Starting line ups/rotations 24-25

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Do you envision a scenario where Zaide/Tre become 6th man? 

You mean like...fuse them together?

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Do you envision a scenario where Zaide/Tre become 6th man?

Based on the open practice and reports out of practice, Owens has a big leg up.

Tre and Zaide are making strides, but I see them competing with Caedin and Royce for spots 7-10.  Caedin probably has the surest role due to positional needs (backup C).

[wadesworld]

Been working on these for every Big East team. Here's my Marquette expectation:

G - Kam Jones
G - Stevie Mitchell
G - Chase Ross
F - David Joplin
F - Ben Gold

B1 - Damarius Owens
B2 - Tre Norman
B3 - Zaide Lowery
B4 - Caedin Hamilton

Owens is my bet for first off the bench. I think Tre & Zaide will be interchangeable based on situation and need. Hamilton will likely only be at the 5, but replace Jop or Ben as both of them can step out to play on the wing (as Ben did last year with Oso).

Parham & Amadou likely only get spot minutes. I just don't think there's a lot of room in the rotation for them. Sean is the wildcard. I doubt we see him this year unless two things happen. First, he recovers faster than I've heard is expected. Second, the rotation above isn't able to man the point effectively or injuries force him back in.

Josh Clark I doubt we see until next year.

Agreed on all of this other than I'd put Royce above Caedin.  Agreed that Tre and Zaide will depend on matchup and situation.

[tower912]

I get you, wades, but somebody has to back up the 5.  I am not sure that is Royce.

[wadesworld]

I get you, wades, but somebody has to back up the 5.  I am not sure that is Royce.

I think we're a 5 out team this year.  Gold/Parham/Jop cover the minutes at the 5.  Caedin will probably get situational spot minutes, but I don't think he'll get regular rotation minutes.

[JTJ3]

Royce said when he signed the expectation was for him to play the same "trigger" spot that Oso played, which is the 5.

Agree I think he plays before Hamilton by the end of the year.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Royce said when he signed the expectation was for him to play the same "trigger" spot that Oso played, which is the 5.

Agree I think he plays before Hamilton by the end of the year.

Parham can play both the trigger role or spot up shooter.  In Dodds' interviews, a couple players have praised Royce's shooting.

I think rotation spots 7-10 are going to be very competitive.  It'll be interesting to see how those minutes are dispersed.

[Uncle Rico]

I get you, wades, but somebody has to back up the 5.  I am not sure that is Royce.

Might be Ramsey, unless he's playing PG

[tower912]

Isn't Ramsey in charge of NIL?  Keeping debt to a minimum.

[brewcity77]

I think we're a 5 out team this year.  Gold/Parham/Jop cover the minutes at the 5.  Caedin will probably get situational spot minutes, but I don't think he'll get regular rotation minutes.

Every indication is Caedin will be the primary backup at the five. I think Parham has better long term upside, but this year I think Caedin is ahead in the depth chart.

[mileskishnish72]

It's too late at night to look up the stats but Ben needs to be able to play D without fouls. To me, it's a source of worry. I'm hoping the hype about Cardin is not puffery.

[mileskishnish72]

Caedin.

[Scoop Snoop]

It's too late at night to look up the stats but Ben needs to be able to play D without fouls. To me, it's a source of worry. I'm hoping the hype about Cardin is not puffery.

It's not puffery, and when Cardin and Ramsey are on the floor at the same time, I guarantee Marquette is unstoppable.

[Shooter McGavin]

For me the biggest X factors for this season are Ben Gold stepping up as a leader and being a consistent and reliable option on offense, Caedin being a reliable backup for 15 min a game and Owens potential to be an impact player off the bench.

I think Kam, Stevie and Jop will do their thing but even better this year.  Kam will be an all American.  I expect incremental improvement for the Sophs. 

If the X factors (Ben, Caedin, and Owens) do their thing this team should be really good.  I'm just not sure about any of them.

[PGsHeroes32]

For me the biggest X factors for this season are Ben Gold stepping up as a leader and being a consistent and reliable option on offense, Caedin being a reliable backup for 15 min a game and Owens potential to be an impact player off the bench.

I think Kam, Stevie and Jop will do their thing but even better this year.  Kam will be an all American.  I expect incremental improvement for the Sophs. 

If the X factors (Ben, Caedin, and Owens) do their thing this team should be really good.  I'm just not sure about any of them.

A hopefully healthy chase is key too.

Like you said, with Kam, Stevie and Jop(for better or worse on him) we have a pretty good baseline of expectation.

I think it's key that at least 1 of Chase and Benny take a leap to legitmate starter. Hopefully both.


Then also hope one of Tre or Zaide really have a soph bump.

[Shooter McGavin]

A hopefully healthy chase is key too.

Like you said, with Kam, Stevie and Jop(for better or worse on him) we have a pretty good baseline of expectation.

I think it's key that at least 1 of Chase and Benny take a leap to legitmate starter. Hopefully both.


Then also hope one of Tre or Zaide really have a soph bump.

Good point.  Ross, like Gold needs to be relied upon for consistency.

[MU82]

Good point.  Ross, like Gold needs to be relied upon for consistency.

If any player is to take the "big step" - the kind that Oso and TK took in 2022-23 to have a profound impact on the program - I'm thinking that Chase is the best candidate.

To be a really good team again, we need Ross to play consistently well IMHO.

[El Guerrero 2]

Tre seems to think DO will be playing PG this year: https://247sports.com/college/marquette/article/our-interview-series-continues-soph-pg-tre-norman-comments-about-his-summer-workouts-and-his-new-teammates-236406514/

That's interesting both because it would be awesome to throw a 6-8 athlete on Hassan Diarra and because it suggests we won't be seaming Sean for awhile.

[wadesworld]

Tre seems to think DO will be playing PG this year: https://247sports.com/college/marquette/article/our-interview-series-continues-soph-pg-tre-norman-comments-about-his-summer-workouts-and-his-new-teammates-236406514/

That's interesting both because it would be awesome to throw a 6-8 athlete on Hassan Diarra and because it suggests we won't be seaming Sean for awhile.

I think if we're using a lengthy athlete on lead guards it'll be someone like Zaide, who did that a bit last year.  From what I've seen, both Owens and Parham will be ready to contribute offensively, but have a ways to go defensively.

[Spotcheck Billy]

Tre seems to think DO will be playing PG this year: https://247sports.com/college/marquette/article/our-interview-series-continues-soph-pg-tre-norman-comments-about-his-summer-workouts-and-his-new-teammates-236406514/

That's interesting both because it would be awesome to throw a 6-8 athlete on Hassan Diarra and because it suggests we won't be seaming Sean for awhile.

It's starting to seem that Shaka wants all hands on PG this year.

[jfp61]

I think if we're using a lengthy athlete on lead guards it'll be someone like Zaide, who did that a bit last year.  From what I've seen, both Owens and Parham will be ready to contribute offensively, but have a ways to go defensively.

Owens will contribute more than zaide in every way.

[mileskishnish72]

For me the biggest X factors for this season are Ben Gold stepping up as a leader and being a consistent and reliable option on offense, Caedin being a reliable backup for 15 min a game and Owens potential to be an impact player off the bench.

+1

[wadesworld]

Owens will contribute more than zaide in every way.

He'll most likely play more.  But Zaide will be the much better defensive player.

[tower912]

If Owens can defend to Shaka's standards, he will play more.  Having a versatile 6'8 player is a great asset.   Sub in for Chase with the rest of the starters, and MU is suddenly almost big.   Ben, Owens, Chase, Zaide, Kam and you have a whole lot of speed and long arms.   Owens in the old OMax role as the point of the press.

I can see a whole lot of options going forward.  Don't get me started on the 25-26  combinations.   But can he defend on day one?

[El Guerrero 2]

Owens will contribute more than zaide in every way.

Calling it now, Zaide is my breakout prediction for this season. He had a very solid all around freshman season and the ceiling is the limit with his athletic ability.