The return of EVs thread

[NCMUFan]

Anyone have any opinion, comments or thoughts on the 2023 Chevy Bolt?

[NCMUFan]

Has anyone run into the Dealer keeping the IRS tax credit?
From Car & Driver:
Buyer beware: This is an easy scam. Get a copy of the bill of sale the dealer sends to the IRS and the confirmation the IRS sends to the dealer. Be certain the cash or discount on the final purchase price is correct. Current IRS guidance does not appear to penalize a dealer from keeping some or all of the credit.
https://www.caranddriver.com/shopping-advice/a32586259/how-ev-tax-credits-work/

[jesmu84]

Anyone have any opinion, comments or thoughts on the 2023 Chevy Bolt?

It's a great EV for in-town driving.

[PBRme]

RIVN stock was up 9% yesterday and is up 40% premarket today after the joint venture with VW was announced.

VW tying in with Rivian for their "software"

Does the Rivian software cheat too??

[Skatastrophy]

VW tying in with Rivian for their "software"

Does the Rivian software cheat too??

That's a great point. How are Rivian vehicles passing emissions? Probably VW software causing them to blow 0s.

[#UnleashSean]

VW tying in with Rivian for their "software"

Does the Rivian software cheat too??

If I can go 2/2 in cars being bought back for more then I bought them for, I'm all game.

[MU82]

Phew! Looks like I sold TSLA just in time!

https://seekingalpha.com/news/4123722-tesla-falls-7-on-reports-that-the-robotaxi-event-is-delayed-until-october

[MU82]

Hilarious video about racoons mistaking Cybertrucks for dumpsters ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-SwuUh5H4k

[Scoop Snoop]

We have a stable and I'm thinking maybe it is time to get some horses again. Even with the vet bills, buying enough hay to make it through the winter, the poop scooping, etc. it may make more sense than dealing with all the auto expenses. It would take a while to get to town, but I'm in no hurry.

[MU82]

Edmunds is test-driving a Cybertruck for a future review.

Things are not going well.

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/tesla-cybertruck-steering-failed-again.html/?

[lawdog77]

heard on NPR that China is building an EV factory in  Turkey

[tower912]

Ford is convinced they can build small, profitable EVs using next generation batteries.   As I read it, embracing the around town second car mentality.  A mid term future where households have an ICE vehicle for trips and a zippy EV for shorter, daily drives.

[muwarrior69]

Ford is convinced they can build small, profitable EVs using next generation batteries.   As I read it, embracing the around town second car mentality.  A mid term future where households have an ICE vehicle for trips and a zippy EV for shorter, daily drives.

No argument from me. I just don't want to be told what kind of car I can buy.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

No argument from me. I just don't want to be told what kind of car I can buy.

No one is doing that. There aren't plans for that to happen.

[tower912]

No argument from me. I just don't want to be told what kind of car I can buy.

Random, not random.

[MU82]

No argument from me. I just don't want to be told what kind of car I can buy.

Sorry, but you have to buy a 1973 Chevy Chevette.

[jesmu84]

No argument from me. I just don't want to be told what kind of car I can buy.

Has anyone suggested that?

[WarriorFan]

Just bought another car with a V8.  I own lots more stock in petroleum companies than I do in Tesla.

[lawdog77]

Has anyone suggested that?

Well, in some states they are thinking of eliminating the ability to buy gas powered cars. But at muwarrior69's age, he probably shouldn't be driving then.

[JWags85]

Well, in some states they are thinking of eliminating the ability to buy gas powered cars. But at muwarrior69's age, he probably shouldn't be driving then.

Yea its not some crazy conspiracy theory, I can see it happening somewhere like California in the next 5-10 years.  But it being a far reaching a national mandate or the like isn't anywhere on the horizon even in Europe, much less the US.

[BrewCity83]

Canada has already done it, by 2035.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-electric-vehicles-2035-1.7063993#:~:text=The%20end%20of%20the%20road,gasoline%20or%20diesel%20in%202035.

[Skatastrophy]

Yea its not some crazy conspiracy theory, I can see it happening somewhere like California in the next 5-10 years.  But it being a far reaching a national mandate or the like isn't anywhere on the horizon even in Europe, much less the US.

They are already doing this with emissions standards at the state/local level. I've spent time and money evading those.

Agreed that there likely won't be a national mandate.

[JWags85]

Canada has already done it, by 2035.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-electric-vehicles-2035-1.7063993#:~:text=The%20end%20of%20the%20road,gasoline%20or%20diesel%20in%202035.

The EU originally did this as well but then walked it back.  Lets see if Canada does the same

[Pakuni]

Yea its not some crazy conspiracy theory, I can see it happening somewhere like California in the next 5-10 years.  But it being a far reaching a national mandate or the like isn't anywhere on the horizon even in Europe, much less the US.

And to be clear, these proposed bans are on the sale of gas-powered vehicles, not ownership/possession. So, if you're living San Diego, buying a diesel Mercedes is going to get a whole lot less convenient, but not against the law.

[lawdog77]

And to be clear, these proposed bans are on the sale of gas-powered vehicles, not ownership/possession. So, if you're living San Diego, buying a diesel Mercedes is going to get a whole lot less convenient, but not against the law.

It will have to pass the zero emissions test in the future in order to be on the road, so there's that