Entertaining loss

[MuggsyB]

What do you make of Ashworth's Steph Curry sleep gesture after his late 3?

[muwarrior69]

Lost a conference road game against a really good team.
Entertained by the return of Kam, Royce and Zaide, attacking the boards.

Looking forward to 6 of the next 7 games.

Which game are you not looking forward to?

[MUfan12]

What do you make of Ashworth's Steph Curry sleep gesture after his late 3?

Who gives a crap?

[Pakuni]

Since neither one of you can manage your emotions when things go bad, maybe you should find something else to do with your time then. Why watch sports if it doesn't entertain you?

I enjoyed their comeback. Too bad they couldn't finish it. It happens.

Happens a lot, it seems.
Iowa State. Xavier. UConn. St. John's. Creighton.
Don't play yourself into double-digit deficits and you won't need enjoyable comebacks that fall short.
And if we're being honest, we're pretty fortunate DePaul isn't on that list above.

[Shaka Shart]

What do you make of Ashworth's Steph Curry sleep gesture after his late 3?

Racist

[Afroman]

Gold got in some good cardio again, I see.

[wadesworld]

What do you make of Ashworth's Steph Curry sleep gesture after his late 3?

It was one of two things. 1) "I'm a senior citizen and it's past my bedtime. I need sleep." Or 2) I need to put my child to bed when I get home.

[willie warrior]

Gold got in some good cardio again, I see.

Gold has been and still is severely overrated by several on this board.

[willie warrior]

BJW, all signs are that MU players, particularly upperclassmen who have been productive, are paid via NIL.  There are no official numbers.

MU has not taken a DI transfer in this new NIL era.  Shaka did take transfers to fill out the roster his first season.  TKo, OMax, Kur, Morsels.  But nothing the last three seasons, choosing to focus on relationships and growth. 

Going forward, MU has a 4 player recruiting class, filling 14 out of 15 scholarships for next season.  Based on Shaka's statements, he looks at transfer candidates.  They have to buy into the culture, be a clear upgrade, and not be looking for a bag drop.

And maybe, just maybe,Shaka is the one dropping the bag when he fails to use this resource.

[Billy Hoyle]

What do you make of Ashworth's Steph Curry sleep gesture after his late 3?

Meh. He made the shot to seal it. Don't our guys, like Jop, make celebratory motions after making shots?

[willie warrior]

Team is in a funk for sure, maybe a bit dinged up. Teams are roughing them up offensively and making the zebras call it (they aren't, is this due to their defensive style on the other end? I dunno, it's a theory Shaka lobbies for less, not more perhaps and that's the trade off) and a bench that's a bit light on soph development due to various circumstances.

I think there's some legitimacy to the fact that they were better than other teams earlier due to continuity, sure. But also the Big East is better than the non-conference suggested too. I'm worried but good god people need to get a grip. They had a one possession game at the end of the game in one of the best home court advantages in the country and a team on a scorching hot streak.

I really like what I'm seeing from Royce and am hoping Ben's struggles get sorted out and they have two offensive threats at center going into the BET.

Again, this team is 18-6, UConn lost 5/6 games in Big East play when they won the first of the two consecutive titles. Not saying Marquette will do that but perspective would be nice too.

So you are saying we still have a chance?

[TheBlackJerryWest]

For sure. Big sample size for St John's.

The sample size isn't St. John's, it's Rick Pitino's Hall of Fame career. Which is among the largest and most successful sample sizes in the history of college basketball.

[The Sultan]

The sample size isn't St. John's, it's Rick Pitino's Hall of Fame career. Which is among the largest and most successful sample sizes in the history of college basketball.

Thanks Herm.

[StillWarriors]

10. Ben Gold has scored a grand total of 2 points over the last 4 games. I don't care how good his defense is. Cannot have that kind of offensive production from a starter.

He got one shot today. We don't move the ball all that much. Although we had a few nice possessions today where it moved via passes, that is far too infrequent these days. The dribble drive, back it out game is far from the beautiful brand of offense we played the last couple years. Kolek's ability to read defenses and make the right pass was rare, and we certainly miss that. I know I miss watching the read and react O that led to so many good looks.

[Viper]

Sports do entertain me?

Losing doesn't entertain me

What a dumb comment.

100%

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

Nothing about Stevie?- I love the guy and everything he does - but him missing 7 wide open threes in a row killed us and allowed them to play 5 on 4 on D when he was in.

You can see he's overthinking "oh no, I'm open again, geez I'd better shoot, maybe it will go in" rather than "I can't believe they left me open, I'm gonna stuff this in the hoop"

I love Stevie. But he's gotta confidently shoot when he's open. He was very hesitant today and it showed.

Also, really concerned about Gold. He's been brutal for awhile. We need way more form him in both ends. He's has 2 rebounds and 2 points the past four games. Woof. 5-2 probably the ceiling from here on out, but would just let to see the boys clicking again. Been awhile. 

[tower912]

In his post game presser, Shaka alluded to the fact that everybody is banged up. 

[Vander Blue Man Group]

The sample size isn't St. John's, it's Rick Pitino's Hall of Fame career. Which is among the largest and most successful sample sizes in the history of college basketball.

LOL

[Uncle Rico]

In his post game presser, Shaka alluded to the fact that everybody is banged up. 

What a crybaby. 

[rocky_warrior]

What a crybaby. 

Poor us.  It's a shame every other team is 110% healthy.

[Vander Blue Man Group]

He got one shot today. We don't move the ball all that much. Although we had a few nice possessions today where it moved via passes, that is far too infrequent these days. The dribble drive, back it out game is far from the beautiful brand of offense we played the last couple years. Kolek's ability to read defenses and make the right pass was rare, and we certainly miss that. I know I miss watching the read and react O that led to so many good looks.

We miss Oso more. Not saying Kam is at the same level as Tyler as a distributor but he's been excellent. We don't have anyone to replicate what Oso brought as a big that was an elite passer.

Not blaming anyone - that's a rare skillset to have to replace.

[MUfan12]

We miss Oso more. Not saying Kam is at the same level as Tyler as a distributor but he's been excellent. We don't have anyone to replicate what Oso brought as a big that was an elite passer.

Not blaming anyone - that's a rare skillset to have to replace.

100% accurate. How nice would it be to have that 4-8 points off of Oso pocket passes?

[GoldenEagles03]

100% accurate. How nice would it be to have that 4-8 points off of Oso pocket passes?

Oso is fantastic. A Marquette great.

I also think that Marquette could replace 13 points and 7 rebounds very easily every year from the transfer portal if they really wanted. Shaka trusted Ben's development to fill the gap. At times it's been good, others very bad. Need more from the center position for sure.

[Zog from Margo]

For this offense to work, you need more than one guy who can create. Kam is great at the pass off of players who collapse but he doesn't read the floor like Kolek. He never will. PGs are born and not made.  Gold can't create for others like Oso. Last year, MU had three guys who could create offense. This year they have one and some promising players on the bench. Chase is getting there. We'll see where things go, but Shaka has done yeoman's work. 

[MuggsyB]

We have 2 seniors and a junior with the ball in their hands besides Kam.  It's not about them being master creators, it's about making the right decision and basketball play.  It's about understanding where the help is coming, spacing, playing without hesitation, and moving the damn ball.  Jop and Mitchell in particular hold the ball too long once help comes.  Ball stopping destroys offensive flow, and these are experienced players that know better.  And the thing is while we generally do a solid job taking care of the basketball, a forced shot or a bad shot is essentially a turnover.  Seeing the floor and moving the rock is a big problem right now.  And every guy on the floor is more than capable of making quicker and better decisions.  We simply have to create better looks vs a set defense.  There is no reason why we are struggling to this degree imo.