Quite The Juxtaposition

[dgies9156]

Brother dgies9156:
If it alleviates your pain, I will let you know the game I attended was Game 4 . Lou Brock opened up the game with a 440 Foot Homer to Dead Center at Tiger Stadium off Denny McClain and The Red Birds won 10-1

Brother Herm:

That was a tough World Series. As a youngster, I took a lot of crap after the Cardinals choked.


That said, that Tiger team was incredible. Lolich outpitched Gibson in game 7 and Detroit was just better.

That was a great Cardinal team but an even greater Tiger team.

[rocket surgeon]

Rocket.

pretty lame sully but i must have been on your mind and you've been straining to find someplace to insert me

shows you really care...how sweet

[Viper]

You kept discussing the topic for multiple posts, but dodged answering this question.

And then dodged it again.

Because it harms nobody.

just sent you a PM rather than risk a lock here.

[Viper]

Nailed it.

Erin Andrews says hey

[rocket surgeon]

Erin Andrews says hey

  didn't he show some misogyny at her?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

no, I don't think discrimination is acceptable, in any form against any individual or group. If I implied that, my error. Disagreement with is not discrimination. Agree?

Kinda? I mean you can disagree that's it's a route you would, take but still believe in their right to take it.

[Uncle Rico]

  didn't he show some misogyny at her?

When you're a star, they just let you

[Viper]

  didn't he show some misogyny at her?

it would seem so

[4everwarriors]

Funny enough, a friend of mine sent me this trailer today.  Looks awesome.  I hope she gets the chance to play in a women's adult rec basketball league if she desires to do so.  We should be more accepting in this world.  If changing gender makes someone happy, I don't get why that's a problem for other people.  It's harming nobody.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRZ1ELeGepo&t=3s

Weird, aina?

[4everwarriors]

This is great.

Who does a "chick w/diick" harm?

Maybe when you're a parent, you'll come to your senses, hey?

[Uncle Rico]

This feels like an eventual thread ender, and I'm not religious, but if you believe in God, it is inconsistent not to believe that trans is not part of their plan.

First, you would have to believe that your god created those individuals. In doing so, they imbued those individuals with the belief that their gender identity did not match their assigned sex at birth. Further, if you believe this god created the world and mankind, then they included in that creation the mental acuity in humanity to allow trans surgeries & the scientific laws that have allowed not just trans identification but surgery to match that identity.

Unless you believe your god is so impotent that his creation has been corrupted and they either no longer care or don't have the power to influence his creation.

Ultimately, either trans people are a part of your god's plan and should be embraced and empowered as children of said god, or that god is so weak that I'm not sure why anyone would bother worshipping them.

I suppose there are other possibilities; the devil also exists and is simply more powerful than your god, or your god once had influence but abandoned a failed creation, but I'm not sure how any of those would make someone feel better about their religion.

Nailed it

[wadesworld]

Weird, aina?

What's weird?

Maybe when you're a parent, you'll come to your senses, hey?

My senses without being a parent seem to be a bit better than yours as a parent.

[Uncle Rico]

I wonder if Brad had any idea how this thread would devolve?

[Lennys Tap]

I wonder if Brad had any idea how this thread would devolve?

And as an Evangelical Christian you would never participate in the  devolution of a thread

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

I prefer to right turn back to hoops...but I'll ask this...Is trans part of God's plan or a product of this imperfect world? Respectfully curious of your reply.

I was just pointing out that Jeremiah 1:5 would not be an appropriate verse to quote if your argument is that being trans is not part of God's plan since it says the opposite.

But since you asked, I don't know. Jesus makes no mention of trans individuals in his gospel. I think it's arrogant of any human to try to claim to know God's will definitively on a topic that Jesus wasn't explicit on. That being said, if it was the mortal sin some claim it to be, I think Jesus would have at least mentioned it. What Jesus was explicit on was his message of love and acceptance, especially of those who are ostracized and oppressed. My instinct is that this would apply to our trans neighbors. I know that God would denounce the hatred that many direct towards them and that includes those who flippantly refer to them as "chicks with dicks". 

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Maybe when you're a parent, you'll come to your senses, hey?

I'm a parent of two kids under five. They have interacted with multiple trans individuals throughout their lives including one that is considered family to them. Are you saying that I am a bad parent?

[Uncle Rico]

And as an Evangelical Christian you would never participate in the  devolution of a thread

Wrong.  As an evangelical Christian, it is my right to devolve threads

[TSmith34, Inc.]

I'm a parent of two kids under five. They have interacted with multiple trans individuals throughout their lives including one that is considered family to them. Are you saying that I am a bad parent?

Nah, it was like 4elder reminding everyone what a unnatural carnal knowledgeing pretty boy he is. It had been a minute.

[Pakuni]

My senses without being a parent seem to be a bit better than yours as a parent.

As a sad, angry childless cat-person, you really ought to have no say in anything.

[Skatastrophy]

As a sad, angry childless cat-person, you really ought to have no say in anything.

Same

[Viper]

I was just pointing out that Jeremiah 1:5 would not be an appropriate verse to quote if your argument is that being trans is not part of God's plan since it says the opposite.

But since you asked, I don't know. Jesus makes no mention of trans individuals in his gospel. I think it's arrogant of any human to try to claim to know God's will definitively on a topic that Jesus wasn't explicit on. That being said, if it was the mortal sin some claim it to be, I think Jesus would have at least mentioned it. What Jesus was explicit on was his message of love and acceptance, especially of those who are ostracized and oppressed. My instinct is that this would apply to our trans neighbors. I know that God would denounce the hatred that many direct towards them and that includes those who flippantly refer to them as "chicks with dicks".

thx for the reply. And yeah, chicks/dicks is too hs locker room. I admit that I don't necessarily 'accept'. I don't discriminate, but acceptance?  If I find lgbtq lifestyles distasteful, using scripture as a guide...Leviticus, 1Timothy, Romans, 1Corinthians & so on, can I accept? I accept the person but not the ways of that person? That's a tough one. My weakness, maybe. Anyway, back to hoops. What's the original topic of this thread?...Hacking on 82, maybe?

[lawdog77]

thx for the reply. And yeah, chicks/dicks is too hs locker room. I admit that I don't necessarily 'accept'. I don't discriminate, but acceptance?  If I find lgbtq lifestyles distasteful, using scripture as a guide...Leviticus, 1Timothy, Romans, 1Corinthians & so on, can I accept? I accept the person but not the ways of that person? That's a tough one. My weakness, maybe. Anyway, back to hoops. What's the original topic of this thread?...Hacking on 82, maybe?

Isn't it Matthew that states Judge not, that ye be not judged, except after 5 years?

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

thx for the reply. And yeah, chicks/dicks is too hs locker room. I admit that I don't necessarily 'accept'. I don't discriminate, but acceptance?  If I find lgbtq lifestyles distasteful, using scripture as a guide...Leviticus, 1Timothy, Romans, 1Corinthians & so on, can I accept? I accept the person but not the ways of that person? That's a tough one. My weakness, maybe. Anyway, back to hoops. What's the original topic of this thread?...Hacking on 82, maybe?

Regarding Leviticus, Jesus explicitly stated that he was replacing the Old Testament with his gospel. Additionally, Leviticus doesnt address transgenderism, it addresses homosexuality. There is a passage in dueteronomy that says crossdressing is a sin but doesnt address other forms of gender nonconformity.

Regrading Paul, he doesnt actually address transgenderism, he addresses homosexuality. Also while he was one of the great leaders of the early church, and I do value his perspective, he was a man who did not know Jesus prior to the crucifixtion. When i find that Pauls writings are in conflict with Jesus' gospel of love and acceptance,  I defer to Jesus.

Why do you find LGBTQ "lifestyles" distasteful?

[Pakuni]

According to Leviticus, we're also not supposed to:

- get tattoos
- grow your hair out
- drink alcohol in holy places (tough break, Catholics)
- go to church within 33 days of giving birth to a boy; 66 days for a girl
- make metal gods (sorry, Iron Maiden fans)
- curse at deaf people
- wear cotton/polyester blends
- trim your beard
- mistreat foreigners (uh-oh, MAGA)
- work on the Sabbath (not great for football players)
- sell land
- touch a woman during that time of the month, or sit on anything she's sat on

Maybe we shouldn't take Leviticus too seriously?

[wadesworld]

As a sad, angry childless cat-person, you really ought to have no say in anything.

True, true.  I should probably avoid becoming a parent.  My children will be raised to accept others as they are and offer kindness to people who are different than them.  In other words, they will be very dangerous to the human race.

According to Leviticus, we're also not supposed to:

- get tattoos
- grow your hair out
- drink alcohol in holy places (tough break, Catholics)
- go to church within 33 days of giving birth to a boy; 66 days for a girl
- make metal gods (sorry, Iron Maiden fans)
- curse at deaf people
- wear cotton/polyester blends
- trim your beard
- mistreat foreigners (uh-oh, MAGA)
- work on the Sabbath (not great for football players)
- sell land
- touch a woman during that time of the month, or sit on anything she's sat on

Maybe we shouldn't take Leviticus too seriously?

Interesting that people would pick and choose what to follow and preach on MUScoop based on what fits their agenda.