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MuggsyB

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MU all-time defensive team?
« on: June 18, 2024, 06:19:07 PM »
What's our top 7?  Ty. 
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2024, 06:38:43 PM »
I won't go back as far as some, but here would be mine off the top of my head:

PG - Dominic James, elite man defender, understood team defense, amazing athlete and defender at his size
SG - Dwyane Wade, insanely disruptive, the best 6'3" shot blocker in basketball history, covered a ton of defensive deficiencies on the F4 team
SF - Jimmy Butler, used his length well, consistently great defender, his lockdown of Tu Holloway was the stuff of legends
PF - Jae Crowder, much of this is his sheer will on the defensive end, I'm not sure anyone ever played harder than Jae did
C - Jim McIlvaine, the only DPOY in Marquette history

B1 - Stevie Mitchell, can guard anyone on the perimeter and has an endless motor, hand is always on the ball, tenacious
B2 - Oso Ighodaro, he might actually be the best individual defender on this list, but I'm not starting him over our DPOY, the best center Marquette has had since Mac
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2024, 06:54:34 PM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 18, 2024, 06:38:43 PM
I won't go back as far as some, but here would be mine off the top of my head:

PG - Dominic James, elite man defender, understood team defense, amazing athlete and defender at his size
SG - Dwyane Wade, insanely disruptive, the best 6'3" shot blocker in basketball history, covered a ton of defensive deficiencies on the F4 team
SF - Jimmy Butler, used his length well, consistently great defender, his lockdown of Tu Holloway was the stuff of legends
PF - Jae Crowder, much of this is his sheer will on the defensive end, I'm not sure anyone ever played harder than Jae did
C - Jim McIlvaine, the only DPOY in Marquette history

B1 - Stevie Mitchell, can guard anyone on the perimeter and has an endless motor, hand is always on the ball, tenacious
B2 - Oso Ighodaro, he might actually be the best individual defender on this list, but I'm not starting him over our DPOY, the best center Marquette has had since Mac

Sounds right to me. B3 Derrick Wilson. Just to get Ners fired up.
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2024, 08:07:45 PM »
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2024, 08:11:16 PM »
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2024, 08:15:04 PM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 18, 2024, 06:38:43 PM
I won't go back as far as some, but here would be mine off the top of my head:

PG - Dominic James, elite man defender, understood team defense, amazing athlete and defender at his size
SG - Dwyane Wade, insanely disruptive, the best 6'3" shot blocker in basketball history, covered a ton of defensive deficiencies on the F4 team
SF - Jimmy Butler, used his length well, consistently great defender, his lockdown of Tu Holloway was the stuff of legends
PF - Jae Crowder, much of this is his sheer will on the defensive end, I'm not sure anyone ever played harder than Jae did
C - Jim McIlvaine, the only DPOY in Marquette history

B1 - Stevie Mitchell, can guard anyone on the perimeter and has an endless motor, hand is always on the ball, tenacious
B2 - Oso Ighodaro, he might actually be the best individual defender on this list, but I'm not starting him over our DPOY, the best center Marquette has had since Mac
Going back further…. Mandy Johnson in in 80s was a defensive force at guard.  At PF, Bo Ellis was a very good defender. Always remember his battles with Alex English. Bo was looong.
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2024, 08:49:39 PM »
Quote from: Nukem2 on June 18, 2024, 08:15:04 PM
Going back further…. Mandy Johnson in in 80s was a defensive force at guard.  At PF, Bo Ellis was a very good defender. Always remember his battles with Alex English. Bo was looong.
Yes…Mandy Johnson.
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2024, 08:53:06 PM »
Michael Wilson - still the all-time single season steals record - 89 in 1980-81.
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2024, 09:00:58 PM »
Mandy Johnson is an all time MU defender. While I am not a big Doc fan, he was an excellent defender.

Agree with Nukem, Bo was a very good defender, plus an outstanding rebounder.
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2024, 09:29:39 PM »
Jerel McNeal was Big East Defensive POY
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2024, 09:31:35 PM »
Quote from: marqfan22 on June 18, 2024, 09:29:39 PM
Jerel McNeal was Big East Defensive POY

James was better. IMO James defense on the perimeter allowed McNeal to take the chances his did defensively.
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2024, 11:26:47 PM »
The list starts and ends with Mandy Johnson. The pride of Jersey City!
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #12 on: June 19, 2024, 03:45:23 AM »
Quote from: Goose on June 18, 2024, 09:00:58 PM
Mandy Johnson is an all time MU defender. While I am not a big Doc fan, he was an excellent defender.

Agree with Nukem, Bo was a very good defender, plus an outstanding rebounder.
Absolutely Mandy.
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2024, 03:51:00 AM »
Any luv out der for #22 or #34, hey?
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2024, 05:52:12 AM »
Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 18, 2024, 09:31:35 PM
James was better. IMO James defense on the perimeter allowed McNeal to take the chances his did defensively.

James was, and I think there's an argument Wes was as well. Jerel was great at creating turnovers, but gambled a lot and I don't think was as good a man defender as the other two. That's the reason I nodded to Wade, because if I'm going to take someone because of disruption, give me the guy who was also a shot-blocker.
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2024, 07:31:40 AM »
Quote from: brewcity77 on June 18, 2024, 06:38:43 PM
I won't go back as far as some, but here would be mine off the top of my head:

PG - Dominic James, elite man defender, understood team defense, amazing athlete and defender at his size
SG - Dwyane Wade, insanely disruptive, the best 6'3" shot blocker in basketball history, covered a ton of defensive deficiencies on the F4 team
SF - Jimmy Butler, used his length well, consistently great defender, his lockdown of Tu Holloway was the stuff of legends
PF - Jae Crowder, much of this is his sheer will on the defensive end, I'm not sure anyone ever played harder than Jae did
C - Jim McIlvaine, the only DPOY in Marquette history

B1 - Stevie Mitchell, can guard anyone on the perimeter and has an endless motor, hand is always on the ball, tenacious
B2 - Oso Ighodaro, he might actually be the best individual defender on this list, but I'm not starting him over our DPOY, the best center Marquette has had since Mac
Love this list, would add Jerel McNeal and Roney Eford to the bench.  Agree that James was better, but McNeal was still very good.  Eford provided much need agility on a very slow team (McIlvaine, Logtermann, Key, Miller).

Marquette has had lots of good defensive players over the years.  Whitehead and Ellis were very good, Mandy Johnson and Michael Wilson were a great defensive backcourt, and there are lots more.
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2024, 07:52:07 AM »
Chones.
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #17 on: June 19, 2024, 08:01:48 AM »
I didn't see him at Marquette, but Dean Meminger was an outstanding defensive guard in the NBA. So I have a feeling he was a pretty good defender for the Warriors, too.
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #18 on: June 19, 2024, 08:02:33 AM »
Quote from: MU82 on June 19, 2024, 08:01:48 AM
I didn't see him at Marquette, but Dean Meminger was an outstanding defensive guard in the NBA. So I have a feeling he was a pretty good defender for the Warriors, too.

Well, he was guarding janitors and drifters in those days
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #19 on: June 19, 2024, 08:11:57 AM »
Defense is over rated.  Just score more points.
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #20 on: June 19, 2024, 08:53:10 AM »
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Chones.

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Did he erase the paint for our opponents? 
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #21 on: June 19, 2024, 10:01:22 AM »
Quote from: tower912 on June 18, 2024, 08:11:16 PM
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #22 on: June 19, 2024, 10:20:42 AM »
IMO, James and Mandy are the two best pure defenders in MU history. I put Mandy over James but enjoyed watching James play defense more than watching Mandy. I used to love watching Alvin Robertson play defense in the NBA and James brought similar excitement to defense for me.
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #23 on: June 19, 2024, 11:27:17 AM »
Lucas?
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Re: MU all-time defensive team?
« Reply #24 on: June 19, 2024, 11:30:27 AM »
Quote from: Nukem2 on June 18, 2024, 08:15:04 PM
Going back further…. Mandy Johnson in in 80s was a defensive force at guard. 

Except when he was covering David Rivers.
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