Author Topic: Big East Player of the Year as of today? (Read 7775 times)

JWags85 · « **Reply #25 on:** February 10, 2024, 09:02:17 PM »

Quote from: PGsHeroes32 on February 10, 2024, 08:48:55 PM

Uconn as a team deserves every accolade right now as the clear team to beat

But its hilarious how many BE only or AA as a whole ballots I see that have Newton over Kolek.

I guess if you want a guy who shoots worse from all over the floor with a much worse A/TO ratio hes your guy.

Yea literally the only thing he does better than Kolek, statistically, is rebound. His far less efficient, he's far less of a distributor, and I'd argue that he's not even the best offensive player on his team, he just shoots the most.

MuMark · « **Reply #26 on:** February 10, 2024, 09:07:31 PM »

Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on February 10, 2024, 08:53:22 PM

I remember when Jae was chosen. There were other "names" being thrown around. But his choice was just so right! He excelled across the board.

Yeah Kevin Jobes was the guy you are thinking if ….had a big season for WV

PGsHeroes32 · « **Reply #27 on:** February 10, 2024, 09:12:45 PM »

Quote from: JWags85 on February 10, 2024, 09:02:17 PM

Yea literally the only thing he does better than Kolek, statistically, is rebound. His far less efficient, he's far less of a distributor, and I'd argue that he's not even the best offensive player on his team, he just shoots the most.

Oh hes definitely not. Karaban and Spencer are both excellent offensively and while not as athletic they are far from just catch and shoot.

And Newton isnt some defensive savant like Carter to give him an edge either.

mug644 · « **Reply #28 on:** February 10, 2024, 10:45:24 PM »

Quote from: tower912 on February 10, 2024, 08:47:28 PM

I should have said 'Oso is playing the best among the bigs' in answer to your question. I do not thing he is BEPOY.

Thanks for the clarification, and I agree. I think that folks thought that Clingan, Soriano or Kalkbrenner would be the best big in the conference, and possibly compete for POY. They are still all beasts, but Oso bests those beasts as the best big in the BEast.

mug644 · « **Reply #29 on:** February 14, 2024, 01:55:49 PM »

I'm now wondering if Saturday's game, with Kolek and Newton playing each (not necessarily matching up, just on opposing teams) might play out similarly to 2012, when MU played WVU near the end of the regular session. Jae Crowder totally outplayed Kevin Jones and went on to win BEast POY.

Do it, Tyler, do it!

TallTitan34 · « **Reply #30 on:** February 14, 2024, 02:07:33 PM »

Quote from: MuMark on February 10, 2024, 09:07:31 PM

Yeah Kevin Jobes was the guy you are thinking if ….had a big season for WV

IIRC DJO was also in consideration.

DFW HOYA · « **Reply #31 on:** February 14, 2024, 02:19:47 PM »

Kolek or Newton. If PC finishes in the Wednesday bracket it will be difficult to elevate Carter as a result.

PGsHeroes32 · « **Reply #32 on:** February 14, 2024, 02:34:54 PM »

Newton winning would be a travesty

willie warrior · « **Reply #33 on:** February 14, 2024, 03:54:31 PM »

Kolek should repeat for what he means to the team and what he has done for the team. But in todays age where everybody gets a trophy, they will likely give it to somebody else.

Uncle Rico · « **Reply #34 on:** February 14, 2024, 03:59:13 PM »

Quote from: willie warrior on February 14, 2024, 03:54:31 PM

Kolek should repeat for what he means to the team and what he has done for the team. But in todays age where everybody gets a trophy, they will likely give it to somebody else.

Yeah!

FairWeatherEagle · « **Reply #35 on:** February 14, 2024, 04:26:27 PM »

Clear it out for either Fig Newton or Kolekoscopy

TAMU, Knower of Ball · « **Reply #36 on:** February 14, 2024, 08:02:00 PM »

Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on February 14, 2024, 04:26:27 PM

Clear it out for either Fig Newton or Kolekoscopy

Eat enough of one and you'll need the other

LloydsLegs · « **Reply #37 on:** February 14, 2024, 09:26:42 PM »

Quote from: TAMU, Knower of Ball on February 14, 2024, 08:02:00 PM

Eat enough of one and you'll need the other

😳

Eye · « **Reply #38 on:** February 15, 2024, 10:21:20 AM »

Objectively I'd saw Newton in a 51-49 type decision over TK right now. Hope to have a different answer 54 hours from now.

PGsHeroes32 · « **Reply #39 on:** February 15, 2024, 10:31:39 AM »

Quote from: Eye on February 15, 2024, 10:21:20 AM

Objectively I'd saw Newton in a 51-49 type decision over TK right now. Hope to have a different answer 54 hours from now.

How is that objective??

He’s been closer to objectively poor in BE play than POY.

Dude might not even finish the year with a 40% FG

brewcity77 · « **Reply #40 on:** February 15, 2024, 10:48:30 AM »

Listened to the Dauster/TO/Fanta podcast and noted UConn fan Rob Dauster said right now it's Kolek and it's not particularly close. He said that he trolls Marquette fans by posting pics of Newton whenever the best PG conversation comes up, but that Kolek is just on another level. I tend to agree with him.

Golden Avalanche · « **Reply #41 on:** February 15, 2024, 10:58:39 AM »

Quote from: Eye on February 15, 2024, 10:21:20 AM

Objectively I'd saw Newton in a 51-49 type decision over TK right now. Hope to have a different answer 54 hours from now.

Newton was very good in November/December. He's been fine in January/February. It's Big East PoY.

In a normal world this isn't even a conversation. But MU has already had a back-to-back stolen. History repeats.

TallTitan34 · « **Reply #42 on:** February 15, 2024, 10:58:55 AM »

Didn't stop Powell from winning it a few years back.

Pakuni · « **Reply #43 on:** February 15, 2024, 11:10:56 AM »

TK deserves it, but Kolek fatigue among voters could give it to Newton.

MU90620 · « **Reply #44 on:** February 15, 2024, 04:02:32 PM »

Honestly, I would put Spencer and Carter above Newton.

94Warrior · « **Reply #45 on:** February 15, 2024, 06:22:50 PM »

Quote from: TallTitan34 on February 15, 2024, 10:58:55 AM

Didn't stop Powell from winning it a few years back.

Powell was the one who stole it from Markus.

MU82 · « **Reply #46 on:** February 15, 2024, 06:34:35 PM »

Quote from: Uncle Rico on February 14, 2024, 03:59:13 PM

Yeah!

Don't you long for the good ol' days, when a player could win back-to-back Big East Player of the Year Awards?

Alas, we'll never see the likes of 2021 and 2022 again!

https://www.vuhoops.com/2022/3/9/22969750/collin-gillespie-named-2022-big-east-player-and-scholar-athlete-of-the-year-villanova-wildcats

Silkk the Shaka · « **Reply #47 on:** February 15, 2024, 08:35:59 PM »

Quote from: FairWeatherEagle on February 10, 2024, 08:53:22 PM

I remember when Jae was chosen. There were other "names" being thrown around. But his choice was just so right! He excelled across the board.

He had a great case for BE DPOY too that year, phenomenal season

MU82 · « **Reply #48 on:** February 15, 2024, 09:29:49 PM »

Just happened to see national defensive player of the year final 15 watch list.

Carter yes, Stevie no.

Kalkbrenner yes, Oso no.

PGsHeroes32 · « **Reply #49 on:** February 15, 2024, 09:46:45 PM »

Quote from: MU82 on February 15, 2024, 09:29:49 PM

Just happened to see national defensive player of the year final 15 watch list.

Carter yes, Stevie no.

Kalkbrenner yes, Oso no.

Kalkbrenner has had two different bigs go for 32 on him

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Author Topic: Big East Player of the Year as of today? (Read 7775 times)