FBI revises 2022 violent crime numbers

[Lennys Tap]

FBI originally reported that violent crime was down 2.1% in 2022. Now they report it was actually up 4.5%.

[Uncle Rico]

FBI originally reported that violent crime was down 2.1% in 2022. Now they report it was actually up 4.5%.

The dental crime wave has run amok

[Pakuni]

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=66314.msg1681579#msg1681579

[Lennys Tap]

https://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=66314.msg1681579#msg1681579

Why confine discussion of an important topic to a silly and infantile thread?

[Pakuni]

Why confine discussion of an important topic to a silly and infantile thread?

Exposing the suffering and loss that dental criminals are inflicting upon society - our fellow citizens - is neither silly nor infantile.

But I'm sure you're seeking a sincere discussion of FBI reporting methods, and not at all posting this for silly and infantile political reasons.

[wadesworld]

TAMU already explained the Fox News talking point.

[Lennys Tap]

Exposing the suffering and loss that dental criminals are inflicting upon society - our fellow citizens - is neither silly nor infantile.

But I'm sure you're seeking a sincere discussion of FBI reporting methods, and not at all posting this for silly and infantile political reasons.

The people here who insist violent crime in the US is down cite the FBI stats as proof. It's silly and infantile to point out that the "proof" they they championed ended up proving the contrary?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

The people here who insist violent crime in the US is down cite the FBI stats as proof. It's silly and infantile to point out that the "proof" they they championed ended up proving the contrary?

Are you scared?  You sound scared.

Anyway...

https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/home

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Anyway, I will point out the only reason the "silly and infantile" thread exists, is because someone decided that it would be a good idea to post about every crime reported around the Marquette campus.

Of course the implication being that Marquette and Milwaukee is a violent place, full of crime.  Of course the irony being that anyone can slice and dice data to make a geographic area...or a profession...look dangerous.

[Lennys Tap]

Are you scared?  You sound scared.

Anyway...

https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/home

Me? Nope. I live in a safe area. But not everyone in the USA does. I empathize with those people.

[Uncle Rico]

Me? Nope. I live in a safe area. But not everyone in the USA does. I empathize with those people.

You must not have many dentists  where you live

[Pakuni]

The people here who insist violent crime in the US is down cite the FBI stats as proof. It's silly and infantile to point out that the "proof" they they championed ended up proving the contrary?

Yes, because you're not posting this out of any actual concern about crime or FBI methodology. You're trying to get your "gotcha" moment. You admit as much.

Also, why are we talking about 2022, when we have 2023 figures?
https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-2023-crime-in-the-nation-statistics

[Shaka Shart]

But what about Chicago

[Lennys Tap]

Yes, because you're not posting this out of any actual concern about crime or FBI methodology. You're trying to get your "gotcha" moment. You admit as much.

Also, why are we talking about 2022, when we have 2023 figures?
https://www.fbi.gov/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-2023-crime-in-the-nation-statistics

LOL
2023 unrevised figures. What good are figures that a year from now will end up in the trash can?

[Uncle Rico]

LOL
2023 unrevised figures. What good are figures that a year from now will end up in the trash can?

I'm surprised crime rates would be higher when republicans have more governorships and state legislatures.

[Dickthedribbler]

I'd like to thank Lenny for starting this thread and correcting the record. It won't undo the bull chit and outright lies some of you guys peddle here, always trying to downplay the serious crime problem we have in this country. Always mocking anyone who wants to discuss these issues truthfully.

[Pakuni]

LOL
2023 unrevised figures. What good are figures that a year from now will end up in the trash can?

Because they almost certainly are a more accurate indicator of the state of affairs in October 2024 than  numbers from more than two years ago.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I'd like to thank Lenny for starting this thread and correcting the record. It won't undo the bull chit and outright lies some of you guys peddle here, always trying to downplay the serious crime problem we have in this country. Always mocking anyone who wants to discuss these issues truthfully.

Based on your posting history, you don't care much about truth.

[Uncle Rico]

I'd like to thank Lenny for starting this thread and correcting the record. It won't undo the bull chit and outright lies some of you guys peddle here, always trying to downplay the serious crime problem we have in this country. Always mocking anyone who wants to discuss these issues truthfully.

lol

[MU82]

I'm grateful for all of those who have helped drive crime down in 2023, be they police or the public or politicians of whatever party.

Related:

At least seven criminals granted clemency by the previous president have returned to lives of crime.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/health-care-fraudster-philip-esformes-latest-trump-clemency-recipient-rcna175681d

https://www.ncja.org/crimeandjusticenews/six-who-got-trump-clemency-have-been-charged-with-new-crimes

And just wait for the crime numbers if the convicted felon gets elected again and pardons hundreds of violent domestic terrorists, as he has repeatedly promised to do.

Law and order, ya know.

[Jay Bee]

TAMU already explained the Fox News talking point.

No, he made claims without presenting data. If there were such wild swings year after year, can't imagine results would be presented "early".

Sure, there can be small adjustments — but this was a wild swing. And disgraceful!

[Dickthedribbler]

Based on your posting history, you don't care much about truth.

Oh, come on Satan. I know you don't really mean that. I just chalk up your crankiness to your anxiety over the upcoming national election.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Oh, come on Satan. I know you don't really mean that. I just chalk up your crankiness to your anxiety over the upcoming national election.

I'm not anxious about the national election. I'm not obesssed with politics.

And I 100% meant it. You have proven time and again that truth isn't important to you.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

FBI originally reported that violent crime was down 2.1% in 2022. Now they report it was actually up 4.5%.

For those who don't know, these stats always increase over time as more data comes in. It happened under the Trump administration as well. Even with the updates, the violent crime rate is near to the lowest rate in the past 50 years.

The 2021, 2022, 2023  violent crime rates (Bidens first three years) have all been lower than Trumps last year. So they still say violent crime is decreasing.  They are also about half what they were in the early 90s despite claims that it has never been as bad as it is now.

This is FOX taking something standard and spinning it to be something nefarious.

And for the record,  I don't think these numbers say anything good/bad about eithet Biden or Trump. Because who is president has a statistically insignificant impact on violent crime rates.

[Lennys Tap]

Oh, come on Satan. I know you don't really mean that. I just chalk up your crankiness to your anxiety over the upcoming national election.

He's a cranky guy who routinely picks fights on Scoop on a myriad of topics. I don't know if he's obsessed with politics, but there's no doubt he's obsessed with this place.