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Pakuni

#325
Quote from: avid1010 on June 26, 2024, 08:11:10 PM
Who can Edey guard?  Memphis staff knows far more than I do...but I can't understand Edey in the NBA.

Edey actually fared reasonably well in agility drills at the Combine. His lane agility and shuttle run times were both better than Oso (as well as Clingan and DaRon Holmes). He's not a stiff.

GoldenWarrior11


Daniel

#327
Ugh.   The international players have changed the landscape.   

PointWarrior

#328
Ugh, Tyler not drafted in first round.  Thanks basketball know it alls, Muggsy probably going to take out all his frustration on an unsuspecting manatee now.

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mug644

Two Colorado guys in the top 18 (Cody Williams at #10 and Tristan da Silva at #18)?

While attentive to and in agreement with the idea that 1 or 2 games does not give an indication of NBA potential, I was in Indy in March, and watched Colorado's two games (including against MU). Williams did not impress me. Da Silva did, reminding me of Francisco Garcia of Louisville back when.

Still, I'm impressed that the Buffs had two guys picked in the first round. And I love that we beat them to make it to the Sweet Sixteen with a couple of second rounders (hopefully!) and a bunch of nobodys.

MU!!

mug644

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 26, 2024, 09:10:48 AM
I doubt it's going to happen, but I will be exceedingly angry if Tyko does not go 15-30 tonight and has to wait until tomorrow to be picked.

@Muggsy...this is a wellness check. You ok?

As Tyler would likely say, "F**k 'em"

MuggsyB

Quote from: mug644 on June 26, 2024, 11:22:12 PM
@Muggsy...this is a wellness check. You ok?

As Tyler would likely say, "F**k 'em"

I'm not pleased at all mug but I've calmed down a bit.  Your point is well taken. 

Billy Hoyle

Quote from: mug644 on June 26, 2024, 10:57:55 PM
Two Colorado guys in the top 18 (Cody Williams at #10 and Tristan da Silva at #18)?

While attentive to and in agreement with the idea that 1 or 2 games does not give an indication of NBA potential, I was in Indy in March, and watched Colorado's two games (including against MU). Williams did not impress me. Da Silva did, reminding me of Francisco Garcia of Louisville back when.

Still, I'm impressed that the Buffs had two guys picked in the first round. And I love that we beat them to make it to the Sweet Sixteen with a couple of second rounders (hopefully!) and a bunch of nobodys.

MU!!

I watched a number of Colorado games and never understood the hype surrounding Williams. I guess it's all about his length and potential, not actual performance.
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The Sultan

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 27, 2024, 07:46:29 AM
I watched a number of Colorado games and never understood the hype surrounding Williams. I guess it's all about his length and potential, not actual performance.

You don't say.
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MuggsyB

The Spurs/Wolves trade for Dilly at #8 literally makes no sense for San Antonio.  A 2031 1st rounder and a pick swap?  Totally bizarre. 

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 27, 2024, 09:09:33 AM
The Spurs/Wolves trade for Dilly at #8 literally makes no sense for San Antonio.  A 2031 1st rounder and a pick swap?  Totally bizarre. 

The Spurs are loaded with draft picks the next few years. Putting one in down the line makes some sense.
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wadesworld

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on June 27, 2024, 07:46:29 AM
I watched a number of Colorado games and never understood the hype surrounding Williams. I guess it's all about his length and potential, not actual performance.

He was playing injured pretty much the entire season.

tower912

Shaka no longer needs to keep up with UConn, he needs to keep up with France.

Because the draft was 'weak', teams were drafting for size and potential.  And by potential, they are thinking of positionless basketball.    TKo is 6'1, has a defined position, and has likely maximized his potential.   Of all the players drafted in the first round, how many can he guard?   
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Viper

Quote from: tower912 on June 27, 2024, 10:27:07 AM
Shaka no longer needs to keep up with UConn, he needs to keep up with France.

Because the draft was 'weak', teams were drafting for size and potential.  And by potential, they are thinking of positionless basketball.    TKo is 6'1, has a defined position, and has likely maximized his potential.   Of all the players drafted in the first round, how many can he guard?   
100%. For example, the Milwaukee Bucks drafted on potential looking 2-3 yrs down the road. AJ Johnson apparently had a great pre-draft and is not yet 20 yrs old, which sold the Bucks on the long view.  If TKo goes in todays 2nd rd, it might actually be better for him in the bigger picture since the drafting team is more-so selecting on fit.
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willie warrior

Heard Knicks changing their name to Villanova Knicks

Meanwhile some pundits are applauding Hurley for his strutting at the draft and using the draft as recruiting tool. Hurley sure knows how to market himself. Probably politicking for Knicks job when it opens.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: willie warrior on June 27, 2024, 11:10:30 AM
Heard Knicks changing their name to Villanova Knicks

Meanwhile some pundits are applauding Hurley for his strutting at the draft and using the draft as recruiting tool. Hurley sure knows how to market himself. Probably politicking for Knicks job when it opens.

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tower912

Meh.  Thibs has 4-5 years before he wears out his welcome.   Hurley will be older with another championship.  Knicks may not be able to afford him.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Sultan

Quote from: Viper on June 27, 2024, 11:03:48 AM
100%. For example, the Milwaukee Bucks drafted on potential looking 2-3 yrs down the road. AJ Johnson apparently had a great pre-draft and is not yet 20 yrs old, which sold the Bucks on the long view.  If TKo goes in todays 2nd rd, it might actually be better for him in the bigger picture since the drafting team is more-so selecting on fit.

I said this elsewhere, but this is exactly what I think is happening in the NBA right now. Teams are taking big swings on potential in the first round, but are looking more at high floor, low ceiling guys in the second. And second round picks are getting better contracts than back in the day. I could see Kolek getting a three or four year deal with two years guaranteed.
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Hards Alumni

Quote from: The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole on June 27, 2024, 11:24:54 AM
I said this elsewhere, but this is exactly what I think is happening in the NBA right now. Teams are taking big swings on potential in the first round, but are looking more at high floor, low ceiling guys in the second. And second round picks are getting better contracts than back in the day. I could see Kolek getting a three or four year deal with two years guaranteed.

Yep, agree.

MuggsyB

Quote from: tower912 on June 27, 2024, 10:27:07 AM
Shaka no longer needs to keep up with UConn, he needs to keep up with France.

Because the draft was 'weak', teams were drafting for size and potential.  And by potential, they are thinking of positionless basketball.    TKo is 6'1, has a defined position, and has likely maximized his potential.   Of all the players drafted in the first round, how many can he guard?   

You may be right Tower, but it's a complete misnomer that players don't improve or their potential is maximized because they spent years in college   Did Steve Nash improve in the NBA?  Jalen Brunson?  Curry?  Wade?  Butler?  Lowry?  Lillard?  Sam Hauser? Austin Reaves?  You can go on and on and on.

The Sultan

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 27, 2024, 12:10:27 PM
Did Steve Nash improve in the NBA?  Jalen Brunson?  Curry?  Wade?  Butler?  Lowry?  Lillard?  Sam Hauser? Austin Reaves?

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes and yes.
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Pakuni

Quote from: tower912 on June 27, 2024, 11:21:50 AM
Meh.  Thibs has 4-5 years before he wears out his welcome.   Hurley will be older with another championship.  Knicks may not be able to afford him.

Thibs is gone if they don't at least make the conference finals next season. Perhaps even if they don't win the East.

Knicks can afford anyone they want. Their estimated profit in 2023 was almost $170 million, which is more than twice that of 2/3rd of the league.

lawdog77

Quote from: MuggsyB on June 27, 2024, 12:10:27 PM
You may be right Tower, but it's a complete misnomer that players don't improve or their potential is maximized because they spent years in college   Did Steve Nash improve in the NBA?  Jalen Brunson?  Curry?  Wade?  Butler?  Lowry?  Lillard?  Sam Hauser? Austin Reaves?  You can go on and on and on.
I am pretty sure everyone improves when they get to the NBA

79Warrior

Quote from: tower912 on June 27, 2024, 11:21:50 AM
Meh.  Thibs has 4-5 years before he wears out his welcome.   Hurley will be older with another championship.  Knicks may not be able to afford him.

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