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Author Topic: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing  (Read 27917 times)

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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #175 on: July 26, 2024, 05:35:20 PM »
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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #176 on: July 26, 2024, 05:58:03 PM »
I would like both, saw Jensen last year, has improved over the summer, think he has big upside, Ward no idea but great stats at the Peach Jam against the best high school kids in America. Jensen would be a nice pickup when Gold is gone.  Ward is going to after the two freshman in the program right now. Do you like Batemon or Stevens, do you like Clark over Kai Rogers?
I like Clark because he said yes.  Rogers had a chance and did not take it. Now MU needs versatile switchables, not more bigs.  So give me Ward. Bateman already said yes to Iowa State, so who cares?  Stevens, obviously.
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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #177 on: July 26, 2024, 06:28:36 PM »
I’d like to give Brian Wardle a chance.  The Shaka era is a bust
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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #178 on: July 26, 2024, 07:09:50 PM »
I like Clark because he said yes.  Rogers had a chance and did not take it. Now MU needs versatile switchables, not more bigs.  So give me Ward. Bateman already said yes to Iowa State, so who cares?  Stevens, obviously.

You really did not answer the question? But are those 2 from Milwaukee better than a player that did not have an offer from a Texas school or a guy with many offers?  Batemon lost got it, but was he better then Stevens time will tell.

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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #179 on: July 26, 2024, 07:42:32 PM »
I did.  I prefer Clark because he said yes.  I prefer Stevens because he hasn't committed elsewhere.


And they aren't local.to me.
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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #180 on: July 26, 2024, 07:48:59 PM »
While I certainly wouldn't have said no to Rogers, I do think Clark is a much better fit in this system. I was a bit surprised we were in on Rogers as long as we were, he just doesn't seem to fit the mold of what we're after, especially with Caedin Hamilton already in the fold. Clark looks more mobile and longer.

I would've liked Batemon, but Iowa State was in there first with strong local ties and it was just too much ground to make up. It happens.
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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #181 on: July 26, 2024, 07:56:27 PM »
Add one portal player every year where you see weaknesses moving forward. He will not do that but should.  Secondly, he has a big enough name to go after a top 20 recruit, missed on KK, tried. Thirdly, try and keep local talent here
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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #182 on: July 26, 2024, 08:33:30 PM »
Maybe Danny Hurley is just a better coach than Shaka.

And what do you think MU should do about that?
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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #183 on: July 26, 2024, 08:33:47 PM »
Maybe Danny Hurley is just a better coach than Shaka.

And what do you think MU should do about that?

Hire him
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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #184 on: July 26, 2024, 09:01:26 PM »
If you are content to be an above average team, win a game or two in the tourney, so be it.  I would like more.
I would like more too. I do feel Shaka will gets us to a FF. A lot has to go our way, of course. But we have the facilities and finances, and I think the talent will ultimately come together, so I’m optimistic.

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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #185 on: July 26, 2024, 09:06:40 PM »
MU had teams the last two season that could have made the final 4.   But they lost.     So, MU is there.   But, come tournament time, shoot a normal percentage from 3.
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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #186 on: July 27, 2024, 05:59:24 AM »
Or what?
Pretty obvious. Or Hurley keeps building that distance. Sorry you cannot figure such simple things out.
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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #187 on: July 27, 2024, 06:58:28 AM »
MU had teams the last two season that could have made the final 4.   But they lost.     So, MU is there.   But, come tournament time, shoot a normal percentage from 3.
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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #188 on: July 27, 2024, 07:03:46 AM »
But we have the facilities and finances, and I think the talent will ultimately come together, so I’m optimistic.
I'm less optimistic on the finances...

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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #189 on: July 27, 2024, 08:11:38 AM »
I would like more too. I do feel Shaka will gets us to a FF. A lot has to go our way, of course. But we have the facilities and finances, and I think the talent will ultimately come together, so I’m optimistic.

But the real question is does Shaka beat RED?
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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #190 on: July 27, 2024, 08:36:00 AM »
Pretty obvious. Or Hurley keeps building that distance. Sorry you cannot figure such simple things out.

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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #191 on: July 27, 2024, 08:40:30 AM »
I'm less optimistic on the finances...

I'll start worrying about the finances when I see actual worrisome data coupled with a trend.

The new reality is too new for any trend, and I haven't seen data suggesting Marquette can't compete.
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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #192 on: July 27, 2024, 08:47:14 AM »
I'll start worrying about the finances when I see actual worrisome data coupled with a trend.

The new reality is too new for any trend, and I haven't seen data suggesting Marquette can't compete.

MU pays there players well, can compete but can they compete like Arkansas or Kentucky not sure. 

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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #193 on: July 27, 2024, 09:08:31 AM »
I'll start worrying about the finances when I see actual worrisome data coupled with a trend.

The new reality is too new for any trend, and I haven't seen data suggesting Marquette can't compete.

I agree, but money does not always equate to Championships; just look at the Dodgers and Yankees.

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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #194 on: July 27, 2024, 09:45:00 AM »
Pretty obvious. Or Hurley keeps building that distance. Sorry you cannot figure such simple things out.

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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #195 on: July 27, 2024, 11:26:36 AM »
I'll start worrying about the finances when I see actual worrisome data coupled with a trend.

The new reality is too new for any trend, and I haven't seen data suggesting Marquette can't compete.
I'm not sure Shaka doesn't take a swing at the portal or a 5 star if the money is there.  I've seen and heard enough to be concerned.  Not that MU can't compete, but they aren't top 25 in payroll.  That's mostly coming from a discussion with a former Crean era player....could certainly be poor info.

I think Shaka is taking the right approach given MU's financial situation, but I admittedly don't know the specifics.  It would be interesting if things were more transparent with the $...I think people would view things differently.

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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #196 on: July 27, 2024, 11:36:43 AM »
I'm not sure Shaka doesn't take a swing at the portal or a 5 star if the money is there.  I've seen and heard enough to be concerned.  Not that MU can't compete, but they aren't top 25 in payroll.  That's mostly coming from a discussion with a former Crean era player....could certainly be poor info.

I think Shaka is taking the right approach given MU's financial situation, but I admittedly don't know the specifics.  It would be interesting if things were more transparent with the $...I think people would view things differently.

I see the foundation of Shaka's team and culture being chemistry, and someone coming in making $1 million+ before putting on a MU uniform would upend that, as it has other teams (Seton Hall last season, for example, SLU a few years ago, Fresno State women, Miami).
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Re: Transfer Portal vs. Recruiting, retaining , developing
« Reply #197 on: July 27, 2024, 12:26:07 PM »
I'm not sure Shaka doesn't take a swing at the portal or a 5 star if the money is there.  I've seen and heard enough to be concerned.  Not that MU can't compete, but they aren't top 25 in payroll.  That's mostly coming from a discussion with a former Crean era player....could certainly be poor info.

I think Shaka is taking the right approach given MU's financial situation, but I admittedly don't know the specifics.  It would be interesting if things were more transparent with the $...I think people would view things differently.
If what you are suggesting is true, why would MUBB want transparency?
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« Reply #198 on: July 27, 2024, 02:07:10 PM »
Based on the responses, I’m comfortable repeating:

The new reality is too new for any trend, and I haven't seen data suggesting Marquette can't compete.
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« Reply #199 on: July 27, 2024, 08:10:19 PM »
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