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Marquette vs
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Date/Time: Mar 14, 2025 5:30pm
TV: Fox
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1SE

Given what those around us on the S are doing, looks pretty much a 7 unless we win both
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fjm

Quote from: 1SE on Today at 01:01:21 AMGiven what those around us on the S are doing, looks pretty much a 7 unless we win both

Agree. Everyone we wanted to lose keeps winning. Dumb.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: The Sultan on March 13, 2025, 09:27:32 AMNot really. There are processes in place that prevent him from participating in the discussions and decisions. Like there are every year. And BM, and a number of bracketologists, have them among the first four out, if not the first team out. Ohio State stumbled last night while UNC didn't.

But people love conspiracies....

Because people are dumb
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MarquetteMike1977

Lunardi has us as an 8 Seed today But
Marquette's WAB is 26.
Marquette's NET is 25.
Quad 1 6-8 Quad 2 7-1
Marquette should be a 6 or 7 Seed

MU_B

Yea, but we don't play in the B1G so he doesn't care.
Willfully misinformed.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU_B on Today at 12:34:00 PMYea, but we don't play in the B1G so he doesn't care.

Is it your assertion an ESPN bracketologist favors the Big Ten, a league they have no TV rights to?
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HowardsWorld

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 12:32:36 PMLunardi has us as an 8 Seed today But
Marquette's WAB is 26.
Marquette's NET is 25.
Quad 1 6-8 Quad 2 7-1
Marquette should be a 6 or 7 Seed

In fairness, yesterdays win was the best win we have had since Creighton all the way back in January. Its not like beating a bubble team yesterday was going to erase the last 10 games and jump MU 2 seed lines. If I was a betting man I would say Marquette is a 6 seed even with a loss today. But a win could jump MU to a 4/5

wisblue

Quote from: HowardsWorld on Today at 01:02:02 PMIn fairness, yesterdays win was the best win we have had since Creighton all the way back in January. Its not like beating a bubble team yesterday was going to erase the last 10 games and jump MU 2 seed lines. If I was a betting man I would say Marquette is a 6 seed even with a loss today. But a win could jump MU to a 4/5

One win isn't going to move MU up 2 seed lines.

The consensus seems to have MU as a 7 now.

It would be hard to move up even to a 5 with wins the next 2 nights, but that would depend on what other teams do.

MU82

Quote from: HowardsWorld on Today at 01:02:02 PMIn fairness, yesterdays win was the best win we have had since Creighton all the way back in January. Its not like beating a bubble team yesterday was going to erase the last 10 games and jump MU 2 seed lines. If I was a betting man I would say Marquette is a 6 seed even with a loss today. But a win could jump MU to a 4/5

Bracketmatrix has us as the last 7.

I like where you have us better.
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wisblue

I often go to the Bracketville site run by Dave Ommen to get their take on Bracketology items. I have found the site to be pretty accurate the last few years.

Yesterday, Dave had MU as a 7 seed (number 27 on his seed list).

His report this morning commenting on today's key games had this to say about MU:

"Marquette may have kept itself above an 8 seed by rallying past Xavier on Friday (sic). A move back to the 6 seed line is still possible and begins against the Johnnies."

I think that's a fair summary.




MarquetteMike1977

Quote from: MU82 on Today at 01:19:49 PMBracketmatrix has us as the last 7.

I like where you have us better.

Yes saw that on bracket matrix. Kindly mention to Lunardi where you feel Marquette should be if you get a chance 

MarquetteMike1977

Quote from: wisblue on Today at 01:47:53 PMI often go to the Bracketville site run by Dave Ommen to get their take on Bracketology items. I have found the site to be pretty accurate the last few years.

Yesterday, Dave had MU as a 7 seed (number 27 on his seed list).

His report this morning commenting on today's key games had this to say about MU:

"Marquette may have kept itself above an 8 seed by rallying past Xavier on Friday (sic). A move back to the 6 seed line is still possible and begins against the Johnnies."

I think that's a fair summary.





Everyone's definition of fair is different. But I agree with your post and agree with summaries also. Mention this to Lunardi too if you get a chance.

wisblue

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 01:57:54 PMEveryone's definition of fair is different. But I agree with your post and agree with summaries also. Mention this to Lunardi too if you get a chance.

I see Lunardi's brackets because they are the most highly publicized, but I don't find them to be the most accurate.

Newsdreams

Quote from: MarquetteMike1977 on Today at 01:54:48 PMYes saw that on bracket matrix. Kindly mention to Lunardi where you feel Marquette should be if you get a chance 
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Quote from: wisblue on Today at 02:33:29 PMI see Lunardi's brackets because they are the most highly publicized, but I don't find them to be the most accurate.

His final bracket will be good but his thoughts in between are almost completely useless. He's way too radical with moving teams around after single game results. Every team's resume needs to be reevaluated as a whole instead of just casually moving teams up and down the SCurve based on the vibe of the hour. No one can keep all of that info in their mental cache. I thought it was hilarious when Miller was asked in his press conference about the bubble and he said "sometimes you just want to reach through the screen" and made a grabbing gesture. Likely referring to Lunardi.

Warrior_2002

I feel like I heard in recent years the committee doesn't look as closely at the last 10 games as they used to. That said, it seems beneficial to us to have beaten 3 top big ten teams at the beginning of the season. That has me thinking we are closer to a 6 worst case 7 but no way an 8. Does that last 10 games thing hold true?

wisblue

Quote from: Warrior_2002 on Today at 02:49:37 PMI feel like I heard in recent years the committee doesn't look as closely at the last 10 games as they used to. That said, it seems beneficial to us to have beaten 3 top big ten teams at the beginning of the season. That has me thinking we are closer to a 6 worst case 7 but no way an 8. Does that last 10 games thing hold true?

Last 10 games used to be specifically cited as a measure looked at by the Committee.

That has been removed and doesn't appear on the "team sheets" the Committee members receive with data on each team.

So, theoretically all games count the same regardless of when they are played. But, there's no real way of knowing if the committee members might have recent trends in mind as they make subjective decisions about placing teams on the seed list.

There's no question that MU's early season wins are the strong part of their resume.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Warrior_2002 on Today at 02:49:37 PMI feel like I heard in recent years the committee doesn't look as closely at the last 10 games as they used to. That said, it seems beneficial to us to have beaten 3 top big ten teams at the beginning of the season. That has me thinking we are closer to a 6 worst case 7 but no way an 8. Does that last 10 games thing hold true?

Depends.  They do look at Marquette's last 10 games for sure but not other teams
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BM1090

I think 6 is more likely than 8 at this point. Would have expected an 8-9 game with a loss yesterday.

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Quote from: Uncle Rico on Today at 03:48:37 PMDepends.  They do look at Marquette's last 10 games for sure but not other teams

I agree, Marquette fans should definitely be wearing Depends.

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