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Marquette @
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Date/Time: Dec 21, 2024 11:00am
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Schedule for 2024-25
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TAMU, Knower of Ball

https://painttouches.com/2024/04/19/2024-big-east-roster-tracker/

We did this two seasons ago and decided to bring it back this season. An all in one resource that shows what each Big East team is losing, what they're gaining, and what's still up in the air this offseason. We'll be updating every few days.

Marquette looking very stable.

Depaul and Xavier looking very unstable but bringing in a lot transfers to hopefully come back stronger.

St. John's looking very unstable and no movement yet in the portal
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


muwarrior69

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 19, 2024, 03:23:58 PM
https://painttouches.com/2024/04/19/2024-big-east-roster-tracker/

We did this two seasons ago and decided to bring it back this season. An all in one resource that shows what each Big East team is losing, what they're gaining, and what's still up in the air this offseason. We'll be updating every few days.

Marquette looking very stable.

Depaul and Xavier looking very unstable but bringing in a lot transfers to hopefully come back stronger.

St. John's looking very unstable and no movement yet in the portal

Villanova:
Malcolm Thomas #150 ranked FR, #34 ranked SC

What does SC stand for?

BrewCity83

The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

willie warrior

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 19, 2024, 03:23:58 PM
https://painttouches.com/2024/04/19/2024-big-east-roster-tracker/

We did this two seasons ago and decided to bring it back this season. An all in one resource that shows what each Big East team is losing, what they're gaining, and what's still up in the air this offseason. We'll be updating every few days.

Marquette looking very stable.

Depaul and Xavier looking very unstable but bringing in a lot transfers to hopefully come back stronger.

St. John's looking very unstable and no movement yet in the portal
Thanks for posting this.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind.

bilsu

Mentions Hopkins of Providence returning from injury as an addition. No mention of Sean Jones for Marquette.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Markusquette

All the movement makes me feel a lot better about MU's chances to be top 3 again in the Big East

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: bilsu on April 19, 2024, 07:31:52 PM
Mentions Hopkins of Providence returning from injury as an addition. No mention of Sean Jones for Marquette.

I noticed that too, but my guess is that's because he is not expected to be able to play at the beginning of the season. Also, there has been speculation that he will redshirt rather than coming in later. Hopkins will begin in November.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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brewcity77

Quote from: bilsu on April 19, 2024, 07:31:52 PM
Mentions Hopkins of Providence returning from injury as an addition. No mention of Sean Jones for Marquette.

Honestly, not sure we'll see Jones next year. If his timetable is February, is it worth him giving up a year of eligibility like freshman Junior Cadougan did for 6 weeks of playing time?
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Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 20, 2024, 09:21:15 AM
Honestly, not sure we'll see Jones next year. If his timetable is February, is it worth him giving up a year of eligibility like freshman Junior Cadougan did for 6 weeks of playing time?

For the player, preserving eligibility is in their best interest.  For the school, it depends. 

Keeping Greg Elliott out hurt Marquette's guard depth in 2019.  Then Greg used his final year of eligibility at Pittsburgh.  So Marquette didn't benefit in that scenario.

If Tre, Zaide, and Damarius are playing well then it makes sense to let Sean sit out.  But if we need depth and Sean in healthy enough to play effectively, I say play him.

brewcity77

Agree that it will be circumstantial, but Greg did play 4 years at Marquette and I believe appeared in every game he was available for. No one in 2018-19 knew that a global pandemic would change eligibility rules or that Greg's coach would be fired in the middle of said pandemic. I also think there was a mutual comfort level with Greg leaving after 2022.

I don't think Marquette was harmed at all in that scenario.

I do agree that it will be circumstantial. We'll see where the team is at when Sean is available, but I do think it is difficult to bring in a rotation guard recovering from injury that late in the season. Looking back at Junior, that was the definition of a wasted year of eligibility.
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bilsu

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on April 20, 2024, 09:41:20 AM
For the player, preserving eligibility is in their best interest.  For the school, it depends. 

Keeping Greg Elliott out hurt Marquette's guard depth in 2019.  Then Greg used his final year of eligibility at Pittsburgh.  So Marquette didn't benefit in that scenario.

If Tre, Zaide, and Damarius are playing well then it makes sense to let Sean sit out.  But if we need depth and Sean in healthy enough to play effectively, I say play him.
coming back too soon risks a reinjury.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: bilsu on April 20, 2024, 09:49:24 AM
coming back too soon risks a reinjury.

The assumption is that he would be cleared obviously.
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Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Yes, obviously Sean has to be healthy enough to be cleared.  When he is cleared changes the calculus.

Dec 1 or early?  Likely return.

~Jan 1  maybe 50/50

~Feb 1 Unlikely return.

It really just depends on how rehab goes.

Scoop Snoop

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Quote from: brewcity77 on April 20, 2024, 09:21:15 AM
Honestly, not sure we'll see Jones next year. If his timetable is February, is it worth him giving up a year of eligibility like freshman Junior Cadougan did for 6 weeks of playing time?

To me, the other questions are where and how he would fit into the roster midway into the season?












Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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MU82

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on April 20, 2024, 09:52:38 AM
The assumption is that he would be cleared obviously.

"Kolek cleared" or actually cleared?

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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: muwarrior69 on April 19, 2024, 04:03:27 PM
Villanova:
Malcolm Thomas #150 ranked FR, #34 ranked SC

What does SC stand for?

It's a typo. Thanks for pointing it out.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

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TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: bilsu on April 19, 2024, 07:31:52 PM
Mentions Hopkins of Providence returning from injury as an addition. No mention of Sean Jones for Marquette.

My reasoning is that based both on what's publically known and what I've heard from others about the injury, I'm very doubtful that Sean will play next season. But it is a fair point that I don't know that to be the case. During my next update I'll add him to Marquette's "In Flux" category.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


TAMU, Knower of Ball

https://painttouches.com/2024/04/19/2024-big-east-roster-tracker/

Roster tracker updated. Every team except Marquette has an update this week, continuing our quiet offseason. Meanwhile Seton Hall has lost every one of their starters and all but one of their significant bench players. We also added some projected starting lineups and it is not looking good for the Pirate or Wildcats, both of whom we project starting multiple freshmen at this point.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Uncle Rico

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 25, 2024, 03:08:24 PM
https://painttouches.com/2024/04/19/2024-big-east-roster-tracker/

Roster tracker updated. Every team except Marquette has an update this week, continuing our quiet offseason. Meanwhile Seton Hall has lost every one of their starters and all but one of their significant bench players. We also added some projected starting lineups and it is not looking good for the Pirate or Wildcats, both of whom we project starting multiple freshmen at this point.

I think it's possible Seton Hall's experience in the NIT won't matter next season
Gard just gets it done

Hards Alumni

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on April 25, 2024, 03:08:24 PM
https://painttouches.com/2024/04/19/2024-big-east-roster-tracker/

Roster tracker updated. Every team except Marquette has an update this week, continuing our quiet offseason. Meanwhile Seton Hall has lost every one of their starters and all but one of their significant bench players. We also added some projected starting lineups and it is not looking good for the Pirate or Wildcats, both of whom we project starting multiple freshmen at this point.

Isn't there something like 1700 players in the portal?  It is certainly going to the interesting watching some of the high major teams scramble to put together teams filled with mid major players in a hurry only to go 10-20 for the year.

mileskishnish72

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 25, 2024, 03:17:10 PM
I think it's possible Seton Hall's experience in the NIT won't matter next season

Rico, as much as I enjoy your shtick, you gotta stop with the SHU/NIT.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: mileskishnish72 on April 25, 2024, 05:35:49 PM
Rico, as much as I enjoy your shtick, you gotta stop with the SHU/NIT.

Ball knowers know
Gard just gets it done

DFW HOYA

Edit to Georgetown list: Cam Bacote was not a walk-on.

mugrad_89

Trey Alexander announced he's going pro - although this was generally expected, still a big loss for Creighton.

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