Tyler Kolek and Oso Ighodaro NBA Combine

[PGsHeroes32]

That statement kind of makes no sense, Noah fence. Thanks for the insider info though.

"Playing at the combine only really helps, rarely hurts"

"Koleks draft status wasn't hurt by him not playing"

I get the sentiment, but if the first part is true then the second part can't really be true.

If players are rarely hurt and only really helped by playing, then TyKo not playing at best didn't make his status worse, but more than likely or at worst affected the improvement of his status, or in other words hurt his status.

Unless he's going to the wolves in the top 15 to play the pick n roll with wemby, and his agent has a feeling or has been given the feeling that's the case, then huh?

Damn things are really going well for Minny.

They got Ant. A chance at a title. Plus Wemby on his way and a top 15 pick??

[Billy Hoyle]

That statement kind of makes no sense, Noah fence. Thanks for the insider info though.

"Playing at the combine only really helps, rarely hurts"

"Koleks draft status wasn't hurt by him not playing"

I get the sentiment, but if the first part is true then the second part can't really be true.

If players are rarely hurt and only really helped by playing, then TyKo not playing at best didn't make his status worse, but more than likely or at worst affected the improvement of his status, or in other words hurt his status.

Unless he's going to the wolves in the top 15 to play the pick n roll with wemby, and his agent has a feeling or has been given the feeling that's the case, then huh?

basically, not playing at the combine won't hurt someone or cause him to drop. Playing can launch a lesser prospect should a coach fall in love with him while watching. Kolek isn't going to drop in the minds of GMs and scouts for not playing, but someone who may not have been on a team's radar might jump up and get drafter higher than he would have (it happened when my buddy was scouting and his HC fell in love with a guy). The concern of the poster was that not playing would be seen as a negative for Kolek, which it won't.

[BM1090]

Oso raining jumpers

https://x.com/DraftExpress/status/1793668624819089755

[Herman Cain]

Oso raining jumpers

https://x.com/DraftExpress/status/1793668624819089755

An excellent display of conditioning and versatility for Oso . Hopefully the scouts view this positively.

[El Guerrero 2]

Oso raining jumpers

https://x.com/DraftExpress/status/1793668624819089755

Still has horrible form. He's 6'9 and his release point might be lower than mine somehow.

[BM1090]

Still has horrible form. He's 6'9 and his release point might be lower than mine somehow.

Yeah I mean I was mostly saying it in jest.

It is better he made them than missed them, but I doubt it impacts his draft stock at all.

[Skatastrophy]

Oso's release point is so low he should come back to Marquette for one more year

[Elonsmusk]

Still has horrible form. He's 6'9 and his release point might be lower than mine somehow.

Saw a Shawn Marion comp for Oso and thought that was an interesting comp.  Marion was a swiss army knife kind of player with a low release point on his perimeter shot too.  Oso's probably a little more athletic than Shawn Marion.

[Hards Alumni]

Saw a Shawn Marion comp for Oso and thought that was an interesting comp.  Marion was a swiss army knife kind of player with a low release point on his perimeter shot too.  Oso's probably a little more athletic than Shawn Marion.

So we had TJ McConnell and Shawn Marion on our team last year and couldn't make it out of the S16

[TSmith34, Inc.]

So we had TJ McConnell and Shawn Marion on our team last year and couldn't make it out of the S16

Worse, it was Stockton and Malone.

[swoopem]

Nash and Amarie

But they didn't accomplish anything in the playoffs either 

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Saw a Shawn Marion comp for Oso and thought that was an interesting comp.  Marion was a swiss army knife kind of player with a low release point on his perimeter shot too.  Oso's probably a little more athletic than Shawn Marion.

Oh man, I don't know about Oso being more athletic than Shawn Marion.

[Hards Alumni]

Oh man, I don't know about Oso being more athletic than Shawn Marion.

They're both freaks.  Check out Oso's combine athletic numbers.  They're actually insane.

I'd love to have seen Shawns... did they measure them the same way back then?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

They're both freaks.  Check out Oso's combine athletic numbers.  They're actually insane.

I'd love to have seen Shawns... did they measure them the same way back then?

Right, that is why I said "I don't know." Cause Marion was very much athletic.

[Skatastrophy]

I was real happy to see Oso and Juan Toscano ran into each other at the Klutch pro day thing

https://www.instagram.com/marquette.basketball/p/C7SqZliMEVP/

[brewcity77]

So we had TJ McConnell and Shawn Marion on our team last year and couldn't make it out of the S16

But it's an improvement from 2023, when we couldn't make it TO the S16.

[Hards Alumni]

But it's an improvement from 2023, when we couldn't make it TO the S16.

[barfolomew]

Worse, it was Stockton and Malone.

TKO was the Malone comp because he couldn't read.

[brewcity77]

If we keep going one step further in the tournament every year, I'm guessing we'll all be very happy fans in 4 years.

2021 - No Tournament
2022 - First Round
2023 - Second Round
2024 - Sweet 16
2025 - Elite 8?
2026 - Final Four?
2027 - National Championship Game?
2028 - National Champs?

[Viper]

Oh man, I don't know about Oso being more athletic than Shawn Marion.

agreed. Marion could sky, had speed. Pretty solid pro. No Rony Eford, of course, but hey.

[Hards Alumni]

Offense: Very adept at moving off the ball and finding spots to receive a pass and explode for a finish. Doesn't miss around the basket. Runs the floor like a deer. A great target for lobs. Has one of the league's most awkward shooting forms' flings the ball at the rim from well in front of his chest, but sees decent (although not incredible) results as a spot-up shooter. Somewhat limited offensively--needs a great point guard to create shots for him. Lacks the ball-handling skills needed to create his own shot or pull-up off the dribble. Doesn't always seem to know his limitations. Relies very heavily on his athleticism to make plays.  Decision making can be poor at times.

Defense: Extremely active and very effective thanks to his superb physical tools. Has excellent lateral quickness and recovery speed, but is also very strong for a player his size. Capable of defending multiple positions on the floor, either on the perimeter or battling inside. Very good at getting in the passing lanes and igniting fast breaks. Also an excellent shot-blocker thanks to his superb length, timing and explosiveness. A very good rebounder as well on both ends of the floor. Has a tendency to get lost at times, misplacing his man, rotating to the wrong spots, overextending himself, and gambling excessively. Will get beat at times, or even a take a play off.

Who was this written about? 

[tower912]

Not Oso.  Criticizes his ball handling, praises his rebounding and shot blocking.

[MU82]

So we had TJ McConnell and Shawn Marion on our team last year and couldn't make it out of the S16

And Kentucky probably had 5 pros, including at least one lottery pick, and now Coach Cal is a Razorback.

[MuMark]

If we keep going one step further in the tournament every year, I'm guessing we'll all be very happy fans in 4 years.

2021 - No Tournament
2022 - First Round
2023 - Second Round
2024 - Sweet 16
2025 - Elite 8?
2026 - Final Four?
2027 - National Championship Game?
2028 - National Champs?

I'd be a very happy fan in 2025........why wait?

[MU82]

Kolek gets a first-round consideration in an article in The Athletic about older guys in the draft. Here's the passage:

Six players 22 and older seem to have a decent chance to go in the first 20 picks (they're in the top 30 of The Athletic's latest big board), though in a draft as murky as this one, it's hard to be certain.

Tennessee wing Dalton Knecht might go in the top 10. Providence guard Devin Carter just tagged an impressive junior year with some strong testing at the draft combine. Purdue center Zach Edey is one of the most interesting players in the draft and projected to be a fringe lottery pick. Marquette point guard Tyler Kolek, Colorado forward Tristan da Silva and Creighton wing Baylor Scheierman are all projected first-round picks who could land higher than expected on draft night.

That will again bring an important question to the forefront as teams make their decisions: Does age matter in the draft?

Players who have been selected that high at 22 years or older have not, for the most part, gone on to productive NBA careers. There have been 30 players who have been at least 22 on the day of the draft selected over the last 15 years. Of those, roughly three have become reliable starter-level players (Buddy Hield, Cam Johnson and Kelly Olynyk). Taurean Prince has consistently been a rotation player over his career. Corey Kispert, Obi Toppin and Jaime Jaquez Jr. seem to be on their way to getting there. The rest is a mixed bag.

Pretty interesting, though I'd argue that Jaquez has already ascended much higher than this.