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MuggsyB


MUDPT

Jonas picked up a Crystal Bowel to Baylor as well. Visiting there on Saturday.

tower912

Paying players is no longer dirty.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: tower912 on April 18, 2024, 08:04:09 PM
Paying players is no longer dirty.

So much easier for Scott Drew to pay players outright now
Gard just gets it done

JakeBarnes

Quote from: MUDPT on April 18, 2024, 08:03:00 PM
Jonas picked up a Crystal Bowel to Baylor as well. Visiting there on Saturday.

So this is a bad week for Weezer blue album fans?
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.


GoldenEagles03

Quote from: JakeBarnes on April 18, 2024, 08:23:19 PM
So this is a bad week for Weezer blue album fans?

Any players in the portal from Beverly Hills?
VIOLENCE!

JakeBarnes

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 18, 2024, 08:43:49 PM
Any players in the portal from Beverly Hills?

Either that or we go with the El Scorcho'd earth plan.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.


Shaka Shart

Undone deal? The sweater (song) vests won't be pleased
Happy Holidays

Johnny B

Quote from: MuggsyB on April 18, 2024, 07:59:59 PM
Jeesh.
How long before the above average power conference starter makes a mill a year. Wtf is this: where is it going? where do we end up

brewcity77

Quote from: Johnny B on April 18, 2024, 09:52:26 PM
How long before the above average power conference starter makes a mill a year. Wtf is this: where is it going? where do we end up

I think we're going to hit an apex and values will drop, probably sooner rather than later. The boosters paying for rosters at Indiana, Baylor, Texas, Ole Miss, and Maryland aren't spending to make a second weekend, they're spending for Final Four & National Championship appearances. And they won't all get that. Odds are none of them will even make the Final Four. How long will they keep throwing bad money after bad results? A few years? Sure, I'll buy that. But when programs get to 5, 10, or more years without any real success to show for their investments, those investments will stop.
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MuggsyB

Quote from: Johnny B on April 18, 2024, 09:52:26 PM
How long before the above average power conference starter makes a mill a year. Wtf is this: where is it going? where do we end up

I don't see it ending up in a good place. 

MuggsyB

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 18, 2024, 10:04:18 PM
I think we're going to hit an apex and values will drop, probably sooner rather than later. The boosters paying for rosters at Indiana, Baylor, Texas, Ole Miss, and Maryland aren't spending to make a second weekend, they're spending for Final Four & National Championship appearances. And they won't all get that. Odds are none of them will even make the Final Four. How long will they keep throwing bad money after bad results? A few years? Sure, I'll buy that. But when programs get to 5, 10, or more years without any real success to show for their investments, those investments will stop.

In a one and done tournament buying a F4 is impossible to guarantee.  But I don't think that will stop boosters for awhile. 

Pakuni

Quote from: JakeBarnes on April 18, 2024, 09:27:16 PM
Either that or we go with the El Scorcho'd earth plan.

That might be a Perfect Situation.


Herman Cain

"It was a Great Day until it wasn't"
    ——Rory McIlroy on Final Round at Pinehurst

4everwarriors

NIL will be the ruination of college athletics. The rich will get richer and the rest, poorer, aina?

#huh?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

rocket surgeon

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 19, 2024, 03:21:08 AM
NIL will be the ruination of college athletics. The rich will get richer and the rest, poorer, aina?

#huh?

  yup

waiting for the salary caps and "tax" imposed on those exceeding the cap.  next up, trade deadlines, et.al.   

gonna have to if they want to maintain their "amateur" status, eyn'a?

anyone hear wisco high schools want to get in to this NIL thingy?  I guess it's the "in" thing now.  might as well couple it with salary caps...

felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

brewcity77

Quote from: GoldenEagles03 on April 18, 2024, 07:51:39 PM
$1.4 Million for Roach to go to Baylor.

Roach himself said on social media the amounts reported are inflated.
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HowardsWorld

I am looking at this more as a transition stage before the kinks get ironed out. Most likely in 5 years they will have figured out how to cap NIL deals or at the very least unionize so that each school has a cap. I am for the players making money for the amount of revenue they bring in for schools, tv, merch etc.

There's alot of people laughing at the Badgers for losing two starters and saying this just the new college basketball. If we would have lost Kolek or Oso or even Kam to the transfer portal this board would have been in meltdown mode. It will more than likely hit Marquette at sometime, hell most likely every team but it will be the death of college sports. It will also be the death of most mid majors ever have a chance to make a deep run as anytime someone whos not a senior has a good season they will take the best NIL deal at a major program. 

I for one absolutely hate the NIL and transfer portal but I believe it will get corrected in the next few years. I do think however this will lead to 3/4/5 star recruits accepting bench role at schools with higher NIL payments than getting playing time at a lower college.

WhiteTrash

Quote from: brewcity77 on April 19, 2024, 06:16:28 AM
Roach himself said on social media the amounts reported are inflated.
Kinda have to, when you only report $500k to the IRS. ;)

Uncle Rico

Quote from: 4everwarriors on April 19, 2024, 03:21:08 AM
NIL will be the ruination of college athletics. The rich will get richer and the rest, poorer, aina?

#huh?

Wow, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.  Hard to fathom in college athletics
Gard just gets it done

Uncle Rico

Quote from: HowardsWorld on April 19, 2024, 07:20:56 AM
I am looking at this more as a transition stage before the kinks get ironed out. Most likely in 5 years they will have figured out how to cap NIL deals or at the very least unionize so that each school has a cap. I am for the players making money for the amount of revenue they bring in for schools, tv, merch etc.

There's alot of people laughing at the Badgers for losing two starters and saying this just the new college basketball. If we would have lost Kolek or Oso or even Kam to the transfer portal this board would have been in meltdown mode. It will more than likely hit Marquette at sometime, hell most likely every team but it will be the death of college sports. It will also be the death of most mid majors ever have a chance to make a deep run as anytime someone whos not a senior has a good season they will take the best NIL deal at a major program. 

I for one absolutely hate the NIL and transfer portal but I believe it will get corrected in the next few years. I do think however this will lead to 3/4/5 star recruits accepting bench role at schools with higher NIL payments than getting playing time at a lower college.

It'll certainly happen to Marquette at some point if things don't change with regards to NIL and the portal.  No one will be immune.

As for Wisconsin, I read Jim Polzin's piece this morning and there's more at play.  He hinted at Chucky being unhappy this past year but thought after the Howard Moore game, he'd be back.

I also hold Gard responsible for some of this.  It was no secret to anyone that Storr was leaving.  We put the onus on Wojo for Hausergate, I'm not sure how bringing in Storr for a year and then losing him right away isn't partly on Gard.  He had to have been pretty stupid not to know Storr was sniffing around other programs. 
Gard just gets it done

Pakuni

Quote from: Uncle Rico on April 19, 2024, 07:23:20 AM
Wow, the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.  Hard to fathom in college athletics

Free markets are now bad?

Uncle Rico

I'll also add, it was hilarious watching the Gard apologists carry the water for him yesterday, especially when Jared Berggren tweeted fans needed to donate to the Varsity Collective and the usual suspects agreed with him.

The university makes $80-$100 million off TV money and brags about their large alumni base and why athletes should get their degrees to take advantage of this but they need to ask the fans for money?  GTFOH.
Gard just gets it done

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Pakuni on April 19, 2024, 07:32:42 AM
Free markets are now bad?

This is way different.  The wrong people are getting paid. 

Isn't the education enough?  Winning in the classroom is the ultimate goal, isn't it?
Gard just gets it done

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: rocket surgeon on April 19, 2024, 05:30:57 AM
  yup

waiting for the salary caps and "tax" imposed on those exceeding the cap.  next up, trade deadlines, et.al.   

gonna have to if they want to maintain their "amateur" status, eyn'a?

anyone hear wisco high schools want to get in to this NIL thingy?  I guess it's the "in" thing now.  might as well couple it with salary caps...


You can't impose a salary cap without a collective bargaining agreement. And you can't have a CBA unless they are employees and allow them to form a union.  And even then, how can you cap outside income?

And no one has had amateur status for awhile. If they ever did.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

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