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Galway Eagle

Quote from: alleninxis on January 29, 2024, 05:48:10 PM
If you think that was a neutral platform...I have seen people who know Ed personally on twitter say it would have been fair game if any of them were asked - they were not.

Fanta says he was lied to about the project and personally apologized to Ed on Saturday. Goodman's fight in this is over Fanta - nothing else. Again, Goodman is a clown - but if what Fanta says is true about being duped - then what?

This guy is playing victim today and it's his word against Fanta - doubt we'll ever get the truth but the Big East office is NOT happy about it.

If the question was "why do you think Ed left?" And a bunch of people respond with affair allegations the documentarian has a responsibility to show that. The bottom line is the documentary is a discussion on why he left and the fans reaction. True or not is irrelevant as it encapsulates the fans willingness to believe anything to figure out a justification.

Where did Fanta "says he was lied to about the project and personally apologized to Ed on Saturday" ? I haven't seen anything on that. If there's no source then I would opine that Goodman and Dauster have an unspoken social contract with coaches where there's a line of what they can discuss. This contract keeps coaches willing to participate on their podcasts and shows. Fanta appearing on the doc that likely violates this social contract jeopardizes that pipeline.

Now if Fanta is correct, then the guy deserves to be sued into oblivion but that should be handled in the court of law. Your thesis in your previous post tried to justify Goodman's threats because Providence fans were/are jackasses, but given the threats weren't to the fans on the documentary, they aren't connected to draw this tit for tat equivalency.

Quote from: alleninxis on January 29, 2024, 05:52:04 PM

in the end, maybe there's less people than I thought that that wouldn't discuss the personal lives of people they don't know.

Umm hi this is life are you new here? There's popular religious conservative memes posted all over Facebook uses sandwiches to insult Taylor swifts (assumed, and poor assumption due on a poor understanding of anatomy) genitals based on her having various exes.

Magazines that invade celebs privacy to the point of driving them to drugs.

Celeb flight trackers.

Gossip magazines & TMZ

The list goes on and has since the idea of pop culture was invented. Is Ed Cooley a public figure? Yes. Then people care.
Numbers to contextualize MUBB:
Made 44% of tournaments, 54%  since 55

8x we've gone to the second weekend without guys that played for Al

Of 46 seeded tournaments we've been:
Two 2 seeds
Four 3 seeds
One 4 seed
Two 5 seeds
Four 6 seeds
Four 7 seeds
One 8 seed
Three 9 seeds
One 10, 11, & 12 seed.

panda

Quote from: jfp61 on January 29, 2024, 06:17:39 PM
If none of this is slander....

Then Jeff Goodman is still a punk who decided to threaten someone on behalf of either FS1, the Big East, or on behalf of Ed Cooley.

If its libel/slander/ etc. let Cooley sue the producer of the doc into oblivion.

Jeff Goodman still looks like the clown he is.

Cooley either -

Doesn't care because he did it and got away with it or -

Knows it's true and won't do anything to publicly deny it.

This isn't rocket science folks.

Silkk the Shaka

Quote from: barfolomew on January 29, 2024, 12:28:15 PM

Wow, what a messed-up, crazy situation!
To think someone would publicly admit to being a DePaul fan.

🤣🤣🤣

alleninxis

#78
Quote from: Galway Eagle on January 29, 2024, 06:41:04 PM

If the question was "why do you think Ed left?" And a bunch of people respond with affair allegations the documentarian has a responsibility to show that. The bottom line is the documentary is a discussion on why he left and the fans reaction. True or not is irrelevant as it encapsulates the fans willingness to believe anything to figure out a justification.

Where did Fanta "says he was lied to about the project and personally apologized to Ed on Saturday" ? I haven't seen anything on that. If there's no source then I would opine that Goodman and Dauster have an unspoken social contract with coaches where there's a line of what they can discuss. This contract keeps coaches willing to participate on their podcasts and shows. Fanta appearing on the doc that likely violates this social contract jeopardizes that pipeline.

Now if Fanta is correct, then the guy deserves to be sued into oblivion but that should be handled in the court of law. Your thesis in your previous post tried to justify Goodman's threats because Providence fans were/are jackasses, but given the threats weren't to the fans on the documentary, they aren't connected to draw this tit for tat equivalency.


So, uh what about it being neutral? Didn't he have a responsibility to reach out and get Ed's side of the story from people close to him? He did not.

Fanta hasn't said that publicly, but I assure you this is the root of the issue. I am not saying Fanta is telling the truth either - but the Big East office is not exactly pleased to have one of their most visible faces tied to a propaganda piece likening one of their coaches to Hitler. Make sense?

Pretty sure I called Goodman a clown btw - I'm not justifying anything. I just don't want to hear about morals out of PC lunatics.

94Warrior

John Fanta, we hardly knew ya.

Thats the last we'll see of him covering the Big East, probably any major conference.

We just witnessed career suicide.  Too bad, I liked his energy.

The Sultan

Quote from: 94Warrior on January 29, 2024, 07:46:14 PM
John Fanta, we hardly knew ya.

Thats the last we'll see of him covering the Big East, probably any major conference.

We just witnessed career suicide.  Too bad, I liked his energy.

There's no job action against him right? I doubt there will be any.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Scoop Snoop

Quote from: MUbiz on January 29, 2024, 05:33:36 PM
Every fanbase has fans that chant, mock, jeer, swear and say everything you can think of that should not be said. I witnessed it during the BET last March. From my experience the UConn fans were the absolute worst and there was such a gap between UConn and everyone else it was mindboggling.

If MU was in this position and Shaka left for another rival, there is a part of the MU fanbase that would act like Kansas and Texas fans have this year - classless.

I was there and totally agree. The UCONN fans were way over the top and absolutely insufferable.
Wild horses couldn't drag me into either political party, but for very different reasons.

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TallTitan34

Quote from: 94Warrior on January 29, 2024, 07:46:14 PM
John Fanta, we hardly knew ya.

Thats the last we'll see of him covering the Big East, probably any major conference.

We just witnessed career suicide.  Too bad, I liked his energy.

Ummmm.

brewcity77

No idea if anything will come of it, but it was moronic of Fanta to do that. Putting himself adjacent to multiple people alleging Cooley cheated on his wife and one asserting he had sex with a student was a mistake.

He's the face of the Big East and here he is tearing down one of the league's most influential members. Not only that, his involvement will likely damage his reputation in the coaching fraternity, exacerbated by Goodman inadvertantly drawing a ton of attention to the documentary when he was trying to defend Fanta.

Fanta should've vetoed that as soon as he saw it.

MuggsyB

Why was it necessary to have a doc about this? 

DoctorV

#85
When I first clicked on this thread I thought it would be Muggsy suggesting that it has been an edict sent from above that Marquette must go medieval on Nova tomorrow.

Boy was I wrong.

Instead, it's about a DePaul fan and the Field of 68 crew going medieval on each other.

MuggsyB

Quote from: DoctorV on January 29, 2024, 10:19:36 PM
When I first clicked on this thread I thought it would be Muggsy suggesting that it has been an edict sent from above that Marquette must go medieval on UConn tomorrow.

Boy was I wrong.


Instead, it's about a DePaul fan and the Field of 68 crew going medieval on each other.

We have yet to go medieval this season Dr.V.  As for this doc?  Who cares?

cheebs09

Quote from: DoctorV on January 29, 2024, 10:19:36 PM
When I first clicked on this thread I thought it would be Muggsy suggesting that it has been an edict sent from above that Marquette must go medieval on UConn tomorrow.

Boy was I wrong.

Instead, it's about a DePaul fan and the Field of 68 crew going medieval on each other.

I don't think even Muggsy would expect us to go medieval in UCONN tomorrow. He's focused on Villanova.

PGsHeroes32

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

This is turning into quite the ordeal.  Maybe some will make a documentary about it.  "Requiem for Big East Films."

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: panda on January 29, 2024, 05:53:16 PM
I trust the documentarian. He has nothing to lose while fanta has lots to lose.

If there is truth to the "dupeing" allegation, the documentarian could have a ton to lose depending on how he duped Fanta
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


real chili 83

Is Fanta from Providence?  He sure was slurping.

El Guerrero 2

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on January 29, 2024, 11:35:03 PM
If there is truth to the "dupeing" allegation, the documentarian could have a ton to lose depending on how he duped Fanta

Duping isn't a cognizable legal claim and it's not a crime. Also, I think Fanta just didn't realize it would piss off Cooley so much and get him in hot water with the conference. Thats just a young guy learning a hard lesson.

TAMU, Knower of Ball

Quote from: El Guerrero 2 on January 30, 2024, 06:26:33 AM
Duping isn't a cognizable legal claim and it's not a crime. Also, I think Fanta just didn't realize it would piss off Cooley so much and get him in hot water with the conference. Thats just a young guy learning a hard lesson.

Depends on how the duping occurred.
Quote from: Goose on January 15, 2023, 08:43:46 PM
TAMU

I do know, Newsie is right on you knowing ball.


Jay Bee

Good thing Fanta cut out the lines he did. "Sh1t, I say props to Ed. I mean, us playas get madd a$$.  Respect the game, homie."
Top Ten Team in First Two Months of the Season, baldy.

MuggsyB

So somehow this person is going to do an hour plus doc on DePaul?

21Jumpstreet

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 30, 2024, 07:40:45 AM
So somehow this person is going to do an hour plus doc on DePaul?

Hah, amazing, made me laugh. And, I was a DePaul fan as a kid.

brewcity77

Quote from: MuggsyB on January 30, 2024, 07:40:45 AM
So somehow this person is going to do an hour plus doc on DePaul?


Sounds like the Big East is going to shut him down for infringing on their name (Big East Films). The next one was supposed to be on the Xavier/Cincy rivalry, but sounds like that's dead.

The Sultan

This is really an "online" controversy. Outside of some tweets, it hasn't really registered anywhere. It will die soon if it hasn't already.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

jfp61

Jeff Goodman "I was looking out for Fanta".

Everyone else "you single handedly got the documentary 50k more views in one day, before it was taken down."

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