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Quote from: willie warrior on March 25, 2024, 05:15:05 PM
Then he needs to come back and work on his game. Bigs are now expected to be able to shoot in the NBA.

Nope.

Pakuni

New ESPN mock:
Kolek #29
Oso ... undrafted

WhiteTrash

Quote from: Pakuni on April 02, 2024, 09:02:56 AM
New ESPN mock:
Kolek #29
Oso ... undrafted
Not surprised by either.

This is very strange to say, but I hope Oso has been dealing with an issue. Something that is being or has been addressed and that NBA scouts can wrap their heads around to explain the level of play the past 3-4 weeks.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: Pakuni on April 02, 2024, 09:02:56 AM
New ESPN mock:
Kolek #29
Oso ... undrafted

Yeah, Oso more or less disappearing in the BET and NCAA crushed his draft stock. 
Quote from: Goose on February 09, 2017, 11:06:04 AM
I would take the Rick SLU program right now.

MU82

Oso had 20 points against Providence, when his arm was practically yanked out of its socket by Oduro. He then was too passive against Clingan before he went to the bench early with some kind of leg injury. He did not have his usual bounce in the NCAAs, and I can't help but think it's related to those injuries.

But yes, performing poorly on the big stage had to have hurt him. Hopefully he'll be 100% and will get wow the scouts again at the Combine and in individual workouts for teams.
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Zog from Margo

Quote from: willie warrior on March 25, 2024, 05:15:05 PM
Then he needs to come back and work on his game. Bigs are now expected to be able to shoot in the NBA.

I think he's more likely to play in Europe than come back to MU. He seems ready to be done with college.

MUbiz

I have seen Oso in early second round in the ringer and NBA draft.net boards yet. But yes, he fell off the ESPN board.

Its DJOver

Oso didn't help his stock, but I also don't think that he hurt it all that much.  NBA drafts on potential, if an NBA team thought they could develop him three weeks ago, I don't know why they wouldn't still. 

Also, outside of the very obvious top of draft decisions, I feel like mock drafts are really all over the place.

The Ringer, updated last week still had Oso as a first rounder, and TKO as a second rounder. Both behind Devin Carter who hasn't even played the last few weeks and Reed Sheppard who ended his season with a grand total of 3 points in Kentucky's loss to Oakland.  Think fans tend to dive too deep into box scores and don't look at what a player has the potential to be in 3-5 years.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/mock-draft
Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

MU82

He should come back to get his doctorate so that he can continue to entertain fans, some of whom will crap on him if he doesn't meet their expectations.
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lawdog77

Quote from: MU82 on April 02, 2024, 09:47:58 AM
He should come back to get his doctorate so that he can continue to entertain fans, some of whom will crap on him if he doesn't meet their expectations.
No different than the NBA

WhiteTrash

Quote from: lawdog77 on April 02, 2024, 09:49:11 AM
No different than the NBA
All pro sports are entertainment. MU, Bucks, Brewers, all are here for our entertainment.

NickelDimer

Let's see where Oso's mocked after he tests. There are some NBA teams that will love him and not care too much about his tourney performance
No Finish Line

Jockey

Quote from: NickelDimer on April 02, 2024, 11:28:12 AM
Let's see where Oso's mocked after he tests. There are some NBA teams that will love him and not care too much about his tourney performance

This is what it is about. It all comes down to individual workouts for teams. I, too, think he was injured, so I think after the workouts, he will be somewhere in the 30-40 range.

Goose

I still think Oso goes in the first round. It just takes one team that thinks they have the right plan for him. IMO, the handful of really good Oso games is what that one team will remember.

MU82

Quote from: Goose on April 02, 2024, 01:41:37 PM
I still think Oso goes in the first round. It just takes one team that thinks they have the right plan for him. IMO, the handful of really good Oso games is what that one team will remember.

I agree, except I think Oso had more than a handful of really good games.

Until the last couple weeks, he was one of the very best bigs in the country. He was consistently outstanding, his unique skill set at both ends of the court bedeviled opponents, and he outplayed the likes of Dickinson and Kalkbrenner, and even Clingan the second time.

We'll see soon enough how good scouts' memories of him are, but I'm not gonna let a couple bad weeks - when I'm pretty sure he was battling injuries - change my perception of him.
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Uncle Rico

If you read anyone posting something along the lines of Oso needs to come back and work on his game in college as a 22 year-old, go ahead and ignore them.  They don't know ball.

What about his lack of a jump shot?  You're right, he should definitely comeback to a program that specializes on jump shots and work on that there.

Well, he had a bad March.  Great point.  Looking back at the last handful of drafts, you see a litany of players whose careers ended because of a bad month, erasing all the hours of film and scouting done on them prior.

Going to be a long off-season
Kam and the Warriors blowing it just like at Dayton. Bet your heads out of your asses.

Goose

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I agree Oso had more than a handful, but I thought he had 4-5 exceptional games and looked like one of the best big in the country those nights. IMO, he did not help himself the last two weeks and did not hurt himself either. That said, he probably hurt his chances of climbing the board in the NCAA, but likely did not cost himself much.

MU82

Quote from: Goose on April 02, 2024, 02:06:44 PM
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I agree Oso had more than a handful, but I thought he had 4-5 exceptional games and looked like one of the best big in the country those nights. IMO, he did not help himself the last two weeks and did not hurt himself either. That said, he probably hurt his chances of climbing the board in the NCAA, but likely did not cost himself much.

Fair enough, Goose.

We sure were lucky to get to watch Oso and TK, especially these last 2 years.
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Lennys Tap

Quote from: Goose on April 02, 2024, 01:41:37 PM
I still think Oso goes in the first round. It just takes one team that thinks they have the right plan for him. IMO, the handful of really good Oso games is what that one team will remember.

Maybe, but I'm somewhat skeptical. Oso had a great career at MU both on and off the court - a special person and player. His one drawback (aside from shooting) was that he went through periods when he was passive. Those periods lasted much longer in the BE tournament and the NCAAs - the biggest stages, the brightest lights. I think he hurt himself in the draft but I hope I'm wrong.

MU82

Kolek up to #20 on The  Athletic's 2024 NBA Draft "big board." One ahead of Edey.

Oso at #42.

A few others of note ...

Two UConn players in the top 5 - Castle at #3 and Clingan at #5. Also, Karaban at #33, Spencer at #43, Newton at #50.

Devin Carter at #15, with commentary that he'll be an immediate contributor because of his defensive ability.

Two Colorado players in top 20 - Williams at #9 and de Silva at #19. Plus Simpson at #51. That was a good team MU beat.

Scheierman at #27 and Alexander at #37.


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wadesworld

Quote from: MU82 on April 19, 2024, 11:04:25 AM
Kolek up to #20 on The  Athletic's 2024 NBA Draft "big board." One ahead of Edey.

Oso at #42.

A few others of note ...

Two UConn players in the top 5 - Castle at #3 and Clingan at #5. Also, Karaban at #33, Spencer at #43, Newton at #50.

Devin Carter at #15, with commentary that he'll be an immediate contributor because of his defensive ability.

Two Colorado players in top 20 - Williams at #9 and de Silva at #19. Plus Simpson at #51. That was a good team MU beat.

Scheierman at #27 and Alexander at #37.

Good luck to anyone taking Baylor Scheierman in the first round.

Jockey

Quote from: wadesworld on April 19, 2024, 11:24:20 AM
Good luck to anyone taking Baylor Scheierman in the first round.

He's way better than Sam Hauser who has played a lot this year. He'll be a scorer off the bench - maybe even as a rookie.

MU82

Hauser shot 44% from 3 at Marquette and Virginia.

In 2 seasons of high-major hoops, Scheierman shot 37%.

Hauser was considered an elite shooter. We'll see if Scheierman gets similar consideration. Scheierman was a better rebounder FWIW. Neither won any defensive awards.
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Johnny B

I'm hearing this is like a historically terrible draft class

wadesworld

Quote from: Jockey on April 19, 2024, 11:52:48 AM
He's way better than Sam Hauser who has played a lot this year. He'll be a scorer off the bench - maybe even as a rookie.

Good luck to anyone taking Baylor Scheierman in the 1st round.

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