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Next up:  @ Xavier

Marquette
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Marquette @
Xavier
Date/Time: Dec 21, 2024 11:00am
TV: Fox
Schedule for 2024-25
Butler
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GoFastAndWin

Not my feeling. That of the "Field of 68 Podcast" starting at 10am central today, Wednesday May 30. Tune in and comment.

cheebs09

Considering people are searching for content, all I can say is "meh." Tax forms are the most exciting topic in MUBB right now.

tower912

Two ways MU does not make the tournament.
1.  An epic string of injuries
2.  0 development among the young players.

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: GoFastAndWin on May 29, 2024, 09:33:52 AM
Not my feeling. That of the "Field of 68 Podcast" starting at 10am central today, Wednesday May 30. Tune in and comment.

I am scared and afraid of what the season will bring. I suggest we skip it entirely and come back in 2025.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

StillAWarrior

Never wrestle with a pig.  You both get dirty, and the pig likes it.

muwarrior4life88

Goodman is high, ridiculous take IMHO. These pundits are caught up in program needing tranfer portal guys to succeed, just plain
stupid.

MU82

They're making guesses. Some might be right. Or wrong.

But we're talking about their college basketball take in late May, so I guess they've done their job.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: GoFastAndWin on May 29, 2024, 09:33:52 AM
Not my feeling. That of the "Field of 68 Podcast" starting at 10am central today, Wednesday May 30. Tune in and comment.

Damn, I thought today was only the 29th
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

GoFastAndWin

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on May 29, 2024, 10:39:46 AM
Damn, I thought today was only the 29th

Oops. My bad. To any who missed this, I would say, don't even bother looking it up. Dearth of off-season podcast material for sure.

DFW HOYA

It's May and it's just idle conversation.

That said, the conversation appears to be around three tiers being set up for 2024-25:

Well Positioned for NCAA
UConn
Creighton
Xavier (if Hunter and Freemantle stay healthy)

Positioned for NCAA Consideration
Marquette
St. John's
Providence
Butler

Not Positioned for NCAA Consideration
Villanova
Seton Hall
Georgetown
DePaul



MurphysTillClose

Dauster is a tool who would still pledge a frat. Goodman is the ugliest human covering college sports and loves a hot take. 

But I personally did enjoy that "no one thinks MU will be that good" vibe 22/23 had. Sign me up for more doubters in 24/25.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: DFW HOYA on May 29, 2024, 11:39:12 AM
It's May and it's just idle conversation.

That said, the conversation appears to be around three tiers being set up for 2024-25:

Well Positioned for NCAA
UConn
Creighton
Xavier (if Hunter and Freemantle stay healthy)

Positioned for NCAA Consideration
Marquette
St. John's
Providence
Butler

Not Positioned for NCAA Consideration
Villanova
Seton Hall
Georgetown
DePaul


If Marquette stays healthy, they are a no doubt NCAA team and IMO will finish top 3.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: DFW HOYA on May 29, 2024, 11:39:12 AM
It's May and it's just idle conversation.

That said, the conversation appears to be around three tiers being set up for 2024-25:

Well Positioned for NCAA
UConn
Creighton
Xavier (if Hunter and Freemantle stay healthy)

Positioned for NCAA Consideration
Marquette
St. John's
Providence
Butler

Not Positioned for NCAA Consideration
Villanova
Seton Hall
Georgetown
DePaul

Switch MU and X, drop Butler a level, and I agree
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


brewcity77

Goodman is an idiot. His first choice for breakout star after saying that was Ben Gold & Dauster suggested David Joplin.
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jfp61

Creighton looks good, but who knows probably will be the team they always are.

Xavier won't "be healthy".
UConn, Karaban might still leave them.
St John's doesn't have shooting.
Providence can't coach offense. And no one is talking about how Bryce Hopkins might actually just suck.

But heaven forbid we need to worry about where "points" will come from outside of Kam Jones. As if points arn't just a function of play time, and all that matters is the efficency of the points.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: brewcity77 on May 29, 2024, 12:33:13 PM
Goodman is an idiot. His first choice for breakout star after saying that was Ben Gold & Dauster suggested David Joplin.

Last offseason, Jop focused on conditioning and defense.  Perhaps this offseason he will focus on polishing his offensive game.

An improved handle, maybe a post game, more iso scoring, etc.  Hopefully Jop can become more efficient while taking on a larger role.

brewcity77

Quote from: jfp61 on May 29, 2024, 12:43:25 PMBut heaven forbid we need to worry about where "points" will come from outside of Kam Jones. As if points arn't just a function of play time, and all that matters is the efficency of the points.

This is where we were two years ago when Justin and Darryl left. I think we did okay. I'm sure we will again.
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The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on May 29, 2024, 12:51:43 PM
Last offseason, Jop focused on conditioning and defense.  Perhaps this offseason he will focus on polishing his offensive game.

An improved handle, maybe a post game, more iso scoring, etc.  Hopefully Jop can become more efficient while taking on a larger role.

I'm hoping for a killer mid-range game.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

BM1090

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on May 29, 2024, 12:56:08 PM
I'm hoping for a killer mid-range game.

I actually do think we're going to see more mid range from him. But mostly in the 8-15 foot range. A fully actualized Jop hits that shot consistently, and I think Shaka gives him a shot to show that he can.

I hope he can and successful, even if it will lead to some here saying more of our team should be taking midrange shots.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: BM1090 on May 29, 2024, 01:01:00 PM
I actually do think we're going to see more mid range from him. But mostly in the 8-15 foot range. A fully actualized Jop hits that shot consistently, and I think Shaka gives him a shot to show that he can.

I hope he can and successful, even if it will lead to some here saying more of our team should be taking midrange shots.

There is zero evidence that we will see a midrange game from Jop or anyone else.  They're not going to suddenly deviate from the offense. 

PointWarrior

I'm worried for anyone who thinks Goodman says anything of intelligence...


TallTitan34

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 29, 2024, 01:06:39 PM
There is zero evidence that we will see a midrange game from Jop or anyone else.  They're not going to suddenly deviate from the offense.

I may be misremembering but I think Morsell and to a lesser extent Lewis had the green light for mid-range jumpers.  Maybe it was just the transition to the new system but maybe Shaka trusts certain guys to take them.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Joplin's game will be no different. He will just need to be better at it.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

BM1090

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on May 29, 2024, 01:06:39 PM
There is zero evidence that we will see a midrange game from Jop or anyone else.  They're not going to suddenly deviate from the offense. 

Not sure about that. You need somewhere to throw the ball end of shot clock, and it can't always be Kam. Last ten seconds I think you'll see some Jop in the wide post both facing up and posting up. I'm not sure if that stats show he's effective or not there, but he's comfortable. Doesn't rush or overthink from that spot like he does on drives.

If Chase or maybe Tre develop some ability to create their own shot then I could be way off base. But as much as Shaka (rightfully) devalues midrange, he also values not turning the ball over and featuring his upperclassmen. And you need to have guys who can get a shot up in less than ideal situations. Kam to the hoop or driving, Jop post up and mid range seem to be the best options.

I'm not saying it'll be a featured part of the offense. It won't. But I think it'll be utilized more than it has been and it'll be good for both the team and Jop. Just like it was good for the team with Morsell.

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