Ben Gold's shooting

[BM1090]

IMO Joplin is a better shooter than Gold.
Gold does not have much arch on his shot also seems to be rushing.

I'd agree. You look back at his misses and makes and his makes almost always come when he's square to the hoop and set up to shoot. On his misses he's usually on his heels and fading a bit. Gotta correct those mechanics.

Jop I think is the better shooter or at least has higher potential with his shooting. Especially when contested.

Gold is more athletic and quicker.

But I do think they are similar players at this stage.

[MU82]

Joplin shot 40% from 3 over the course of an entire season and impressed Big East coaches enough to be selected as the best player off the bench player the whole conference.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Joplin shot 40% from 3 over the course of an entire season and impressed Big East coaches enough to be selected as the best player off the bench player the whole conference.

And then his minutes increased over 40% the next year, and his percentage dropped off considerably.

Seriously, you are going back two years ago?

[tower912]

Thoughts and prayers.

[Herman Cain]

Said this in some other threads; there are several guys on the MU Squad who have proven they can't consistently shoot 3s in games and shoot large volumes with few if any makes. We know from Coaching reports, that these folks are consistently making the shots in practice. I am ok with these unproven players  trying to gain game confidence etc against cupcakes. However, against the quality opponents the unproven players green lights need to be severely restricted. The issue is many of these players are missing wide open uncontested 3s. There has been discussion in threads over the years that High Major D1 Players should be able to hit wide open, uncontested, 3s at the 40 percent rate.

I am fine with guys like Kam being volume 3 point shooters as he has proven consistency. He has also shown discipline this year knowing he will be closely guarded and has no TyKo feeding him.

The role model for the team should be TyKo. He didn't take that many threes, but he was consistently around 40 percent on the  wide open, uncontested, shots and he didn't take many contested unless it was when the clock was running down. 

[MU82]

And then his minutes increased over 40% the next year, and his percentage dropped off considerably.

Seriously, you are going back two years ago?

With increased usage, Joplin shot 36% from 3 last season and helped us win a lot of games. That also happens to be his career percentage. I'd take that this season.

[THRILLHO]

Said this in some other threads; there are several guys on the MU Squad who have proven they can't consistently shoot 3s in games and shoot large volumes with few if any makes. We know from Coaching reports, that these folks are consistently making the shots in practice. I am ok with these unproven players  trying to gain game confidence etc against cupcakes. However, against the quality opponents the unproven players green lights need to be severely restricted. The issue is many of these players are missing wide open uncontested 3s. There has been discussion in threads over the years that High Major D1 Players should be able to hit wide open, uncontested, 3s at the 40 percent rate.

I am fine with guys like Kam being volume 3 point shooters as he has proven consistency. He has also shown discipline this year knowing he will be closely guarded and has no TyKo feeding him.

The role model for the team should be TyKo. He didn't take that many threes, but he was consistently around 40 percent on the  wide open, uncontested, shots and he didn't take many contested unless it was when the clock was running down. 

I understand the sentiment and frustration but what I'd love to see in this argument is a definition of consistency that we could test with data. Something like variance in game wise shooting percentage?

[Jay Bee]

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[forgetful]

I ran some simulations to examine a few questions.
1) What type of season long shooting percentage might we expect from someone who we think has a "true" 3PFG% of, say, 36%.
2) What is the probability of a season containing a 3-game slump with 19% shooting for a shooter with a "true" 36% 3PFG%.

Assumptions:
30 game season
Exactly 7 shots per game (BG's average so far) - I didn't sample this but could

Question 1:
In 10000 simulations, the minimum season long 3PFG% is 23.8%, max is 50.4% (see attached histogram).

Question 2:
Over 10000 simulations, there are 7442 3-game slumps with <=19% 3PFG%. Since these are not independent, I also looked at how many seasons would contain a slump, and that number is 42.3%.

Of course if your input 3PFG% is lower, you will get more slumps and more seasons with slumps.

Hopefully this can help inform this conversation.

This is one of the better posts on here.