2025 Bracketology

[1SE]

Given what those around us on the S are doing, looks pretty much a 7 unless we win both

[fjm]

Given what those around us on the S are doing, looks pretty much a 7 unless we win both

Agree. Everyone we wanted to lose keeps winning. Dumb.

[Uncle Rico]

Not really. There are processes in place that prevent him from participating in the discussions and decisions. Like there are every year. And BM, and a number of bracketologists, have them among the first four out, if not the first team out. Ohio State stumbled last night while UNC didn't.

But people love conspiracies....

Because people are dumb

[MarquetteMike1977]

Lunardi has us as an 8 Seed today But
Marquette's WAB is 26.
Marquette's NET is 25.
Quad 1 6-8 Quad 2 7-1
Marquette should be a 6 or 7 Seed

[MU_B]

Yea, but we don't play in the B1G so he doesn't care.

[Uncle Rico]

Yea, but we don't play in the B1G so he doesn't care.

Is it your assertion an ESPN bracketologist favors the Big Ten, a league they have no TV rights to?

[HowardsWorld]

Lunardi has us as an 8 Seed today But
Marquette's WAB is 26.
Marquette's NET is 25.
Quad 1 6-8 Quad 2 7-1
Marquette should be a 6 or 7 Seed

In fairness, yesterdays win was the best win we have had since Creighton all the way back in January. Its not like beating a bubble team yesterday was going to erase the last 10 games and jump MU 2 seed lines. If I was a betting man I would say Marquette is a 6 seed even with a loss today. But a win could jump MU to a 4/5

[wisblue]

In fairness, yesterdays win was the best win we have had since Creighton all the way back in January. Its not like beating a bubble team yesterday was going to erase the last 10 games and jump MU 2 seed lines. If I was a betting man I would say Marquette is a 6 seed even with a loss today. But a win could jump MU to a 4/5

One win isn't going to move MU up 2 seed lines.

The consensus seems to have MU as a 7 now.

It would be hard to move up even to a 5 with wins the next 2 nights, but that would depend on what other teams do.

[MU82]

In fairness, yesterdays win was the best win we have had since Creighton all the way back in January. Its not like beating a bubble team yesterday was going to erase the last 10 games and jump MU 2 seed lines. If I was a betting man I would say Marquette is a 6 seed even with a loss today. But a win could jump MU to a 4/5

Bracketmatrix has us as the last 7.

I like where you have us better.

[wisblue]

I often go to the Bracketville site run by Dave Ommen to get their take on Bracketology items. I have found the site to be pretty accurate the last few years.

Yesterday, Dave had MU as a 7 seed (number 27 on his seed list).

His report this morning commenting on today's key games had this to say about MU:

"Marquette may have kept itself above an 8 seed by rallying past Xavier on Friday (sic). A move back to the 6 seed line is still possible and begins against the Johnnies."

I think that's a fair summary.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Bracketmatrix has us as the last 7.

I like where you have us better.

Yes saw that on bracket matrix. Kindly mention to Lunardi where you feel Marquette should be if you get a chance 

[MarquetteMike1977]

I often go to the Bracketville site run by Dave Ommen to get their take on Bracketology items. I have found the site to be pretty accurate the last few years.

Yesterday, Dave had MU as a 7 seed (number 27 on his seed list).

His report this morning commenting on today's key games had this to say about MU:

"Marquette may have kept itself above an 8 seed by rallying past Xavier on Friday (sic). A move back to the 6 seed line is still possible and begins against the Johnnies."

I think that's a fair summary.

Everyone's definition of fair is different. But I agree with your post and agree with summaries also. Mention this to Lunardi too if you get a chance.

[wisblue]

Everyone's definition of fair is different. But I agree with your post and agree with summaries also. Mention this to Lunardi too if you get a chance.

I see Lunardi's brackets because they are the most highly publicized, but I don't find them to be the most accurate.

[Newsdreams]

Yes saw that on bracket matrix. Kindly mention to Lunardi where you feel Marquette should be if you get a chance 

Lunardi suxs

[CountryRoads]

I see Lunardi's brackets because they are the most highly publicized, but I don't find them to be the most accurate.

His final bracket will be good but his thoughts in between are almost completely useless. He's way too radical with moving teams around after single game results. Every team's resume needs to be reevaluated as a whole instead of just casually moving teams up and down the SCurve based on the vibe of the hour. No one can keep all of that info in their mental cache. I thought it was hilarious when Miller was asked in his press conference about the bubble and he said "sometimes you just want to reach through the screen" and made a grabbing gesture. Likely referring to Lunardi.

[Warrior_2002]

I feel like I heard in recent years the committee doesn't look as closely at the last 10 games as they used to. That said, it seems beneficial to us to have beaten 3 top big ten teams at the beginning of the season. That has me thinking we are closer to a 6 worst case 7 but no way an 8. Does that last 10 games thing hold true?

[wisblue]

I feel like I heard in recent years the committee doesn't look as closely at the last 10 games as they used to. That said, it seems beneficial to us to have beaten 3 top big ten teams at the beginning of the season. That has me thinking we are closer to a 6 worst case 7 but no way an 8. Does that last 10 games thing hold true?

Last 10 games used to be specifically cited as a measure looked at by the Committee.

That has been removed and doesn't appear on the "team sheets" the Committee members receive with data on each team.

So, theoretically all games count the same regardless of when they are played. But, there's no real way of knowing if the committee members might have recent trends in mind as they make subjective decisions about placing teams on the seed list.

There's no question that MU's early season wins are the strong part of their resume.

[Uncle Rico]

I feel like I heard in recent years the committee doesn't look as closely at the last 10 games as they used to. That said, it seems beneficial to us to have beaten 3 top big ten teams at the beginning of the season. That has me thinking we are closer to a 6 worst case 7 but no way an 8. Does that last 10 games thing hold true?

Depends.  They do look at Marquette's last 10 games for sure but not other teams

[BM1090]

I think 6 is more likely than 8 at this point. Would have expected an 8-9 game with a loss yesterday.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Depends.  They do look at Marquette's last 10 games for sure but not other teams

I agree, Marquette fans should definitely be wearing Depends.

[fjm]

Geesus. This loss to number 6 in the country, St. John's just moved us to a 17 seed.

[muwarrior69]

Last 10 games used to be specifically cited as a measure looked at by the Committee.

That has been removed and doesn't appear on the "team sheets" the Committee members receive with data on each team.

So, theoretically all games count the same regardless of when they are played. But, there's no real way of knowing if the committee members might have recent trends in mind as they make subjective decisions about placing teams on the seed list.

There's no question that MU's early season wins are the strong part of their resume.

Too bad we don't play the the NCAA in December.

[MuggsyB]

I don't understand this love for Illinois in the brackets.  I can say the same thing about Gonzaga, Kansas, and St.Mary's.  I think we wind up a 7. 

[bilsu]

Last 10 games used to be specifically cited as a measure looked at by the Committee.

That has been removed and doesn't appear on the "team sheets" the Committee members receive with data on each team.

So, theoretically all games count the same regardless of when they are played. But, there's no real way of knowing if the committee members might have recent trends in mind as they make subjective decisions about placing teams on the seed list.

There's no question that MU's early season wins are the strong part of their resume.
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Last 10 games used to be specifically cited as a measure looked at by the Committee.

That has been removed and doesn't appear on the "team sheets" the Committee members receive with data on each team.

So, theoretically all games count the same regardless of when they are played. But, there's no real way of knowing if the committee members might have recent trends in mind as they make subjective decisions about placing teams on the seed list.

There's no question that MU's early season wins are the strong part of their resume.

I think the only reason it has been changed is it benefits the power conferences.
It allows them to get teams in with poor conference records. Xavier a 13-7 Big East team gets left out, because of this.

Last 10 games used to be specifically cited as a measure looked at by the Committee.

That has been removed and doesn't appear on the "team sheets" the Committee members receive with data on each team.

So, theoretically all games count the same regardless of when they are played. But, there's no real way of knowing if the committee members might have recent trends in mind as they make subjective decisions about placing teams on the seed list.

There's no question that MU's early season wins are the strong part of their resume.

Xavier with a 13-7 conference record is going to be left out, because they are going to take poor teams with poor conference records from the SEC and Big 12.

[fjm]

I don't understand this love for Illinois in the brackets.  I can say the same thing about Gonzaga, Kansas, and St.Mary's.  I think we wind up a 7. 

Stats show Gonzaga is more of a 5. They are good based on crushing bad teams. Dumb