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Herman Cain

My guess is Shaka uses the portal this coming off season. Needs to find players who can consistently make 3 pointers.
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94Warrior

Quote from: Herman Cain on December 26, 2024, 10:35:29 PMMy guess is Shaka uses the portal this coming off season. Needs to find players who can consistently make 3 pointers.
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THRILLHO

Quote from: Herman Cain on December 26, 2024, 10:35:29 PMMy guess is Shaka uses the portal this coming off season. Needs to find players who can consistently make 3 pointers.
It's easy to say who to go get, but where does the scholarship (and PT) come from?

Elonsmusk

Quote from: brewcity77 on December 25, 2024, 06:43:04 PMWe've been in the top-10 three years running using a development model. Many thought we would fall off without Justin and Morsell, same when Kolek and Oso left, yet here we are again.

That's because when the first class left, the staff saw not what was gone, but what was back and developed the roster accordingly. And when TK & Oso left, they had Kam & Ben in place and trusted them to carry on. So maybe when Kam, Jop, and Stevie go, they have an idea of what they are bringing back and how they'll develop them to reach another ceiling that (once again) could be higher than the one before.

Like the optimism here, yet there isn't one guy on the roster now who will be a First Team All-American next year at the PG position, which is the most important position on the floor.  TKO and Kam are two of the best ever to come through the doors at MU.

If next year's team somehow reaches a higher ceiling than this year's team, or last year's team, Shaka's contract should immediately be doubled in compensation.  A little hyperbole there, but if he can sustain a Top 10 caliber team after losing Kam, that will effectively move him into Top 5 coaches in the game in my view.

That aside I think we will be good next year, but perhaps a "down" year in the range of Top 20-30.  So, I sure hope this year's team can breakthrough and chase a Final Four/Championship.

We R Final Four

Same thing was said for this year after losing two NBA players.
Down year......should be in top 25 for most of year....
Been top ten most of the year.

Viper

Quote from: THRILLHO on December 26, 2024, 11:28:39 PMIt's easy to say who to go get, but where does the scholarship (and PT) come from?
one spot opens due to a transfer out.

brewcity77

Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 08:07:40 AMLike the optimism here, yet there isn't one guy on the roster now who will be a First Team All-American next year at the PG position, which is the most important position on the floor.  TKO and Kam are two of the best ever to come through the doors at MU.

No one had Tyler as a two time All-American in 2022 and there were plenty of doubts about the position last year, certainly before the Sean and TK injuries that forced Kam into the role for 6 games.

Maybe Chase takes a Kam turn. Maybe a healthy Norman breaks out. Maybe Sean returns even better. Maybe Owens takes over the PG role that he's already played with the second unit in practice. Maybe James is way more instant impact than his ranking indicates.

Maybe none of that happens and we fall off, but after 4 years this staff has done a pretty good job of proving preseason critics wrong, and a smart gambler would have made a lot more money betting on overachievement than disappointment.
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Scoop Snoop

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Quote from: Herman Cain on December 26, 2024, 10:35:29 PMMy guess is Shaka uses the portal this coming off season. Needs to find players who can consistently make 3 pointers.

My guess is that Miletic portals from HS to Marquette.

Shaka has made his views very clear about the portal. Why do scoopers like you and others continue to second guess him?
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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#UnleashSean

Quote from: Elonsmusk on Today at 08:07:40 AMLike the optimism here, yet there isn't one guy on the roster now who will be a First Team All-American next year at the PG position, which is the most important position on the floor.  TKO and Kam are two of the best ever to come through the doors at MU.

If next year's team somehow reaches a higher ceiling than this year's team, or last year's team, Shaka's contract should immediately be doubled in compensation.  A little hyperbole there, but if he can sustain a Top 10 caliber team after losing Kam, that will effectively move him into Top 5 coaches in the game in my view.

That aside I think we will be good next year, but perhaps a "down" year in the range of Top 20-30.  So, I sure hope this year's team can breakthrough and chase a Final Four/Championship.

Literally every year of Shaka as coach, a general concensus was "worse then last year" and every year scoop has been wrong.

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Uncle Rico

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on Today at 09:30:02 AMMy guess is that Miletic portals from HS to Marquette.

Shaka has made his views very clear about the portal. Why do scoopers like you and others continue to second guess him?


Because Fans Are Idiots
Kam and the Warriors blowing it just like at Dayton. Bet your heads out of your asses.

Shooter McGavin

Maybe Chase takes a Kam turn. Maybe a healthy Norman breaks out. Maybe Sean returns even better. Maybe Owens takes over the PG role that he's already played with the second unit in practice. Maybe James is way more instant impact than his ranking indicates.

Brew,

I hope you and others are right on Tre (if injury has held him back this is likely) And I like this take on Chase, Owens, Sean and James.  It's not totally out of the question that a freshman will have an impact like another James once did.  Shaka knows what he is doing. Taking a brief step back is inevitable at some point but likely a step back is still a tournament bid regardless.  I'm enjoying the ride.

Tha Hound

I have a ton of confidence in Shaka and his staff to develop players. He has earned that. That said, I think its fair to look at the roster next year and have some concerns. Will be interesting to see how things play out.

Here's to another year of success.

GoldenEagles03

Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 09:20:55 AMNo one had Tyler as a two time All-American in 2022 and there were plenty of doubts about the position last year, certainly before the Sean and TK injuries that forced Kam into the role for 6 games.

Maybe Chase takes a Kam turn. Maybe a healthy Norman breaks out. Maybe Sean returns even better. Maybe Owens takes over the PG role that he's already played with the second unit in practice. Maybe James is way more instant impact than his ranking indicates.

Maybe none of that happens and we fall off, but after 4 years this staff has done a pretty good job of proving preseason critics wrong, and a smart gambler would have made a lot more money betting on overachievement than disappointment.

This team just has so much talent and a culture that cannot be measured. I expect them to fight for a tournament bid every single season.

Chase and Damarius are NBA talents. All of their guards will defend at a very high level. They will have 2 true PGs in Sean and Nigel. They will have a real 7 footer that they haven't had in a very very long time in Clark. Miletic and Phillips are elite shooters.

Just way too much to work with. Sorry that not everyone can see it.
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Big Papi

As a fan, I will worry about next year after we play our last game of the season.

I think Shaka will do what is best for the program.  If he doesn't think he has a capable point guard, he will go out and get one.  If he does, he won't.  I will say with 100% certainty that Shaka will at some point in time, go into the portal and get someone. When?  Who knows but it will happen.

GoldenEagles03

#140
PG:
5'11" - Sean Jones
6'0" - Nigel James

Wings:
6'5" - Chase Ross
6'5" - Zaide Lowery
6'4" - Tre Norman
6'4" - Adrien Stevens

Wings/Forwards:
6'8" - Damarius Owens
6'6" - Ian Miletic
6'6" - Michael Phillips

Forwards:
6'11" - Ben Gold
6'9" - Al Amadou
6'8" - Royce Parham

C:
7'0" - Josh Clark
6'9" - Caedin Hamilton

A roster with a deep and versatile skillset with room to develop. Another great Marquette roster. Enjoy 2024-2025 for now!!!
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JTJ3

Adrien Stevens can play some PG too.  Plays it both for his AAU team and his HS team.  He may end up being a better fit off the ball at Marquette, but I would include him when discussing guys who could potentially help with some ball handling duties next year as well.

We R Final Four

Quote from: Big Papi on Today at 10:50:11 AMAs a fan, I will worry about next year after we play our last game of the season.

I think Shaka will do what is best for the program.  If he doesn't think he has a capable point guard, he will go out and get one.  If he does, he won't.  I will say with 100% certainty that Shaka will at some point in time, go into the portal and get someone. When?  Who knows but it will happen.
If Shaka ever decides to go get a transfer(which barring season ending injuries I find slim to none) I believe it will be a recruit that Shaka followed and built a relationship with whom he tried to get the first time around. He won't be looking at the top ten list of available transfers like some wish to believe.

DoggyDaddy

I like the patient progress plan for Sean. He'll know, then we'll know. In the meantime, Tre is getting valuable minutes: his improvement in defense, ball handling and putbacks is noticeable.

Scoop Snoop

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Quote from: We R Final Four on Today at 11:11:24 AMIf Shaka ever decides to go get a transfer(which barring season ending injuries I find slim to none) I believe it will be a recruit that Shaka followed and built a relationship with whom he tried to get the first time around. He won't be looking at the top ten list of available transfers like some wish to believe.

This is pretty close to what I think also. To be clear, I do not think Shaka going to the portal is something that will simply never, ever happen. But I believe that IF he does, it will be along the lines of what you wrote.

Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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tower912

I look at DO, Parham, Gold, and Chase as 4 likely starters.  With the glimpses we have seen and another offseason of work, if ever there was a starting line up that only required a caretaker point guard, that one is it.  Get them into their first action and jump on the merry go round.

Between Sean, Tre, and Nigel, no worries.
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MUMountin

Re: Sean's decision--what's the opportunity cost for another year in school versus going overseas to play with NIL on the table?  Is playing internationally more or less lucrative than what he would make for an extra year at Marquette?  For guys that don't really have a path to the NBA, is it just as good to be playing/starring at your college for a year longer?  I have to imagine that is the case and why you see guys like Eric Dixon, etc., sticking around for 5th/6th years. 

If that is the case AND Sean is struggling mentally to feel like he can play at his full-speed, it makes a lot more sense for him to keep the redshirt on for this season.  And, while the team could use him, it is not like they are hovering at .500 right now without him.   

brewcity77

Quote from: Scoop Snoop on Today at 11:36:21 AMThis is pretty close to what I think also. To be clear, I do not think Shaka going to the portal is something that will simply never, ever happen. But I believe that IF he does, it will be along the lines of what you wrote.

After listening to Shaka's recent interview where he talked about one of his favorite players he ever recruited but didn't land entering the portal, and saying they still didn't pursue them because they didn't want to mess with the roster, I wonder if they might avoid the portal altogether.
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We R Final Four

Quote from: MUMountin on Today at 12:27:50 PMRe: Sean's decision--what's the opportunity cost for another year in school versus going overseas to play with NIL on the table?  Is playing internationally more or less lucrative than what he would make for an extra year at Marquette?  For guys that don't really have a path to the NBA, is it just as good to be playing/starring at your college for a year longer?  I have to imagine that is the case and why you see guys like Eric Dixon, etc., sticking around for 5th/6th years. 

If that is the case AND Sean is struggling mentally to feel like he can play at his full-speed, it makes a lot more sense for him to keep the redshirt on for this season.  And, while the team could use him, it is not like they are hovering at .500 right now without him. 
Perhaps more may go into his decision, his family's decision and the staff's decision in addition to money. I don't know Sean.

MUfan12

Quote from: brewcity77 on Today at 01:12:35 PMAfter listening to Shaka's recent interview where he talked about one of his favorite players he ever recruited but didn't land entering the portal, and saying they still didn't pursue them because they didn't want to mess with the roster, I wonder if they might avoid the portal altogether.

I think Shaka was being charitable. If it's who I'm thinking of, he'd come in at a position of depth with no perimeter game to speak of.

Now if a former legacy recruit hits the portal I'd be interested to see if there would be interest.

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