Independent Report on the Secret Service

[Lennys Tap]

For those who have been waiting, a scathing rebuke of the Secret Service in Butler and in general. https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/17/politics/trump-assassination-independent-review-secret-service/index.html

[wadesworld]

Thank you for your service.  I was, indeed, waiting on the edge of my seat for this.

[Jay Bee]

Rocky is pissed, like a six year old hangry for boiled pig lips and feet

[Uncle Rico]

Thank you for your service.  I was, indeed, waiting on the edge of my seat for this.

Yeah, I don't believe this report.  I saw on Facebook and InfoWars that this was a deep state plot to take out Trump and the Secret Service was infiltrated by the Illuminati to make this happen.

They're blaming the Secret Service so they can replace the ones fighting the deep state. 

[The Lens]

There are a lot of words and case study talk in there but this is the craziest part:

"The Secret Service has become bureaucratic, complacent, and static even though risks have multiplied and technology has evolved," the panel wrote in its report released Wednesday.

Evolved?  they let a dude get on the roof with sight of a former President carrying one of the most popular, mainstream US weapons.

It was just a collosal F up. A person is dead bc they didn't do what 100% of Scoopers would have done...secure the perimeter.   

[Galway Eagle]

There are a lot of words and case study talk in there but this is the craziest part:

Evolved?  they let a dude get on the roof with sight of a former President carrying one of the most popular, mainstream US weapons.

It was just a collosal F up. A person is dead bc they didn't do what 100% of Scoopers would have done...secure the perimeter.   

but what about his second amendment rights?

[Uncle Rico]

but what about his second amendment rights?

I think they saved the gun, thankfully.

[jesmu84]

Good

If the report is true, accurate and unbiased, then accountability for action/inaction will hopefully improve things moving forward

[Hards Alumni]

For those who have been waiting, a scathing rebuke of the Secret Service in Butler and in general. https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/17/politics/trump-assassination-independent-review-secret-service/index.html

Oh, sorry, I thought it was pretty obvious that the Secret Service massively effed up.  The head resigned, over this, in fact!

[Lennys Tap]

Oh, sorry, I thought it was pretty obvious that the Secret Service massively effed up.  The head resigned, over this, in fact!

Maybe to you. Several here initially defended the SS, others were on the fence awaiting more information. I don't recall your position but I do know JB called it from the beginning and took plenty of grief here for it.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Maybe to you. Several here initially defended the SS, others were on the fence awaiting more information. I don't recall your position but I do know JB called it from the beginning and took plenty of grief here for it.

There weren't many defending the SS. There were some who implied that it may have been an inside job though - I am assuming this report didn't say that.  Most people said that they should just let the investigation run its course.

And there were those blaming Joy Reid.

[Hards Alumni]

Maybe to you. Several here initially defended the SS, others were on the fence awaiting more information. I don't recall your position but I do know JB called it from the beginning and took plenty of grief here for it.

I didn't say anything about it since I wasn't around, and by the time I saw the thread it was locked.  Looking back at the thread (you can do this) the first message from JayBee said "Current regime's SS. Scary. This country needs a leader, not a sleeper".  Most of the SS folks are LIFERS and not appointed by any administration.  Is there evidence they intended for Trump to be killed?  Nope.  Yet, that is what JayBee was insinuating.  The people of the SS are 100% to blame, but there is nothing partisan about it. 

You're welcome to dig through 13 pages to prove any of the nonsense you do or don't remember.  Just be genuine about what you're saying since you seem to have so much trouble remembering important facts and communicating your thoughts.

[tower912]

I predicted a deep dive and serious self criticism.

[Lennys Tap]

I predicted a deep dive and serious self criticism.

You did. Both you and JB called it.

[Jay Bee]

Looking back at the thread (you can do this) the first message from JayBee said "Current regime's SS. Scary. This country needs a leader, not a sleeper".  Most of the SS folks are LIFERS and not appointed by any administration.  Is there evidence they intended for Trump to be killed?  Nope.  Yet, that is what JayBee was insinuating.  The people of the SS are 100% to blame, but there is nothing partisan about it. 

Stop lying. I never insinuated anything close to that. My point was simply that the secret service had royally effd up and this country needs a leader, not someone taking naps and pooping his pants — hell, I can do that.

My comment was met with "I draw the line" nonsense from a mod, whining that the secret service should not be disparaged.

Please stop with the lies.

Cheatle was appointed by Biden. You can read his statement at whitehouse.gov... "I am pleased to announce I have selected Kim Cheatle to be the next Director of the United States Secret Service". 

[Hards Alumni]

Stop lying. I never insinuated anything close to that. My point was simply that the secret service had royally effd up and this country needs a leader, not someone taking naps and pooping his pants — hell, I can do that.

My comment was met with "I draw the line" nonsense from a mod, whining that the secret service should not be disparaged.

Please stop with the lies.

Cheatle was appointed by Biden. You can read his statement at whitehouse.gov... "I am pleased to announce I have selected Kim Cheatle to be the next Director of the United States Secret Service".

Then why say that it was the "Current regime's SS"?  What would the point of this statement be? 

Just that Biden appointed the head?  She is certainly to blame since she is ultimately in charge, but insinuating that a career SS agent who worked under both parties since '95 was part of a 'regime' is introducing partisanship into a situation that had none.  Biden kept Trumps SS director around for a year and a half, and Trump kept Obama's around for a year after taking office.

These are not partisan appointments.  These folks are rarely fired, and usually retire as director.

[Jay Bee]

Why did the gal appointed by Biden step down? Why did so many demand that she be outta there?

[Hards Alumni]

Why did the gal appointed by Biden step down? Why did so many demand that she be outta there?

Well a President almost got assassinated.  It was a huge eff up.  As I've said.  Someone had to go so it was the director.  That just makes sense.

You're ignoring my questions though.

[rocky_warrior]

Since it seems to rankle JB, I maintain the secret service agents performed their job admirably that day to protect the former president's life.  They should be commended for their actions.

The reports indicate they could make some procedural improvements, and I'm sure they'll take that into consideration.

[muwarrior69]

Since it seems to rankle JB, I maintain the secret service agents performed their job admirably that day to protect the former president's life.  They should be commended for their actions.

The reports indicate they could make some procedural improvements, and I'm sure they'll take that into consideration.

After the guy got off 6-8 rounds. They were lucky Trump wasn't killed. That is not protecting the former President or any protectee admirably.

[Hards Alumni]

Since it seems to rankle JB, I maintain the secret service agents performed their job admirably that day to protect the former president's life.  They should be commended for their actions.

The reports indicate they could make some procedural improvements, and I'm sure they'll take that into consideration.

This is some good trollin tho

[NCMUFan]

Should we say, typical federal government work quality?

[Galway Eagle]

After the guy got off 6-8 rounds. They were lucky Trump wasn't killed. That is not protecting the former President or any protectee admirably.

Prior to that he was a good guy with a gun though. Can't automatically assume he was a bad guy that'd infringe on his rights.

[The Lens]

Beyond the SS f*ck up it's sickening how much Trump loves the attempt.

Transcipt from his Univision appearance...

PR: And talking about God. I know that there's such a change in a lot of ways your your point of view about life and the purpose of this campaign. Can you describe a little bit how that changed for you after this incident for you in Pennsylviania?

DT: Well, the odds of that happening the way it happened, I mean, it was obviously a serious shot. It got me pretty good, but, relatively minor compared to what could have been if it weren't for, like, an eighth of an inch. Literally an eighth of an inch. Can you believe that? And so I feel very good about things. And you really, you really do believe somebody is watching over you and something like that happens. It was a close enough distance that people that are shooters would say that, they called it the equivalent of a two foot putt. And, so I got very lucky and I had somebody protecting me, I believe.

Not one mention of the gentleman who was killed. A family lost a dad, a husband, a son.  And he just rambles on about how the shooter missed a 2 foot putt.  Disgusting.

[NCMUFan]

You sound more distraught than DT who was shot at.
Get help.