Starting line ups/rotations 24-25

[Shooter McGavin]

Yep, people jumping on the unknown (DO) at the expense of the know (BG/DJ) confound me.

Not sure this is mutually exclusive. 

Also, many of the people who agree with you and Tower thinks Owens will be the sixth man.  Meaning a difference maker.

Im not sold either way because I have not seen him play other than you tube highlights.

But I find it encouraging that normally restrained posters who have previously remained cautious on freshman impact prior to seasons starting are a little more optimistic about DO than other freshmen.

[Its DJOver]

The point I am trying to make is that really you currently have no point.

No one is anointing him anything. No savior. Simply that by everything out of camp he's going to contribute immediately. Likely more than Kam did.

Basically your entire basis is "I've been fooled too many times by freshman, so nothing else matters. Must prove it in November"

Fine. But massively flawed.

Shaka, MU, and Shaka at MU are all 3 not immune to freshman having the EXACT year that people in the know are setting as an expectation for Owens

Just wild that there's push back on saying the guy is a top end bench and BE caliber lol

You'd think someone said he was 1st team all America.

I like that you say that I don’t have a point and then make my point for me. He’s an unknown player. I expect nothing from unknown players, that way I can’t be disappointed. I would be absolutely shocked if he puts up Kams freshman production. Also, the only one that has used words like anoint is you. What I’m saying is prove it in actual games, not just is summer work outs and one open practice.

[brewcity77]

So if people are hearing good things about a freshman they shouldn't talk about it because it doesn't mean anything until November? Seems to defeat the point of a team message board if you don't want people to post messages relating to what they hear about the team.

[Jay Bee]

If Damarius can hit from deep at a clip of 13.0% or better, he should get 40 mpg

[Its DJOver]

So if people are hearing good things about a freshman they shouldn't talk about it because it doesn't mean anything until November? Seems to defeat the point of a team message board if you don't want people to post messages relating to what they hear about the team.

You can talk about him as much as you want.  I have neither the power or desire to control what others post.  Just understand that from a historical perspective, it's unlikely that he will have the production that some are anticipating. If you think that he will be the exception, that's fine, I genuinely hope that it happens because it means that we will have more team success.  I just would prefer more evidence than summer coach talk, summer highlight videos, and one open practice before I will be convinced.

[StillAWarrior]

Just understand that from a historical perspective, it's unlikely that he will have the production that some are anticipating.

March 9, 2022: Just understand that from a historical perspective, it’s unlikely that Marquette will advance beyond the semifinals in the Big East Tournament.

[Its DJOver]

March 9, 2022: Just understand that from a historical perspective, it’s unlikely that Marquette will advance beyond the semifinals in the Big East Tournament.

Kinda an apples to oranges comparison don’t you think?

[wadesworld]

You can talk about him as much as you want.  I have neither the power or desire to control what others post.  Just understand that from a historical perspective, it's unlikely that he will have the production that some are anticipating. If you think that he will be the exception, that's fine, I genuinely hope that it happens because it means that we will have more team success.  I just would prefer more evidence than summer coach talk, summer highlight videos, and one open practice before I will be convinced.

There aren’t a ton of datapoints with Shaka at MU. 3 years here. Shaka played a lot of newcomers a lot of minutes year one, but that’s because he had to. Year 2 played the returners a ton, with Chase getting 17 mpg and Sean 12 mpg as freshmen. Last year had a ton of returning minutes, so very few minutes available for freshmen. Going into this year, there are minutes out there for the freshmen to take. I’d assume Zaide and Tre will get the first opportunity at those minutes, but neither consistently showed they’ll hold off decent talent.

Shaka did play freshmen a lot at Texas. But that talent was higher level than at MU.