2025 Bracketology

[Its DJOver]

So who's got the best chance to be the Beast's 4th bid?

Gtown certainly looked the part last night, but that resume is still... woof.

I don't trust X to be able to go on a run. Think their stretch of @MU, @StJ, Uconn, @CU could end their non MSG chances before Feb.

CU has looked pretty meh, the Kansas win will always look good, but that's it for Q1 and without Isaacs, I don't see enough playmaking ability on that squad.

Nova is the closet NET wise, but are still without a Q1 win and a pair of Q3 losses.  Win their next two and maybe?

[BM1090]

So who's got the best chance to be the Beast's 4th bid?

Gtown certainly looked the part last night, but that resume is still... woof.

I don't trust X to be able to go on a run. Think their stretch of @MU, @StJ, Uconn, @CU could end their non MSG chances before Feb.

CU has looked pretty meh, the Kansas win will always look good, but that's it for Q1 and without Isaacs, I don't see enough playmaking ability on that squad.

Nova is the closet NET wise, but are still without a Q1 win and a pair of Q3 losses.  Win their next two and maybe?

Think you covered it. Depaul, Seton Hall, Providence and Butler have little to no shot.

The next two for me are Creighton and Georgetown. I will say Creighton finds a way in. 2 Q1 wins and no bad losses. If Nebraska moves up a little there's a chance they have no losses below Q1. They haven't played any of the BE bottom feeders yet. They could get to 19-12 (12-8) and have a good shot. I think 10-6 is realistic for them with 8 remaining against the four bottom teams.

Georgetown looks good, but they have to start building a resume.

Xavier and Nova are right there, but watching them I am not sure I see enough coaching.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Has X had the toughest BE schedule to start the season?

UConn, us, St. John's, Georgetown

[brewcity77]

So who's got the best chance to be the Beast's 4th bid?

Gtown certainly looked the part last night, but that resume is still... woof.

I don't trust X to be able to go on a run. Think their stretch of @MU, @StJ, Uconn, @CU could end their non MSG chances before Feb.

CU has looked pretty meh, the Kansas win will always look good, but that's it for Q1 and without Isaacs, I don't see enough playmaking ability on that squad.

Nova is the closet NET wise, but are still without a Q1 win and a pair of Q3 losses.  Win their next two and maybe?

I think it'll be Georgetown, but with UConn and St John's this week, Nova can get right in the mix.

GT doesn't have any great wins, but no terrible losses either. They would be aided by getting a couple off MU/UConn/SJU and grabbing a couple of the lower tier Q1 road games.

Nova, man those bad losses hurt. Neptune loves digging a hole.

Creighton is the only other one I can see, but agreed that without Isaacs it's probably too tough. Xavier I just don't think has the defense to win consistently. They'll grab a big win or two, but probably drop a game to DePaul or SHU.

[Its DJOver]

I think it'll be Georgetown, but with UConn and St John's this week, Nova can get right in the mix.

GT doesn't have any great wins, but no terrible losses either. They would be aided by getting a couple off MU/UConn/SJU and grabbing a couple of the lower tier Q1 road games.

Nova, man those bad losses hurt. Neptune loves digging a hole.

Creighton is the only other one I can see, but agreed that without Isaacs it's probably too tough. Xavier I just don't think has the defense to win consistently. They'll grab a big win or two, but probably drop a game to DePaul or SHU.

How many wins do you think Gtown needs? That non-conference SOS is truly abysmal. Like, need 25 wins and (IMO) still might be sweating.

8 Q4 games with half of them being sub 300, combined with no Q1 or Q2A wins and an NET in the 70s. If we hadn't just gotten a real good look at them, I would be saying no way.

[willie warrior]

Has X had the toughest BE schedule to start the season?

UConn, us, St. John's, Georgetown

Absolutely

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

How many wins do you think Gtown needs? That non-conference SOS is truly abysmal. Like, need 25 wins and (IMO) still might be sweating.

8 Q4 games with half of them being sub 300, combined with no Q1 or Q2A wins and an NET in the 70s. If we hadn't just gotten a real good look at them, I would be saying no way.

Playing around with the Teamcast feature on T-rank, 24-7 (15-5 BE) sends Georgetown to Dayton.  25-6 (16-4 BE) makes them a 9 seed.

Earning an at large bid is a very tall task for Georgetown.

[Uncle Rico]

Absolutely

You think Marquette sucks, so that X loss to Marquette is a bad one

[DoctorV]

Playing around with the Teamcast feature on T-rank, 24-7 (15-5 BE) sends Georgetown to Dayton.  25-6 (16-4 BE) makes them a 9 seed.

Earning an at large bid is a very tall task for Georgetown.

Yea they aren't that good. They will likely have 3 BE losses by next week.

They just have a pretty good coach who knows Marquette well and game planned a perfect gameplan in the 1H.
They gave MU their best shot, and it was impressive that they kept battling and had a lead with 3 mins left, but a lot of teams will give MU their best shot as the hunted this season.

They are tough defensively, but will struggle to score all season. I'd say it's an accomplishment if they make the NIT

[MU82]

Yea they aren't that good. They will likely have 3 BE losses by next week.

They just have a pretty good coach who knows Marquette well and game planned a perfect gameplan in the 1H.
They gave MU their best shot, and it was impressive that they kept battling and had a lead with 3 mins left, but a lot of teams will give MU their best shot as the hunted this season.

They are tough defensively, but will struggle to score all season. I'd say it's an accomplishment if they make the NIT

That would be sensational. Back in 2025, the NIT was as prestigious as the NCAA Tournament.

[CountryRoads]

Playing around with the Teamcast feature on T-rank, 24-7 (15-5 BE) sends Georgetown to Dayton.  25-6 (16-4 BE) makes them a 9 seed.

Earning an at large bid is a very tall task for Georgetown.

Let's hope that doesn't happen. The optics would be terrible to have a big east team with that kind of record so close to the bubble. On the other hand, they completely deserve it for playing that Mickey Mouse schedule.

[brewcity77]

Playing around with the Teamcast feature on T-rank, 24-7 (15-5 BE) sends Georgetown to Dayton.  25-6 (16-4 BE) makes them a 9 seed.

Earning an at large bid is a very tall task for Georgetown.

I think 13-7 might be enough depending on the rest of the Big East. But they'll need 3-4 Q1 wins in there. Getting UConn at home (without McNeeley) would be huge. Getting one off St John's (31, just outside Q1 at home) and two road wins at Xavier, Creighton, Nova, Providence, or Butler (those last two are 78/82, just outside Q1 road).

Probably just depends on whether or not Thomas Sorber can play 35+ mpg.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

I think 13-7 might be enough depending on the rest of the Big East. But they'll need 3-4 Q1 wins in there. Getting UConn at home (without McNeeley) would be huge. Getting one off St John's (31, just outside Q1 at home) and two road wins at Xavier, Creighton, Nova, Providence, or Butler (those last two are 78/82, just outside Q1 road).

Probably just depends on whether or not Thomas Sorber can play 35+ mpg.

13-7 is probably the minimum to get Georgetown to be in the discussion.

And a lot depends on how they get to 13-7. They need to get their predictive and resumé metrics up quite a bit.

[Billy Hoyle]

thinking about this due to their recent two game losing streak putting them on the bubble, if selected as an at-large could or would Dayton be put into the Dayton games if they were one of the last four in? Or would it be a BYU situation where they get selected but seeded differently due to restrictions?

[brewcity77]

thinking about this due to their recent two game losing streak putting them on the bubble, if selected as an at-large could or would Dayton be put into the Dayton games if they were one of the last four in? Or would it be a BYU situation where they get selected but seeded differently due to restrictions?

They would play at home in Dayton. In 2015, they beat Boise State 56-55 in a play-in at UD Arena.

[MU82]

You're really Dayton yourself, brew.

[MUDPT]

According to Torvik Big East current and games remaining, in conference SOS:

MU 6,9
St. John's 10,7
UCONN 8,8
Nova 11,3
Georgetown 7,4
Creighton 1,11
Providence 3,6
Seton Hall 9,1
X 4,5
Butler 2, 10
DePaul 5,2

I'm probably more bullish on Creighton because they have a lot of opportunities for some wins going forward.

[WhiteTrash]

According to Torvik Big East current and games remaining, in conference SOS:

MU 6,9
St. John's 10,7
UCONN 8,8
Nova 11,3
Georgetown 7,4
Creighton 1,11
Providence 3,6
Seton Hall 9,1
X 4,5
Butler 2, 10
DePaul 5,2

I'm probably more bullish on Creighton because they have a lot of opportunities for some wins going forward.

You're not buying DePaul stock?!?!

[Galway Eagle]

Fox sports just showed GTown and Nova as next four out. If they manage to slip into the tournament I'll be absolutely flabbergasted

[Uncle Rico]

Fox sports just showed GTown and Nova as next four out. If they manage to slip into the tournament I'll be absolutely flabbergasted

Need 68 teams

[FairWeatherEagle]

Teams that best UC or MU and can finish 11-9 or better will make it. Otherwise I think they'll need 13+ BE wins.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Fox sports just showed GTown and Nova as next four out. If they manage to slip into the tournament I'll be absolutely flabbergasted

Fox Sports is one of the worst bracket projectors. Don't pay any attention to them.

[MarquetteMike1977]

Today before the Marquette Seton Hall game Joe Lunardi ESPN has Marquette as a #3 Seed playing #14 Seed Charleston in Cleveland. With the winner playing the winner of #6 Seed louisville versus #11 Seed UCF/Indiana in the Indianapolis Midwest Region.

Big East has 4 Teams In according to Lunardi
Marquette #3 Seed
UCONN #6 Seed
Saint John's # 7 Seed
Creighton # 9 Seed
Xavier is in the Next 4 Out

[1SE]

Today before the Marquette Seton Hall game Joe Lunardi ESPN has Marquette as a #3 Seed playing #14 Seed Charleston in Cleveland. With the winner playing the winner of #6 Seed louisville versus #11 Seed UCF/Indiana in the Indianapolis Midwest Region.

Big East has 4 Teams In according to Lunardi
Marquette #3 Seed
UCONN #6 Seed
Saint John's # 7 Seed
Creighton # 9 Seed
Xavier is in the Next 4 Out

Pretty agnostic between a 2 and a 3 - the big drop ip probs comes from 1 to 2 - still a drop from 2 to 3 but I think much more matchup dependent - there are 3 seed paths to the S16 than can be easier than 2 seed paths

[MarquetteMike1977]

Today after Marquette's Win over Seton Hall Marquette is a # 2 Seed and # 8 Overall in Joe Lunardi's S Curve