2025-26 NFL Thread

[tower912]

Lions

I think Stafford is a better QB than Goff.  However, like Shaka, I think the power structure at Detroit wants it to be about culture.  Bringing Stafford back and dumping Goff would be too expensive, too disruptive, and hypocritical. (From their perspective)

[Pakuni]

I think Stafford is a better QB than Goff.  However, like Shaka, I think the power structure at Detroit wants it to be about culture.  Bringing Stafford back and dumping Goff would be too expensive, too disruptive, and hypocritical. (From their perspective)

Depending on what they think of Goff's ability to lead them to a Super Bowl, it could be a nice bit of business for the Lions.
Stafford's cap hit the next two seasons is $49.7 million and $53.7 million. The actual cash payout is $27 million and $31 million.
For Goff, the numbers are $32.6 million next year, but then $69.6 million in 2026. Cash figures are $18 million and $55 million.
So, there's a little cap savings with Goff for 2025, but then he costs quite a bit more in 2026 and is more expensive in terms of actual dollars over the two seasons.

But then, Stafford is an free agent in 2027 (if he's even still playing), whereas the Lions are on the hook for another year of Goff, with a $54.6 million cap hit and $40 million cash. Those probably aren't huge numbers in 2027, but they're a drag if Goff proves unable to get the team to a Super Bowl the next two seasons.


I don't see why the Rams would want Goff in return. If they're really going to move on from Stafford, it's to move on from his contract. And given the dead cap they'd need to absorb by trading him (nearly $50 million), I can't imagine they'd want another big contract in return.

[GB Warrior]

Guys I was kidding.

I think this is the Rams way to do two things at once - find fair market value is for Stafford at this stage in his career, and find trade value if FMV outpaces their willingness to pay.

I'd put the chances of him being traded at about 25%

[Shaka Shart]

Guys I was kidding.

I think this is the Rams way to do two things at once - find fair market value is for Stafford at this stage in his career, and find trade value if FMV outpaces their willingness to pay.

I'd put the chances of him being traded at about 25%

Use teal

[MU82]

Use teal

Teal blows.

[Jockey]

But then, Stafford is an free agent in 2027 (if he's even still playing), whereas the Lions are on the hook for another year of Goff, with a $54.6 million cap hit and $40 million cash. Those probably aren't huge numbers in 2027, but they're a drag if Goff proves unable to get the team to a Super Bowl the next two seasons.

By your reasoning, the Ravens should dump Lamar cuz he can't get them to a Super Bowl (and probably never will). It seems awful cavalier to suggest dumping Goff who is still one of the better QBs in the League when you look at the QB wilderness that so many teams are stuck in. His money is not unreasonable for a guy in his prime who gets the playoffs almost every year and has won a SB.

As a Packers fan, I would love to see the Lions dump Goff, but it ain't happenin'.

[Pakuni]

By your reasoning, the Ravens should dump Lamar cuz he can't get them to a Super Bowl (and probably never will). It seems awful cavalier to suggest dumping Goff who is still one of the better QBs in the League when you look at the QB wilderness that so many teams are stuck in. His money is not unreasonable for a guy in his prime who gets the playoffs almost every year and has won a SB.

As a Packers fan, I would love to see the Lions dump Goff, but it ain't happenin'.

Which Super Bowl did Goff win?

You're just making stuff up here.
Notwithstanding your insane analogizing of Lamar to Jared Goff - one drives his team's success, the other is more of a passenger - I didn't write that the Lions should "dump Goff." I wrote that if the Lions believe Goff can't get them a Super Bowl, it makes sense to look elsewhere. Because they otherwise have a Super Bowl roster which eventually will get wasted if they don't believe Goff can be that guy.
These are the tough decisions teams need to make to win championships.

[The Sultan]

Jockey just wants to remind everyone of his absurd Lamar takes every so often.

[Jockey]

Which Super Bowl did Goff win?

You're just making stuff up here.
Notwithstanding your insane analogizing of Lamar to Jared Goff - one drives his team's success, the other is more of a passenger - I didn't write that the Lions should "dump Goff." I wrote that if the Lions believe Goff can't get them a Super Bowl, it makes sense to look elsewhere. Because they otherwise have a Super Bowl roster which eventually will get wasted if they don't believe Goff can be that guy.
These are the tough decisions teams need to make to win championships.

 I wrote it wrong - meant to say he has been to a SB.

Lamar may have the best roster round him and can't get to one. He is another iteration of ARod - an MVP-caliber QB who for 10 Years & numerous MVPs wasn't able to get to a SB. Once Lamar gets to an actual SB, I'll change my opinion on his degree of greatness.

[GB Warrior]

I just think Goff needs a bit more roster construction to get over the hump than other good QBs. Needs one more WR. Can you imagine him and Lamar on the same team?

[Jockey]

I just think Goff needs a bit more roster construction to get over the hump than other good QBs. Needs one more WR. Can you imagine him and Lamar on the same team?

That's reasonable, but he got to a SB with worse RB and TE and comparable WRs than what he has in Detroit.

[Pakuni]

I wrote it wrong - meant to say he has been to a SB.

Lamar may have the best roster round him and can't get to one. He is another iteration of ARod - an MVP-caliber QB who for 10 Years & numerous MVPs wasn't able to get to a SB. Once Lamar gets to an actual SB, I'll change my opinion on his degree of greatness.

No, Lamar does not have the best roster around him, especially at the skill positions.
He's never had a Pro Bowl receiver and he's had just one receiver who's gone over 1,000 yards (and that was 1,059 in 17 games this year).
He's been his team's leading rusher every year except 2024.
Especially on offense, no one is taking the Ravens roster ahead of Detroit's.

The whole "never been to a Super Bowl" argument is silly.
Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson and Justin Herbert have never been to a Super Bowl.
Jimmy Garappolo, Brock Purdy and Jared Goff have.
Which group are you taking?

[forgetful]

Use teal

Teal is discriminatory against color blind MU fans.

[Shaka Shart]

Me suggesting use teal should have been in teal

[Pakuni]

If you can't beat it, ban it?

https://x.com/DMRussini/status/1894109546714456120

[WhiteTrash]

If you can't beat it, ban it?

https://x.com/DMRussini/status/1894109546714456120

The Chicago Bears submitted a plan to the NFL to ban annual ass kickings by the Packers.

[forgetful]

I think a team should hire a very small player, and catapult them downfield each play. Might be able to get 3 yards per play and be unstoppable.

In all seriousness, the Tush-Push should be made illegal again (would have been illegal pre-2006).

[BM1090]

I think a team should hire a very small player, and catapult them downfield each play. Might be able to get 3 yards per play and be unstoppable.

In all seriousness, the Tush-Push should be made illegal again (would have been illegal pre-2006).

And Muggsy would finally get the respect he deserves

[Shaka Shart]

And Muggsy would finally get the respect he deserves

Peyton manning like calling out "Omaha" but it's "Manatee"

[The Sultan]

If you can't beat it, ban it?

https://x.com/DMRussini/status/1894109546714456120

One thing I heard is that a number of teams want to ban this but that Mark Murphy and the Packers agreed to submit it because it's his last meeting.

[CreightonWarrior]

Most likely he did it to suck up to the chiefs to Taylor swift plays at lambeau on her next tour.

[Pakuni]

The NFLPA's annual report card is out.
You'll never guess who the worst owners are.
Kidding, you all know already.

https://nflpa.com/report-cards/2025

[WhiteTrash]

The NFLPA's annual report card is out.
You'll never guess who the worst owners are.
Kidding, you all know already.

https://nflpa.com/report-cards/2025

New England and Pitt are "D"s? I did not expect that. The media tells us they are the best.

[jesmu84]

Miami very good?

[Pakuni]

https://x.com/Schultz_Report/status/1894831950478877046