Quite The Juxtaposition

[tower912]

I really enjoyed the gospel reading for Mass on 9/1.   Mk 7:1-8, 14-15, 21-23.

Calling out hypocrites for false piety.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

thx for the reply. And yeah, chicks/dicks is too hs locker room. I admit that I don't necessarily 'accept'. I don't discriminate, but acceptance?  If I find lgbtq lifestyles distasteful, using scripture as a guide...Leviticus, 1Timothy, Romans, 1Corinthians & so on, can I accept? I accept the person but not the ways of that person? That's a tough one. My weakness, maybe. Anyway, back to hoops. What's the original topic of this thread?...Hacking on 82, maybe?

What's the difference between "discriminate" and "not accept?"

[Uncle Rico]

According to Leviticus, we're also not supposed to:

- get tattoos
- grow your hair out
- drink alcohol in holy places (tough break, Catholics)
- go to church within 33 days of giving birth to a boy; 66 days for a girl
- make metal gods (sorry, Iron Maiden fans)
- curse at deaf people
- wear cotton/polyester blends
- trim your beard
- mistreat foreigners (uh-oh, MAGA)
- work on the Sabbath (not great for football players)
- sell land
- touch a woman during that time of the month, or sit on anything she's sat on

Maybe we shouldn't take Leviticus too seriously?

As an evangelical Christian, I find it hard to believe any of this is true

[brewcity77]

According to Leviticus, we're also not supposed to:

- get tattoos
- grow your hair out
- drink alcohol in holy places (tough break, Catholics)
- go to church within 33 days of giving birth to a boy; 66 days for a girl
- make metal gods (sorry, Iron Maiden fans)
- curse at deaf people
- wear cotton/polyester blends
- trim your beard
- mistreat foreigners (uh-oh, MAGA)
- work on the Sabbath (not great for football players)
- sell land
- touch a woman during that time of the month, or sit on anything she's sat on

Maybe we shouldn't take Leviticus too seriously?

This is why it's hard for me to take any religion seriously. It's all pick and choose based on things written thousands of years ago. And then you get to the story of Jesus, which was basically stolen from Egyptian mythology and the story of Osiris, written over two millennia earlier.

Osiris was born to a virgin, baptized, had 12 disciples, healed the sick, was crucified, and proclaimed savior after returning from the dead.

https://youtu.be/4lLiRr_mT24?si=M7v7ANZckmOS07AV

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

This is why it's hard for me to take any religion seriously. It's all pick and choose based on things written thousands of years ago. And then you get to the story of Jesus, which was basically stolen from Egyptian mythology and the story of Osiris, written over two millennia earlier.

Osiris was born to a virgin, baptized, had 12 disciples, healed the sick, was crucified, and proclaimed savior after returning from the dead.

https://youtu.be/4lLiRr_mT24?si=M7v7ANZckmOS07AV

First, you probably shouldn't obtain your theological knowledge from pithy videos from Bill Maher. Because his telling of the Horus story isn't really accurate. A simple Google search would show that.

Second, Jesus was a real and actual person. So was John the Baptizer. Ritual baptism was a practice in Israel at the time. The disciples too were actual people. And there Biblical and non-Biblical sources for the things that Jesus did and said. Sure there are obvious ways that parts of the story borrowed from other mythology.  But saying it was "stolen" isn't accurate.

[avid1010]

Maybe when you're a parent, you'll come to your senses, hey?

This from the guy who posted about Sam Hauser's girlfriend and her looks/sex-life.  Yeah...please lecture me on being a good parent.  In the end, your loss...I work with a number of trans colleagues...all of them great people.  You could learn something from them...

[4everwarriors]

What's weird?

My senses without being a parent seem to be a bit better than yours as a parent.

Really? You don't even know me or have any idea of my parenting skills. Hope you have a daughter someday and she takes shower in gym class with some dude who feels like a chick, hey?

#weird

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Really? You don't even know me or have any idea of my parenting skills.

Good lord. This must be the most ironic thing you have ever said here.

[4everwarriors]

Beyond weird, aina?

[Viper]

Isn't it Matthew that states Judge not, that ye be not judged, except after 5 years?

4.5 🤣

[rocket surgeon]

Good lord. This must be the most ironic thing you have ever said here.

"ironic" ???  where's the irony? 

[Skatastrophy]

Punched back at wades in the Juxtaposition thread. Now, Fluffy BM piles on. Shocking how many schmucks on Scoop know all about me.🤪

It's pretty easy to get a feeling of people's character based on how they treat strangers on a message board.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

"ironic" ???  where's the irony? 

The fact you can't figure it out says A TON about your observational and intellectual abilities.

[4everwarriors]

This from the guy who posted about Sam Hauser's girlfriend and her looks/sex-life.  Yeah...please lecture me on being a good parent.  In the end, your loss...I work with a number of trans colleagues...all of them great people.  You could learn something from them...

You're so astute. Show me where I've commented on Hauser's choice in women, hey?

#bringiton

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

#bringiton

LOL, the guy whose been acting like a clown on here for nearly 20 years is all of the sudden Mr. Tough Guy. 

[Viper]

Regarding Leviticus, Jesus explicitly stated that he was replacing the Old Testament with his gospel. Additionally, Leviticus doesnt address transgenderism, it addresses homosexuality. There is a passage in dueteronomy that says crossdressing is a sin but doesnt address other forms of gender nonconformity.

Regrading Paul, he doesnt actually address transgenderism, he addresses homosexuality. Also while he was one of the great leaders of the early church, and I do value his perspective, he was a man who did not know Jesus prior to the crucifixtion. When i find that Pauls writings are in conflict with Jesus' gospel of love and acceptance,  I defer to Jesus.

Why do you find LGBTQ "lifestyles" distasteful?

oh, ok, Jesus didn't address trans. As for the Apostle Paul and his writings, sure...but in totality ...I find Scripture, both Old and New Testaments, to be the inspired word of God, without error in the original writings, the complete revealing of His will for our salvation (even 82), and the final authority for all Christian faith and life.  You agree? Paul's writings are significant, of course...and from what I've just stated you should be able to decipher my distaste for the LGBTQ lifestyle and our current world attempt at normalizing what is not intended by God. (not intended based on...God's word). Do I dislike the PERSON that might be gay? Absolutely not. Lifestyle? Yes.
Man did this thing detour from...game plans and free throws. No matta, all good.

[Uncle Rico]

Really? You don't even know me or have any idea of my parenting skills. Hope you have a daughter someday and she takes shower in gym class with some dude who feels like a chick, hey?

#weird

That's easily the biggest problem facing daughters across America today.  Easily.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

oh, ok, Jesus didn't address trans. As for the Apostle Paul and his writings, sure...but in totality ...I find Scripture, both Old and New Testaments, to be the inspired word of God, without error in the original writings, the complete revealing of His will for our salvation (even 82), and the final authority for all Christian faith and life.  You agree? Paul's writings are significant, of course...and from what I've just stated you should be able to decipher my distaste for the LGBTQ lifestyle and our current world attempt at normalizing what is not intended by God. (not intended based on...God's word). Do I dislike the PERSON that might be gay? Absolutely not. Lifestyle? Yes.
Man did this thing detour from...game plans and free throws. No matta, all good.

I do not believe the Bible is "without error," nor do I believe it is the "final authority" for all Christian faith and life. Christianity is a faith-based religion. Not a code-based one.

[Viper]

What's the difference between "discriminate" and "not accept?"

how's this...I find you odd. I would not shun you, or banish you, or dismiss you or even dislike you or want harm to come to you because I find you odd, I just don't care for your oddness.
Question. Don't have a job? You post non stop all the time. What's up with that? What? Odd.

[4everwarriors]

LOL, the guy whose been acting like a clown on here for nearly 20 years is all of the sudden Mr. Tough Guy.

And, you've read every one of my 16,081 posts, aina?

[Viper]

This from the guy who posted about Sam Hauser's girlfriend and her looks/sex-life.  Yeah...please lecture me on being a good parent.  In the end, your loss...I work with a number of trans colleagues...all of them great people.  You could learn something from them...

out of your lane. Did Rocket say a trans isn't a good person?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

how's this...I find you odd. I would not shun you, or banish you, or dismiss you or even dislike you or want harm to come to you because I find you odd, I just don't care for your oddness.
Question. Don't have a job? You post non stop all the time. What's up with that? What? Odd.

I am amazingly multi-talented and efficient.

Anyway if you advocate for anti-oddness type laws and policies, that's the same as shunning and banishing.   

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

And, you've read every one of my 16,081 posts, aina?

Only the ones that were informative and interesting. It took about 15 seconds.

[4everwarriors]

I'll take the "over," hey?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

I'll take the "over," hey?

I'm sure you would.