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Quote from: tower912 on Today at 06:55:31 AMIt will be a transition year, undoubtedtly

Carefully worded  ;)

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

willie warrior

Quote from: We R Final Four on Today at 09:07:51 AMI dont understand why scoopers don't understand this. Because DO didn't average 15 and 8 this year......doesn't mean he can't next year. Freshman watch. Sophs contribute. Juniors and Seniors play.
Hmmm...iot is good to break a rule once in a while, and those rules deserve to be broken.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind.

willie warrior

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on Today at 09:12:37 AMShaka seems way too competitive to take a gargantuan step back and finish below 5th in the conference.  I think he will do what needs to be done to field a competitive team next year.
Web finished 5th in conference this year, so below 5th is not a gargantuan step back.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind.

willie warrior

Quote from: IrwinFletcher on Today at 09:39:26 AMYa, I just wish we would "compete" and "improve" like all these teams listed above.
we did not this year, did we?
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind.

MU82

Quote from: Warrior of Law on Today at 07:56:54 AMaverage players that aren't poised to make a big jump in production.

After the 2021-22 season, what was your opinion of the likelihood that OMax, Oso, TK and Kam would become NBA draft picks?
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jesmu84

Quote from: Small Orange Soda on Today at 12:51:02 PMI think Ross is capable of making a jump, but I don't think Gold is capable of more than a slight step up, and his minutes since February have reflected that. He's more suited to the role he had last year.

I don't see Ross becoming a supreme ball handler, passer or 3 shooter.

He can likely improve his defense and slashing/driving.

Ross+Zaide+Damarius slashing/kicking/driving could be a nightmare for opponents if those 3 demonstrate good decision making

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: jesmu84 on Today at 04:57:26 PMI don't see Ross becoming a supreme ball handler, passer or 3 shooter.

He can likely improve his defense and slashing/driving.

Ross+Zaide+Damarius slashing/kicking/driving could be a nightmare for opponents if those 3 demonstrate good decision making

What do you classify as supreme 3 shooter? And do you think we need them to become supreme shooters?

Chase and Zaide are combine 58 for 156 from 3 at about 37%-38%. That's really good.
VIOLENCE!

jesmu84

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 05:02:08 PMWhat do you classify as supreme 3 shooter? And do you think we need them to become supreme shooters?

Chase and Zaide are combine 58 for 156 from 3 at about 37%-38%. That's really good.

With Kam and Jop gone, they will have much more focus. So, less wide open catch and shoot opportunities, I suspect.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: jesmu84 on Today at 05:04:31 PMWith Kam and Jop gone, they will have much more focus. So, less wide open catch and shoot opportunities, I suspect.

They will have 2 legitimate Point Guards in the mix though. Kam is awesome but Sean and Nigel should also be fantastic at splitting defenses and creating great movement offensively.
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jesmu84

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 05:06:39 PMThey will have 2 legitimate Point Guards in the mix though. Kam is awesome but Sean and Nigel should also be fantastic at splitting defenses and creating great movement offensively.

Just to clarify, are you implying that Sean or Nigel will get the same defensive focus that Kam and Jop got?

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: jesmu84 on Today at 06:16:05 PMJust to clarify, are you implying that Sean or Nigel will get the same defensive focus that Kam and Jop got?

Not Kam. But I'm quite confident in their abilities to create shots for both themselves and others.
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Daniel

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 06:37:22 PMNot Kam. But I'm quite confident in their abilities to create shots for both themselves and others.


 We will have a freshman and a guy who has not played in almost two years competitively.   It will be a challenge .....

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Daniel on Today at 07:24:06 PMWe will have a freshman and a guy who has not played in almost two years competitively.   It will be a challenge .....

Disagree. Speed Kills. They have that. Shaka has said Sean is still the fastest player he's seen. He's healthy and looks great. He will be 20 months removed from surgery next November. And we will always have Freshman. Not exactly sure what that means. We will not be lead by Freshman, but will have them, yes.
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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 07:31:20 PMDisagree. Speed Kills. They have that. Shaka has said Sean is still the fastest player he's seen. He's healthy and looks great. He will be 20 months removed from surgery next November. And we will always have Freshman. Not exactly sure what that means. We will not be lead by Freshman, but will have them, yes.

Excited to see what Sean can bring but he has to yet prove he can finish at the rim consistently, develop a floater, distribute effectively and hit the 3.  He's a major question mark right now. 

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 07:43:10 PMExcited to see what Sean can bring but he has to yet prove he can finish at the rim consistently, develop a floater, distribute effectively and hit the 3.  He's a major question mark right now. 

He is 54 for 106 on 2 points shots in his career ~51%.

That'll play.

But my main point is that we will have 2 legitimate PGs next year so it's not like we will just not be able to generate open looks anymore. We'll be fine. It will all come down to making shots. I'm excited to see this crew grow.
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Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on Today at 07:55:04 PMHe is 54 for 106 on 2 points shots in his career ~51%.

That'll play.

But my main point is that we will have 2 legitimate PGs next year so it's not like we will just not be able to generate open looks anymore. We'll be fine. It will all come down to making shots. I'm excited to see this crew grow.

PG can certainly end up as a strength but to not believe there are major questions at that position right now doesn't make much sense to me. 

jesmu84

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 07:56:31 PMPG can certainly end up as a strength but to not believe there are major questions at that position right now doesn't make much sense to me. 

This is the correct take.

And that'll make things that much harder for 2-5 getting good/easy/open shots

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 07:56:31 PMPG can certainly end up as a strength but to not believe there are major questions at that position right now doesn't make much sense to me. 

Ya, idk, I'm just not remotely concerned about that position at all.
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TheBlackJerryWest

Quote from: Viper on March 14, 2025, 09:19:18 PMPitino has the blue ribbon recipe. They'll be really good for as long as he's their HC. It's good for the BE, in my opinion. HOF coach. NYC. MSG. Media central. I think the conference is going to be very good over the next few years. DePaul might have a good coach, finally. Cooley will continue to improve GTown. McDermott, Hurley, Miller...they'll continue to be stout. Hopefully Shaka's approach around retention and culture pans out. I just feel that to match Pitino and Hurley, force in the paint and shooters are a requirement. MU finished 3-7 this season vs the top 4.

6 of St. John's best players came from the portal. Hurley does the same thing. Unless we want to consider transfers, it will be a struggle. Last night St. John's transfer center had 33 points. Ben Gold had zero. Might have to adjust Shaka's approach to building a roster if we want to win consistently at the highest level.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: TheBlackJerryWest on Today at 08:34:58 PM6 of St. John's best players came from the portal. Hurley does the same thing. Unless we want to consider transfers, it will be a struggle. Last night St. John's transfer center had 33 points. Ben Gold had zero. Might have to adjust Shaka's approach to building a roster if we want to win consistently at the highest level.

That's interesting considering Shaka has won consistently through his first 4 seasons. 

The Sultan

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on Today at 08:41:43 PMThat's interesting considering Shaka has won consistently through his first 4 seasons. 

Herm's just being Herm.
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Quote from: The Sultan on Today at 08:50:41 PMHerm's just being Herm.

Had no idea Herm had risen from the dead yet again but I guess Easter isn't too far away. 

Class71

Quote from: willie warrior on Today at 09:11:03 AMYou are absolutely correct. BEast keeps improving most of their teams, but which direction is MU going after this year. St. Johns getting way better is good for Beast, but Rick is still a sleazeball. When it comes to competing in BEeast, it feels like MU is fading after this years disappointment, and no bangers coming in. Questions  l;ike these need to be considered.

I think Rick has worked hard and has clearly excelled at what you call sleazeball. A particularly disgusting sleazeball-ism play was a knee to Stevie's gut in the second half or how about numerous hooks, pushes and blocks that were never called. I have to say the one I liked the best is when Gold was hooked and he just stepped away and Zuby fell to the ground as he tripped over himself. Fortunately neither was hurt. Unfortunately violence has become a new art form for Ricky and some others. Is this the approach the BEast is using to increase viewership at the risk of serious player injuries? I hope not.
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Quote from: Class71 on Today at 09:17:36 PMI think Rick has worked hard and has clearly excelled at what you call sleazeball. A particularly disgusting sleazeball-ism play was a knee to Stevie's gut in the second half or how about numerous hooks, pushes and blocks that were never called. I have to say the one I liked the best is when Gold was hooked and he just stepped away and Zuby fell to the ground as he tripped over himself. Fortunately neither was hurt. Unfortunately violence has become a new art form for Ricky and some others. Is this the approach the BEast is using to increase viewership at the risk of serious player injuries? I hope not.

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