 point shooter than what we've seen so far too.

He needs a go to shot, floater or something when he gets in the lane.  Because that to was a big problem for him. Yes his quickness got him in the paint, but then he would be in no man's land without a play. Hopefully he's developed something while rehabbing.   

He wasn't a good shooter, however was clutch.  He hit huge threes in the wins at Illinois and against UCLA in Maui.  He's a tough kid. 

[burger]

Has had 2 years to work on his shot, Shaka believes in development so he should be much better.  If you remember 2 years ago, teams backed off him to let him shoot!

He shot a lower percentage in Year 2 vs Year 1.....Yep....

[Nukem2]

He needs a go to shot, floater or something when he gets in the lane.  Because that to was a big problem for him. Yes his quickness got him in the paint, but then he would be in no man's land without a play. Hopefully he's developed something while rehabbing.   

He wasn't a good shooter, however was clutch.  He hit huge threes in the wins at Illinois and against UCLA in Maui.  He's a tough kid. 

And 3 in a row against Creighton to help seal a win at Fiserv shortly before he was injured.

[MU82]

Sean had become a valuable, clutch part of the rotation before he got hurt. Shaka was playing him at "winning time," and he delivered. His 3 against UCLA was arguably the most important shot of the 2023-24 non-conference season for Marquette.

I agree with others that he needed work on several facets of his offensive game to be our 30 mpg floor leader. Needs to shoot better from 3, needs to develop a floater, needs to make better decisions more consistently, needs to hit his layups, needs to shoot FTs better.

Many of the exact same things were being said (and correctly so) about Tyler Kolek after his sophomore season. Especially about 3-point shooting, a float game and finishing. Some players can improve significantly through hard work and good coaching - TK proved that. Some players, no matter how hard they work, are never gonna improve some parts of their game. Hopefully, Sean falls into the former category.

Kolek had incredible PG instincts. Even when he was turning the ball over a little too often or getting upset with himself for not making shots, his court vision and awareness already were exemplary. What little we've seen of Sean, that hasn't been on display, so we'll see.

From TV appearances and highlight videos, Nigel James seems to possess many of the traits that outstanding PGs need, so I feel pretty good about the position going forward.

[BCHoopster]

MU82, we agree on Nigel, playing against the best kids in high school makes him ready to play right away, the court being longer will help his speed as well.

[Scoop Snoop]

I agree with others that he needed work on several facets of his offensive game to be our 30 mpg floor leader.

Many of the exact same things were being said (and correctly so) about Tyler Kolek after his sophomore season. Especially about 3-point shooting, a float game and finishing. Some players can improve significantly through hard work and good coaching - TK proved that. Some players, no matter how hard they work, are never gonna improve some parts of their game. Hopefully, Sean falls into the former category.

From TV appearances and highlight videos, Nigel James seems to possess many of the traits that outstanding PGs need, so I feel pretty good about the position going forward.

Very fair appraisal.

MU82, we agree on Nigel, playing against the best kids in high school makes him ready to play right away, the court being longer will help his speed as well.

Where did MU82 say that?  Seems to imply that he is ready to be a starter if needed. You didn't actually say that, but...

Clarification please.

[ATL MU Warrior]

Tre can carve out a role as a tough, defensive-minded player that will more than likely come off the bench and guard the other team's best offensive guard/wing. Nothing wrong with that. Mix in a few drives the hoop and grab some rebounds (things he's already shown he can do pretty well) and you have a solid contributor.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

Tre can carve out a role as a tough, defensive-minded player that will more than likely come off the bench and guard the other team's best offensive guard/wing. Nothing wrong with that. Mix in a few drives the hoop and grab some rebounds (things he's already shown he can do pretty well) and you have a solid contributor.

Yep, this is what to hope for and I don't think it's unrealistic.

If he can even hit 30% from 3 that would be huge but seems like he'd have to rework his shot over the summer for that to even be a possibility.

Tre knows what he needs to do to see the floor. Big summer of work coming up for him.

[forgetful]

Sean had become a valuable, clutch part of the rotation before he got hurt. Shaka was playing him at "winning time," and he delivered. His 3 against UCLA was arguably the most important shot of the 2023-24 non-conference season for Marquette.

I agree with others that he needed work on several facets of his offensive game to be our 30 mpg floor leader. Needs to shoot better from 3, needs to develop a floater, needs to make better decisions more consistently, needs to hit his layups, needs to shoot FTs better.

Many of the exact same things were being said (and correctly so) about Tyler Kolek after his sophomore season. Especially about 3-point shooting, a float game and finishing. Some players can improve significantly through hard work and good coaching - TK proved that. Some players, no matter how hard they work, are never gonna improve some parts of their game. Hopefully, Sean falls into the former category.

Kolek had incredible PG instincts. Even when he was turning the ball over a little too often or getting upset with himself for not making shots, his court vision and awareness already were exemplary. What little we've seen of Sean, that hasn't been on display, so we'll see.

From TV appearances and highlight videos, Nigel James seems to possess many of the traits that outstanding PGs need, so I feel pretty good about the position going forward.

It sounds like we need Kolek and Howard to come back and put Sean in a blender.