2024 Mock Drafts

[tower912]

Why?  He has a degree and an MBA.  There are no classes left at MU for him.   He will be fine.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Feel a bit bad for Oso, I'm sure he was ready to move on but falling to late second round when you still have eligibility is rough. Wonder what the opportune cost will end up being.

Mods have really added some cool features! Didn’t realize you could post from the future now.

But seriously do you think an extra year of school was going to help him? He has two degrees. He will earn a lot of money playing basketball somewhere.

[MuMark]

Feel a bit bad for Oso, I'm sure he was ready to move on but falling to late second round when you still have eligibility is rough. Wonder what the opportune cost will end up being.

He will be fine……worst case for him is a 2 way deal……

[Pakuni]

There's also this weird notion that players only develop in college.
Oso is more likely to become an NBA player by making basketball a full-time job with the benefit of professional coaching than he would with another season at Marquette.

[We R Final Four]

Feel a bit bad for Oso, I'm sure he was ready to move on but falling to late second round when you still have eligibility is rough. Wonder what the opportune cost will end up being.

He was ready to move…..he said so early on.
Eligibility smeligibilty. He was leaving.

[Uncle Rico]

Glad he’ll bomb out

[Nukem2]

There's also this weird notion that players only develop in college.
Oso is more likely to become an NBA player by making basketball a full-time job with the benefit of professional coaching than he would with another season at Marquette.

Dont know that the coaching is all that much better in the pros compared to high Div I,  probably more about all the extra available time? College coaches have restrictions on time spent with the players.

[MuggsyB]

Dont know that the coaching is all that much better in the pros compared to high Div I,  probably more about all the extra available time? College coaches have restrictions on time spent with the players.

Oso has improved significantly every season at MU.  I think your point is quite fair Nuke. 

[lawdog77]

There's also this weird notion that players only develop in college.
Oso is more likely to become an NBA player by making basketball a full-time job with the benefit of professional coaching than he would with another season at Marquette.

Does anyone have stats showing the number of borderline draft picks who stay at school versus those who stay in the draft, in terms of percentage who make the NBA?

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Dont know that the coaching is all that much better in the pros compared to high Div I,  probably more about all the extra available time? College coaches have restrictions on time spent with the players.

NBA coaches are way better at getting players ready for the NBA.

[Uncle Rico]

NBA coaches are way better at getting players ready for the NBA.

If Oso had stayed in school, Shaka could have improved his wingspan

[MU82]

Does anyone have stats showing the number of borderline draft picks who stay at school versus those who stay in the draft, in terms of percentage who make the NBA?

Yes, but if I tell you what it is, I'd have to kill you.

[lawdog77]

NBA coaches are way better at getting players ready for the NBA.

Of course, but having a coach get you ready for the NBA is different that being able to get a first round deal by blowing up in college. Not talking about Oso, but just in general. Because if the statement that G league coaches can get you better prepped for the NBA, then nobody should stay in college after year 1.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Of course, but having a coach get you ready for the NBA is different that being able to get a first round deal by blowing up in college. Not talking about Oso, but just in general. Because if the statement that G league coaches can get you better prepped for the NBA, then nobody should stay in college after year 1.

Any improvement Oso sees with one additional year at Marquette would be marginal at best. He's not suddenly going to start dropping threes.

[lawdog77]

Any improvement Oso sees with one additional year at Marquette would be marginal at best. He's not suddenly going to start dropping threes.

Wasn't talking about Oso. Just the blanket statement that Gleague , or other pro coaching will best prepare you for the NBA.

[WhiteTrash]

Any improvement Oso sees with one additional year at Marquette would be marginal at best. He's not suddenly going to start dropping threes.

Agreed. BTW, did we ever find out what happened the last few weeks of the season with him? He was clearly not himself and his play suffered (draft projections started falling too). Not saying he or Shaka owe us any information, just curious what happened.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Wasn't talking about Oso. Just the blanket statement that Gleague , or other pro coaching will best prepare you for the NBA.

I never mentioned G-League or other pro coaching.

[lawdog77]

I never mentioned G-League or other pro coaching.

Well, you are getting "NBA coaching" if you have an NBA contract, so that's not what the point is. The argument is whether staying an extra year versus going pro will get you to the NBA.

[Juan Anderson's Mixtape]

Today's word of the day:

non sequitur

[Uncle Rico]

Well, you are getting "NBA coaching" if you have an NBA contract, so that's not what the point is. The argument is whether staying an extra year versus going pro will get you to the NBA.

In this instance, staying another year in school for Oso would have been pointless.

There is nothing this staff could do or should do to help his NBA chances at the expense of the team.

The thing that holds Oso back is his physical limitations.  That isn’t changing at Marquette

[Galway Eagle]

Why?  He has a degree and an MBA.  There are no classes left at MU for him.   He will be fine.

1) money in the table. I honestly don't know (as I mentioned opportune cost) but highly doubt a late second round pick is making what he could have in NIL returning.

2) general fan environment, there isn't a g league team that's competing with our atmosphere and amenities

3) long distance relationship. I'm team Liza Karlen and Oso having a super baby that brings Marquette to glory some day.

But essentially if pitch ask me "for minimal money and to play in front of nobody, you get to be away from the girl you dated for three years of college, and be coached by subpar coaches. But you may get called up to the NBA!" I'd personally pass but that's just me.

[Galway Eagle]

There's also this weird notion that players only develop in college.
Oso is more likely to become an NBA player by making basketball a full-time job with the benefit of professional coaching than he would with another season at Marquette.

Never mentioned anything about development? I agree for the most part that being last man on an NBA bench is better for development. I'm not sold on that being true in the GLeague as there's at least one subpar coach coaching an MU guy (again) in that league.

[MuggsyB]

I actually think Oso being forced to take over as the #1 guy at MU could have been helpful in his development.

[MuggsyB]

I doubt it's going to happen, but I will be exceedingly angry if Tyko does not go 15-30 tonight and has to wait until tomorrow to be picked. 

[MU82]

A player can get excellent coaching and can develop well in college. A player can get excellent coaching and can develop well in the pros.
 
To my knowledge, there are no accepted studies proving that one is better than the other, although one might be better than the other for each case.

And even for a particular athlete, one level could be better than the other at a certain stage of his or her career, while the other level could be better at another stage.

For example, I think it's quite reasonable to say that being at Marquette for the 2022-23 and 2023-24 seasons was the best way for Oso to develop into a pro-worthy player, and that leaving Marquette for the professional ranks will be the best way to continue his development.