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GB Warrior

Winter meetings getting under way and should be one of the more interesting offseasons in recent memory

Uncle Rico

Brewers bring back Wade Miley.  Fan of his.

Bigger news is the commitment to Jackson Chourio.  Bold move with a lot of upside and could also blowup.  Consensus seems to be it was a smart move by both
'Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.' Then all the people shall say, 'Amen!'

MU82

Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 04, 2023, 02:30:14 PM
Brewers bring back Wade Miley.  Fan of his.

Bigger news is the commitment to Jackson Chourio.  Bold move with a lot of upside and could also blowup.  Consensus seems to be it was a smart move by both

I like it on its face. It's the kind of move small-market and mid-market teams need to make.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

GB Warrior

The Chourio deal is the type of swing the Brewers can afford to make and need to make. Chourio's floor seems very very high as a great defensive outfielder that can fly and make routinely good contact. You pay for that.

Meanwhile, the Brewers have a lot of wheels in their OF and not all of them can stick. I don't see an everyday OF in Wiemer (whereas I do with Mitchell and Frelick). Some guys will be on the move (Taylor)

tower912

Hinch signs extension with Tigers.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Lennys Tap


tower912

#6
I wish he would.   Hitting needs to improve.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Shaka Shart

" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

MU82

It's supposedly down to the Dodgers, Angels, Giants, Cubs and Blue Jays for Ohtani.

If winning is actually his #1 goal, not sure how he could choose anybody but the Dodgers out of this group. A few of the others have some good pieces and they could win ... but the Dodgers are legit title contenders year after year after year, and they will never use $$$ as an excuse to not be legit contenders.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

Uncle Rico

Quote from: MU82 on December 06, 2023, 07:59:05 AM
It's supposedly down to the Dodgers, Angels, Giants, Cubs and Blue Jays for Ohtani.

If winning is actually his #1 goal, not sure how he could choose anybody but the Dodgers out of this group. A few of the others have some good pieces and they could win ... but the Dodgers are legit title contenders year after year after year, and they will never use $$$ as an excuse to not be legit contenders.

If he was about winning the right way, he'd take less money and play for the Cardinals
'Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.' Then all the people shall say, 'Amen!'

tower912

He would pay the Cardinals to take him.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

JWags85

Quote from: MU82 on December 06, 2023, 07:59:05 AM
It's supposedly down to the Dodgers, Angels, Giants, Cubs and Blue Jays for Ohtani.

If winning is actually his #1 goal, not sure how he could choose anybody but the Dodgers out of this group. A few of the others have some good pieces and they could win ... but the Dodgers are legit title contenders year after year after year, and they will never use $$$ as an excuse to not be legit contenders.

I mean, on a similar note, how could he not choose the Angels?  Pair an MVP with another MVP talent in Trout in an attractive FA market like LA?  Thats a super team.

MU82

Quote from: JWags85 on December 06, 2023, 09:44:15 AM
I mean, on a similar note, how could he not choose the Angels?  Pair an MVP with another MVP talent in Trout in an attractive FA market like LA?  Thats a super team.

If Ohtani switches leagues, Trout will win the MVP again just by voter habit. It won't matter that the Angels lose 100 games or that Trout misses more than a third of the season.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MUBurrow

Quote from: MU82 on December 06, 2023, 07:59:05 AM
It's supposedly down to the Dodgers, Angels, Giants, Cubs and Blue Jays for Ohtani.

If winning is actually his #1 goal, not sure how he could choose anybody but the Dodgers out of this group. A few of the others have some good pieces and they could win ... but the Dodgers are legit title contenders year after year after year, and they will never use $$$ as an excuse to not be legit contenders.

Buster Olney with a hilarious, Helen Lovejoy-esque "won't somebody please think of the baseball writers!" screed about how it is wrong that Ohtani is handling his own free agency how he wants to.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39049998/shohei-ohtani-secret-free-agency-mlb-dodgers-blue-jays

Shaka Shart

Quote from: MUBurrow on December 06, 2023, 01:07:57 PM
Buster Olney with a hilarious, Helen Lovejoy-esque "won't somebody please think of the baseball writers!" screed about how it is wrong that Ohtani is handling his own free agency how he wants to.
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39049998/shohei-ohtani-secret-free-agency-mlb-dodgers-blue-jays

The baseball writer circle jerk has been remarkable this offseason.

https://x.com/awfulannouncing/status/1732475773590925666?s=46&t=G2FhP_F2kWewaBOpvRv5lg

https://x.com/ken_rosenthal/status/1732242046142808255?s=46&t=G2FhP_F2kWewaBOpvRv5lg
" There are two things I can consistently smell.    Poop and Chlorine.  All poop smells like acrid baby poop mixed with diaper creme. And almost anything that smells remotely like poop; porta-johns, water filtration plants, fertilizer, etc., smells exactly the same." - Tower912

Re: COVID-19

shoothoops

Quote from: tower912 on December 06, 2023, 08:00:33 AM
He would pay the Cardinals to take him.

I heard he was signing with the West Michigan Whitecaps. Tom Izzo is going to manage the team.

tower912

#17
That would be silly.   As I was told by a St. Louis transplant at a high school baseball game last spring, real baseball isn't played here.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

The problem isn't that the winter meetings are lacking buzz, its that baseball just doesn't have enough recognizable star power.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: JWags85 on December 06, 2023, 09:44:15 AM
I mean, on a similar note, how could he not choose the Angels?  Pair an MVP with another MVP talent in Trout in an attractive FA market like LA?  Thats a super team.

Throw in an all-star like Anthony Rendon and a top prospect like Jo Adell, and that team could contend for years.

Jockey

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on December 06, 2023, 03:04:16 PM
The problem isn't that the winter meetings are lacking buzz, its that baseball just doesn't have enough recognizable star power.

Because of Magic and Bird, the NBA learned that marketing its stars is everything. The NFL is also a star driven league.

MLB has never done that until maybe 2 years ago. And they are sill behind the times.

Not A Serious Person

Western Progressives have one worldview, the correct one.

Jockey

He obviously wanted to be seen. He sees it as a bargaining chip.

There was nothing meaningful about moving the team there as I think they still have 5 or 6 years left on their lease in Chicago. By that time, LaRussa may be sober enough to make the decision.

MUINGB

I wonder with the brewer's overload of outfielders, and no announcement of a Bonafide 1st baseman, makes me think they may move Yelich to 1st??  just a thought.

GB Warrior

Quote from: MUINGB on December 06, 2023, 07:08:25 PM
I wonder with the brewer's overload of outfielders, and no announcement of a Bonafide 1st baseman, makes me think they may move Yelich to 1st??  just a thought.

There are worse ideas to be sure

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