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El Guerrero 2

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Re: Incoming freshmen
« Reply #25 on: June 03, 2024, 05:03:05 PM »
Right. I said he was “better in rotations.”  Team defense.

Whatever. That is still silly.

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Re: Incoming freshmen
« Reply #26 on: June 03, 2024, 05:13:01 PM »
Whatever. That is still silly.

???  Team defense is “silly?”  Odd take.
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Re: Incoming freshmen
« Reply #27 on: June 03, 2024, 05:15:25 PM »
Right. I said he was “better in rotations.”  Team defense.
Source?

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« Reply #28 on: June 03, 2024, 05:28:03 PM »
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Re: Incoming freshmen
« Reply #29 on: June 03, 2024, 05:36:57 PM »
Me.
So no quantifiable numbers on feild goal percentage after a rotation, or anything? Just the eye test? You, sir, are no Paint Touches!

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« Reply #31 on: June 03, 2024, 06:17:55 PM »
Giddyup.  Time to learn the new faces.
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Re: Incoming freshmen
« Reply #32 on: June 03, 2024, 08:16:54 PM »
Source?

According to Evan Miya, while on the floor with the other 4 players:

Zaide allowed 91.6 PPP
Jop allowed 91.4 PPP

Team leader was Oso at 86.7
Team worst was Ben Gold at 95.4

So basically Zaide and Jop were middle of the road defenders according to the numbers.

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« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2024, 11:14:26 PM »
I'd expect freshman Chase Ross minutes for Owens. Freshman Ben Gold minutes for Parham.
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« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2024, 11:25:21 PM »
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Re: Incoming freshmen
« Reply #35 on: June 04, 2024, 12:30:17 AM »
I’m worried it has less to do with defensive ability and just Shaka’s disinclination to play freshman a lot. Lowery was our second best defender last year and Shaka still played him less than he deserved.

I'm gonna go out in a limb here and guess that our coach has a plan.  It's almost as if there's situations in a game where different strengths work better than other.  Idk though, I'm dumb

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« Reply #36 on: June 04, 2024, 06:14:02 AM »
Mark me down in the poll as being in favor of incoming freshmen.
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« Reply #37 on: June 04, 2024, 07:01:57 AM »
Mark me down in the poll as being in favor of incoming freshmen.
much better than outgoing freshman?

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« Reply #38 on: June 04, 2024, 07:13:02 AM »
I thought it was a pro/con poll.
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« Reply #39 on: June 04, 2024, 07:27:13 AM »
I thought it was a pro/con poll.
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« Reply #40 on: June 04, 2024, 09:00:05 AM »
I expect this year's freshmen to play more than last year's freshmen did. They may even play more this year vs. the sophomores.

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« Reply #41 on: June 04, 2024, 09:26:59 AM »
I agree with TAMU on the minutes for the two true freshmen this year. Also agree with bilsu that Owens might get more minutes than the sophomores this year. IMO, we are going to see a more up-tempo, pressure D and will see a lot of guys getting minutes.

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« Reply #42 on: June 04, 2024, 10:12:46 AM »
much better than outgoing freshman?
Outgoing freshmen are sophomores.
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« Reply #43 on: June 04, 2024, 10:39:18 AM »
I agree with TAMU on the minutes for the two true freshmen this year. Also agree with bilsu that Owens might get more minutes than the sophomores this year. IMO, we are going to see a more up-tempo, pressure D and will see a lot of guys getting minutes.

It's going to be a ton of fun to watch this team come together this season Goose. I see this team in terms of two seasons before they really gel and have a good chance at least a FF if not a natty. If they make me eat my words at the end of this coming season by exceeding my "pretty damn good" expectations, I will love it. Patience! Shaka is a builder, not a one-year "flash in the pan" kind of guy.

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Re: Incoming freshmen
« Reply #44 on: June 04, 2024, 10:56:59 AM »
Snoop

I have been saying for two years that TK and Oso changed the face of the team and style of play to some degree. IMO, this the first year that most of the team is made of up Shaka type players and I think it is going to be a different type of exciting this year. Looking forward to seeing long, athletic guys on the floor at the same time.

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Re: Incoming freshmen
« Reply #45 on: June 04, 2024, 11:02:20 AM »
Those Sorinex plates are so damn cool. I would spend an irresponsible amount of money for a set.

Anyone know someone in the program who might be able to pawn em off whenever they inevitably get replaced?

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« Reply #46 on: June 04, 2024, 11:05:46 AM »
I have been saying for two years that TK and Oso changed the face of the team and style of play to some degree. IMO, this the first year that most of the team is made of up Shaka type players and I think it is going to be a different type of exciting this year. Looking forward to seeing long, athletic guys on the floor at the same time.

It will be interesting on offense to see how they play. Can Ben be an effective rim runner? Will Kam be able to operate the PNR at a decent clip? I think we'll see a ton more iso than we're used to.

Defensively I think they have a chance to be consistently more disruptive than past teams.

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« Reply #47 on: June 04, 2024, 11:09:38 AM »
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I have my fingers on being disruptive on defense which drives the offense. I think we see less PNR, but not ready to say we can expect more iso. IMO, it is going to look different than the games TK was out last season.

Speaking of TK, I miss him already.

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« Reply #48 on: June 04, 2024, 11:22:12 AM »
I see different PnR.   Pick and pops with Gold and Joplin.   The inverted PnR with Gold and a guard.   I think Gold is actually more offensively skilled than Oso.  This will lead to more options.   
Gold sets the high screen for Kam.  Chase and Joplin in the corners.   They read the defense and Gold flares to the 3 pt line against Kalkbrenner drop coverage.   Kalkbrenner or a rotating guard closes.  Ben puts it on the floor and now there is 6'11 and 250 going downhill.  Who helps?  Ben finds the open shooter.
   
Bottom line is I see opportunities.
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« Reply #49 on: June 04, 2024, 11:31:44 AM »
Benny's gonna have to make a jump if those opportunities are to come to fruition. So far he's shown flashes of being able to use a ball fake and drive, but it's been almost exclusively pick and pop.

Here's hoping he's ready for it!

 

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