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MuggsyB

Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 16, 2024, 03:24:43 PMBig East blows manatees.

3-bid league.  UConn, Quette, Johnnie's

Maybe sneak in: Dence, X, Creighton, Nova

GTFOH: Butler, DePaul, GTown

New DePaul:  Seton Hall

Quette goes 15-5, loses one weirdo game and Willie calls multiple players fecal or genitalia related names in that game thread

Why are you attacking our vegetarian marine mammals?  Totally uncalled for. 

Newsdreams

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 17, 2024, 09:06:13 PMWhy are you attacking our vegetarian marine mammals?  Totally uncalled for. 
They're stupid and only good for smoking
Goal is National Championship

MuggsyB

Quote from: Newsdreams on December 17, 2024, 09:15:38 PMThey're stupid and only good for smoking

They are not stupid.  This is a misnomer and highly prejudical.  And they're coming back strong. 

Newsdreams

Quote from: MuggsyB on December 17, 2024, 09:27:26 PMThey are not stupid.  This is a misnomer and highly prejudical.  And they're coming back strong. 
They're dumb as a rock
Goal is National Championship

FairWeatherEagle

Like everyone else, MU and UC are class of conf.

But it seems like a lot of inconsistency even at the top. X, Creighton...losing when I didn't expect it. DePaul should be close to 500 and STJ looked good on TV. That big they have is tough.

I just hope we get respect as a conference. I don't mind if a couple teams tank like SH and <fill in blank>. But we need a third or fourth team to look good.

Give everyone else 4 losses to start (2 each for playing MU and UC) then see who rises.

MU goes 18-2. 🥴

wisblue

I generally agree with the ranking of the teams, though I would include SJU with MU and UConn.

I note that Pomeroy's projection for MU is 15-5 in the conference and that seems about right to me. There are going to be a lot of competitive road games in which MU might be favored , and it's likely that MU will lose some of them.Between those and the games against the conference's better teams (UConn, SJU, and Creighton) it isn't hard to see 5 losses. MU has not looked good in its road games so far, especially in crunch time.

Hopefully MU can avoid having a big clunker at home like last year's Butler game.


Newsdreams

Quote from: wisblue on December 18, 2024, 02:19:38 PMI generally agree with the ranking of the teams, though I would include SJU with MU and UConn.

I note that Pomeroy's projection for MU is 15-5 in the conference and that seems about right to me. There are going to be a lot of competitive road games in which MU might be favored , and it's likely that MU will lose some of them.Between those and the games against the conference's better teams (UConn, SJU, and Creighton) it isn't hard to see 5 losses. MU has not looked good in its road games so far, especially in crunch time.

Hopefully MU can avoid having a big clunker at home like last year's Butler game.


COLE
Goal is National Championship

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on December 17, 2024, 11:43:04 PMLike everyone else, MU and UC are class of conf.

But it seems like a lot of inconsistency even at the top. X, Creighton...losing when I didn't expect it. DePaul should be close to 500 and STJ looked good on TV. That big they have is tough.

I just hope we get respect as a conference. I don't mind if a couple teams tank like SH and <fill in blank>. But we need a third or fourth team to look good.

Give everyone else 4 losses to start (2 each for playing MU and UC) then see who rises.

MU goes 18-2. 🥴

7 conference wins max for DePaul, and I'd take the under if I were betting.
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wisblue

I was looking at this thread and was wondering if anyone's thoughts have been changed by the first 40% of the conference schedule as we move into the part of the schedule that includes most of the head to head games between the league's top contenders.

A couple of my opinions and observations:

1. It looks now like it could be a very tight four team race between MU, UConn, SJU, and Creighton.

2. Creighton seems to have found its footing after a rocky start to its OOC and conference season. They have one leg up by going 2-1 against the other 3 contenders, with 2 of the remaining 3 at home.

3. The 6 head to head games involving MU, UConn, and SJU figure to be dogfights. MU and UConn have not played like they are head and shoulders above the rest of the conference. McNeely's return could be a wild card.

4. Xavier and Villanova have shown that they can compete with the top teams, especially Xavier with Freemantle back and their fifth year players coming together. While it's hard to see either of them making a run at the title they are likely going to hang some more losses on the top 4.

5. Georgetown and Butler, despite its record, have shown that they are not easy outs.

6. Unless Hopkins makes a comeback, any of the top teams losing to any of Providence, DePaul, or Seton Hall will be losing a game to the field. MU was lucky to avoid that fate.

7. I think 16-4 will get a team no worse than a tie for the league title. Unless McNeely does it for UConn, I don't see any of the top 4 clearly above the others.

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: wisblue on Today at 01:37:28 PMI was looking at this thread and was wondering if anyone's thoughts have been changed by the first 40% of the conference schedule as we move into the part of the schedule that includes most of the head to head games between the league's top contenders.

A couple of my opinions and observations:

1. It looks now like it could be a very tight four team race between MU, UConn, SJU, and Creighton.

2. Creighton seems to have found its footing after a rocky start to its OOC and conference season. They have one leg up by going 2-1 against the other 3 contenders, with 2 of the remaining 3 at home.

3. The 6 head to head games involving MU, UConn, and SJU figure to be dogfights. MU and UConn have not played like they are head and shoulders above the rest of the conference. McNeely's return could be a wild card.

4. Xavier and Villanova have shown that they can compete with the top teams, especially Xavier with Freemantle back and their fifth year players coming together. While it's hard to see either of them making a run at the title they are likely going to hang some more losses on the top 4.

5. Georgetown and Butler, despite its record, have shown that they are not easy outs.

6. Unless Hopkins makes a comeback, any of the top teams losing to any of Providence, DePaul, or Seton Hall will be losing a game to the field. MU was lucky to avoid that fate.

7. I think 16-4 will get a team no worse than a tie for the league title. Unless McNeely does it for UConn, I don't see any of the top 4 clearly above the others.


I agree with your observations.  Should be a fun several weeks ahead.  If MU does survive and manages to win the league, they should be primed for a good run in the tournament.


Uncle Rico

If Marquette wins 10 league games this yeah, Shaka should be BECOY
Maybe. But will Creighton and St. John's?
They look like the class of league right now. Have not seen Johnnies play, but Creighton looks awesome.

Newsdreams

Quote from: Uncle Rico on Today at 05:57:22 PMIf Marquette wins 10 league games this yeah, Shaka should be BECOY
Extend contract until Wardle is available
Goal is National Championship

MU82

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BM1090

Quote from: wisblue on Today at 01:37:28 PMI was looking at this thread and was wondering if anyone's thoughts have been changed by the first 40% of the conference schedule as we move into the part of the schedule that includes most of the head to head games between the league's top contenders.

A couple of my opinions and observations:

1. It looks now like it could be a very tight four team race between MU, UConn, SJU, and Creighton.

2. Creighton seems to have found its footing after a rocky start to its OOC and conference season. They have one leg up by going 2-1 against the other 3 contenders, with 2 of the remaining 3 at home.

3. The 6 head to head games involving MU, UConn, and SJU figure to be dogfights. MU and UConn have not played like they are head and shoulders above the rest of the conference. McNeely's return could be a wild card.

4. Xavier and Villanova have shown that they can compete with the top teams, especially Xavier with Freemantle back and their fifth year players coming together. While it's hard to see either of them making a run at the title they are likely going to hang some more losses on the top 4.

5. Georgetown and Butler, despite its record, have shown that they are not easy outs.

6. Unless Hopkins makes a comeback, any of the top teams losing to any of Providence, DePaul, or Seton Hall will be losing a game to the field. MU was lucky to avoid that fate.

7. I think 16-4 will get a team no worse than a tie for the league title. Unless McNeely does it for UConn, I don't see any of the top 4 clearly above the others.


Creighton looks a lot better than I thought they would. McDermott has turned into a really good coach. And he wasn't a slouch before. But I think that they are 4th. Just not sure they have the firepower to avoid dropping a few more games than the other three. But I hope I'm wrong.

Agree with all your other points. MU isn't going to lose at home to the bottom three, and I think MU gets the return games against Georgetown and Butler. Shaka tends to have MU prepared the second time around.

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