Sean coming soon?

[THRILLHO]

Which Scoopers have claimed Shaka is completely lost? Or doesn't have plans for next year or an idea of what the future looks like? Asking if he has a concern about a particular position for next year doesn't suggest that at all.

Yeah, I trust that Shaka is a good coach and will figure something out. But that doesn't change that Sean and Tre both don't look like starters next year and they probably were recruited to be that. So it's reasonable to wonder and guess about how we'll handle that position next year. Owens can handle the ball but is he a primary playmaker? Could Tre be kind of a hybrid where he's a defensive stopper and has a reduced offensive role of just bringing it up and then waiting in the corner?

[DoctorV]

Nobody puts baby in the corner

[tower912]

18 regular season games to go.this season, so minimum 19 remaining.  A lot of golf left to be played.

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

We've been in the top-10 three years running using a development model. Many thought we would fall off without Justin and Morsell, same when Kolek and Oso left, yet here we are again.

That's because when the first class left, the staff saw not what was gone, but what was back and developed the roster accordingly. And when TK & Oso left, they had Kam & Ben in place and trusted them to carry on. So maybe when Kam, Jop, and Stevie go, they have an idea of what they are bringing back and how they'll develop them to reach another ceiling that (once again) could be higher than the one before.

[Newsdreams]

I trust Shaka has a plan. I doubt he is worried.

No he doesn't, he has never had a plan!!! We need Wardle period.

[MuMark]

Yeah, I trust that Shaka is a good coach and will figure something out. But that doesn't change that Sean and Tre both don't look like starters next year and they probably were recruited to be that. So it's reasonable to wonder and guess about how we'll handle that position next year. Owens can handle the ball but is he a primary playmaker? Could Tre be kind of a hybrid where he's a defensive stopper and has a reduced offensive role of just bringing it up and then waiting in the corner?

Did Stevie look like a starter after his freshman year? Did Omax look like a starter after not being a rotational player as a freshman at Clemson? Did he look like a first round pick after his first year at MU when he averaged 6 points a game?

Guys develop at different rates.......I trust Shaka to figure it out.........one way or another.

[Uncle Rico]

We better not schedule Radford next year is what I'm hearing

[dgies9156]

Sometimes you guys amaze me.

We don't seem to give anyone credit for growing into the roles they're going to be pushed to assume. We assume what you see is what you get.

If Coach Shaka has proven anything in the four years he's been at Marquette, it's that our players grow into their roles. When Tyler transferred in, did anyone think he would someday be drafted and play in the NBA? Well, maybe Tyler did! Ditto for Oso. He was a borderline Wojo reclamation project when Coach Shaka arrived. He too, is in the NBA.

Our guys will grow and I suspect many of you will be surprised at how much they'll grow. Relationships, Growth, Victory. Remember???

[tower912]

You say it very eloquently, dgies.

[avid1010]

Sometimes you guys amaze me.

We don't seem to give anyone credit for growing into the roles they're going to be pushed to assume. We assume what you see is what you get.

If Coach Shaka has proven anything in the four years he's been at Marquette, it's that our players grow into their roles. When Tyler transferred in, did anyone think he would someday be drafted and play in the NBA? Well, maybe Tyler did! Ditto for Oso. He was a borderline Wojo reclamation project when Coach Shaka arrived. He too, is in the NBA.

Our guys will grow and I suspect many of you will be surprised at how much they'll grow. Relationships, Growth, Victory. Remember???

I think it's very possible we see growth from current players and still take a step back next year without a PG that can do what Kam or TKO can do in the half-court action.   Obviously Shaka and Nevada will have a plan, but I think the sophomore class and Sean's injury is going to bite us a bit. 

Nothing I lose sleep over.  I'm good if we're dancing in March, have a classy coach, and get to watch kids develop at MU for multiple years.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Yeah, I trust that Shaka is a good coach and will figure something out. But that doesn't change that Sean and Tre both don't look like starters next year and they probably were recruited to be that. So it's reasonable to wonder and guess about how we'll handle that position next year. Owens can handle the ball but is he a primary playmaker? Could Tre be kind of a hybrid where he's a defensive stopper and has a reduced offensive role of just bringing it up and then waiting in the corner?

I have no issue wondering about the PG position next season, its our job as fans,  but i don't think we can say "Sean doesnt look like a starter" when we haven't seen him play in a year.

Personally I'm not particularly worried about PG next season. We have 4 options currently projected to be on the roster: Sean, Tre, Damarius, and Nigel. One has been injured all season, one isn't on the roster yet,  and two had significant injuries in the offseason that hampered their development. I say all this because what they look like now doesn't matter much to me.  With a full offseason, I trust the staff to develop at least 25% of them into good to great starting PGs. Personally,  my money is on Damarius beimgn the primary ball handler next season

[MuMark]

I think it's very possible we see growth from current players and still take a step back next year without a PG that can do what Kam or TKO can do in the half-court action.   Obviously Shaka and Nevada will have a plan, but I think the sophomore class and Sean's injury is going to bite us a bit. 

Nothing I lose sleep over.  I'm good if we're dancing in March, have a classy coach, and get to watch kids develop at MU for multiple years.

 MU certainly could take a step back next season........it happens to just about every program from time to time.....I don't think any of us expect 2/3 seeds to be the norm every year going forward.

[PointWarrior]

this thread is taking a turn for the COLE...

[BM1090]

MU certainly could take a step back next season........it happens to just about every program from time to time.....I don't think any of us expect 2/3 seeds to be the norm every year going forward.

Honestly, I don't think there's any reason 2/3 seeds can't be the norm. A year here and there where we step back? For sure. But if Gonzaga and Nova can do it, so can we. And we're likely looking at three straight years of it. That's a trend.

[Scoop Snoop]

Dgies, regarding your comments about Oso...

"He was a borderline Wojo reclamation project when Coach Shaka arrived."

Ouch! 

[Newsdreams]

Sometimes you guys amaze me.

We don't seem to give anyone credit for growing into the roles they're going to be pushed to assume. We assume what you see is what you get.

If Coach Shaka has proven anything in the four years he's been at Marquette, it's that our players grow into their roles. When Tyler transferred in, did anyone think he would someday be drafted and play in the NBA? Well, maybe Tyler did! Ditto for Oso. He was a borderline Wojo reclamation project when Coach Shaka arrived. He too, is in the NBA.

Our guys will grow and I suspect many of you will be surprised at how much they'll grow. Relationships, Growth, Victory. Remember???

Shaka slurper

[Newsdreams]

You say it very eloquently, dgies.

Just putting MU journalism to good use

[Uncle Rico]

Shaka slurper

What has Shaka ever won?  Everyone here acts like he's a coaching God, the equivalent to Zeus up on high but he's basically no better than Brain Wordle who you all mock.  He doesn't even use all his tight ends or slap Jaloplin and lets GoooooooooooollllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllddddddddddddðddddddddddddddddddbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbrrrrřrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrriiiiiiiĩiiiiiiiiiîiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiicccccccćccccccccccccccccccccccccćkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkKkkkkkkkķkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk shoot 3's and we can't question him

[warriorchick]

Dgies, regarding your comments about Oso...

"He was a borderline Wojo reclamation project when Coach Shaka arrived."

Ouch! 

He's not wrong.

[Scoop Snoop]

He's not wrong.

Oh I know. Just found his wording amusing.

[Jay Bee]

Let's see how things go when our backcourt isn't stud Wojo recruits

[Hards Alumni]

Let's see how things go when our backcourt isn't stud Wojo recruits

[Galway Eagle]

Honestly, I don't think there's any reason 2/3 seeds can't be the norm. A year here and there where we step back? For sure. But if Gonzaga and Nova can do it, so can we. And we're likely looking at three straight years of it. That's a trend.

Important to note how many years of consistency it took before that happened. I mean pre modern big east nova was a powerhouse and had multiple recent postseason runs and success but not nearly the level they were 14-22 and Zags had like one great seed for something like 15yrs before they were consistently a top 5 seed.

[BM1090]

Important to note how many years of consistency it took before that happened. I mean pre modern big east nova was a powerhouse and had multiple recent postseason runs and success but not nearly the level they were 14-22 and Zags had like one great seed for something like 15yrs before they were consistently a top 5 seed.

For sure. And I'm certain we will have down years. But there's no reason 2-3 seeds can't be a reasonable goal most years. We're already accomplishing tha

[THRILLHO]

I have no issue wondering about the PG position next season, its our job as fans,  but i don't think we can say "Sean doesnt look like a starter" when we haven't seen him play in a year.

Personally I'm not particularly worried about PG next season. We have 4 options currently projected to be on the roster: Sean, Tre, Damarius, and Nigel. One has been injured all season, one isn't on the roster yet,  and two had significant injuries in the offseason that hampered their development. I say all this because what they look like now doesn't matter much to me.  With a full offseason, I trust the staff to develop at least 25% of them into good to great starting PGs. Personally,  my money is on Damarius beimgn the primary ball handler next season

I appreciate that this is exactly the spirit I was going for. Whatever happens I think the team will be fun and competitive, but it's fun to speculate about the _how_. The reason I think Sean didn't look like he would be good enough to be a starter is he didn't look like he would be a starter last year, and he's coming off an ACL injury which sometimes takes two years to get back to full strength, so I'm just not optimistic. My best hope is that Tre improves enough as a shooter to where he can play with Owens and have more equally distributed playmaking than this year. The past two years TK and Kam have been all timers at distribution, but it doesn't have to work that way. Of course maybe Nigel will come in and seize the position, that would be awesome! But I've learned to temper my optimism for freshmen contributing. I think Owens can do it, but that's actually the least desirable option because then we'll have 3 point guard sized guys on the bench for one backups worth of minutes.

Just to be clear to those who can't handle discussion, I don't doubt Shaka's ability to make the most of it, I'm not trembling in fear, I just think it's interesting to game out the possibilities and discuss Shaka's options. I think all four options are better than going to the portal, which is a credit to Shaka's roster management.