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willie warrior

Quote from: MUfan12 on May 13, 2024, 06:52:16 PM
UConn spends $8M more/year on mens basketball, has higher NIL potential, and has won 6 titles in 25 years.

Besides that we're right there with them.
Then MU needs to step up their game. If 8 million more is accurate and more on NIL is  MU is not doing enough.
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Quote from: willie warrior on May 14, 2024, 09:21:23 AM
Then MU needs to step up their game. If 8 million more is accurate and more on NIL is  MU is not doing enough.

Then open your checkbook Captain Dung
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Quote from: willie warrior on May 14, 2024, 09:21:23 AM
Then MU needs to step up their game. If 8 million more is accurate and more on NIL is  MU is not doing enough.

Your words are like a gentle snow falling on a quiet mountaintop, followed by a tongue bath from a syphilitic hooker, Dung Willie
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

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Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 14, 2024, 09:34:15 AM
Your words are like a gentle snow falling on a quiet mountaintop, followed by a tongue bath from a syphilitic hooker, Dung Willie

THAT is quite the visual.  ;D ;D ;D

swoopem

Bring back FFP!!!

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:42:50 PM
Thats why next year should be very interesting. There are so, so many questions and as you said it will be a high wire act, betting on the development of every player not named Kam, Joplin and Mitchell.


Yep. Same as two years ago.  Betting on Kam, Stevie, Kolek, Oso and Jop to develop.  It will be interesting.  If it works Shaka will really be on a roll.  Proof of concept part two on the way!

williewarrior

Quote from: TSmith34, Inc. on May 14, 2024, 09:34:15 AM
Your words are like a gentle snow falling on a quiet mountaintop, followed by a tongue bath from a syphilitic hooker, Dung Willie
It is great that you know all about a sophomoric hopker

Uncle Rico

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tower912

Shaka's interview today was one more piece of the puzzle.   He doesn't want to prioritize an outsider over an existing player.   He is quite proud of staying out of the portal.
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Quote from: williewarrior on May 14, 2024, 07:06:52 PM
It is great that you know all about a sophomoric hopker

Like Al always said, the best thing about freshman hopkers is that they become sophomoric hopkers.

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on May 14, 2024, 08:35:52 PM
Like Al always said, the best thing about freshman hopkers is that they become sophomoric hopkers.

Pitino really went all out at Louisville by providing hopkers for players and recruits.
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Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on May 14, 2024, 08:35:52 PM
Like Al always said, the best thing about freshman hopkers is that they become sophomoric hopkers.
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MUDPT

Went into a YouTube wormhole last night and watched the last 10 minutes of the BE semi final against UConn. A majority of those 10 minutes were played by O-Max, Kam, Stevie, Chase and Ben. 4 of those players are still playing two years later and beat the eventual national champions that night. It's crazy that this is happening either every thing else going on in CBB.

BCHoopster

Quote from: willie warrior on May 14, 2024, 09:21:23 AM
Then MU needs to step up their game. If 8 million more is accurate and more on NIL is  MU is not doing enough.

Not sure how accurate that is. Last year the program went to Italy and Hawaii, know they have a great training table and get all the shoes and clothes they want, fly charter, plus some NIL money, they can compete

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Lennys Tap on May 13, 2024, 04:22:26 PM
LOL. He's won two straight National Championships and 12 straight NCAA tournament games, all by double digits. So yeah, it's kinda hard to criticize Hurley right now. His teams play as hard and as unselfishly as anyone's. He's not overly relying on the portal but he's not ignoring either. So far he's been the gold standard.

Also, consider that plenty of teams follow the same plan that UConn has, and they obviously do not have the same sort of success.

Bobby is successful not only because of the portal.  He's successful because of the totality of what he has built at UConn.

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Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2024, 03:50:16 PM
Also, consider that plenty of teams follow the same plan that UConn has, and they obviously do not have the same sort of success.

Bobby is successful not only because of the portal.  He's successful because of the totality of what he has built at UConn.

Impressive that Bobby Hurley was able to build UConn into a champion while coaching Arizona State.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on May 15, 2024, 04:11:12 PM
Impressive that Bobby Hurley was able to build UConn into a champion while coaching Arizona State.

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MU Fan in Connecticut

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on May 15, 2024, 04:11:12 PM
Impressive that Bobby Hurley was able to build UConn into a champion while coaching Arizona State.

Doing a Doug Gotlieb.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: Hards Alumni on May 15, 2024, 03:50:16 PM
Also, consider that plenty of teams follow the same plan that UConn has, and they obviously do not have the same sort of success.

Bobby is successful not only because of the portal.  He's successful because of the totality of what he has built at UConn.

No $hit, Sherlock.

And it's Danny.


Goose

IMO, we will not know how the full effect of NIL until the covid guys are done and any potential NIL rules being established. I 100% that Shaka's model, under current conditions, can have MU a year in and year out top 25 team and top 10 every few years. As my post the day after NC State, it really comes down to what Shaka and MU wants from the program and how they navigate the waters.

I think it would be very hard to be a top 10 program more years than not without using the portal to some degree. That said, I believe that this freshmen class is the first true incoming class that fits the Shaka playing style. I think last year Shaka had his hands tied to some degree because there was limited playing time available this past season. The incoming class looks to be his best on paper and has bigs that Shaka is very good developing or showcasing.

While I am a NIL fan, it is very hard to question Shaka'a plan to date. I think his system may look extremely smart post covid year and if rules are put on NIL, which I think will happen. If that happens, he will be 4-5 years into building a system and ahead of everyone that may need to adjust their NIL addiction.

MU82

Quote from: Goose on May 16, 2024, 10:26:55 AM
IMO, we will not know how the full effect of NIL until the covid guys are done and any potential NIL rules being established. I 100% that Shaka's model, under current conditions, can have MU a year in and year out top 25 team and top 10 every few years. As my post the day after NC State, it really comes down to what Shaka and MU wants from the program and how they navigate the waters.

I think it would be very hard to be a top 10 program more years than not without using the portal to some degree. That said, I believe that this freshmen class is the first true incoming class that fits the Shaka playing style. I think last year Shaka had his hands tied to some degree because there was limited playing time available this past season. The incoming class looks to be his best on paper and has bigs that Shaka is very good developing or showcasing.

While I am a NIL fan, it is very hard to question Shaka'a plan to date. I think his system may look extremely smart post covid year and if rules are put on NIL, which I think will happen. If that happens, he will be 4-5 years into building a system and ahead of everyone that may need to adjust their NIL addiction.

Spot on, Goose.
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BCHoopster

MU can play the game as good as anybody, maybe not the 2M for one player, but money for all 13 players. Kam stayed, why, because he loves MU, yes, but he loves being paid well.  Kolek and Oso did well, if you play well, the underclassmen will get there share.  The 3 freshman got a nice bump.  Did Shaka make a mistake, not signing a portal player, I say yes. Remember, a quality sub might have put Jop on the bench, watching the NCSt game, Jop belonged on the bench.

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