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Started by MuggsyB, October 30, 2023, 08:34:05 AM

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MuggsyB

Come out of the gates quickly in November.  We're a week away!!  I think our experience should give us an advantage with the difficult schedule but make no mistake, we will have our hands full. Do we have an NIU scouting report?  I think it's vitally important to hit the trifecta before heading to Hawaii.

MU82

I'll do everything in my power to make sure Marquette has a hot start to the season.

For one thing, I won't expect a victory over Northern Illinois, Because everybody knows that when fans do such things, it directly affects the team's performance on the court.
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Quote from: MuggsyB on October 30, 2023, 08:34:05 AM
Come out of the gates quickly in November.  We're a week away!!  I think our experience should give us an advantage with the difficult schedule but make no mistake, we will have our hands full. Do we have an NIU scouting report?  I think it's vitally important to hit the trifecta before heading to Hawaii.

Cracked Sidewalks has done previews for all Marquette opponents and have posted them on Scoop. If you go here and look at the archive, you can find all of them.

https://www.crackedsidewalks.com/
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Jay Bee

2-3 vs D-I teams by the time we head home from Oahu. But, there will be no bad losses.
REJOICE! Eric Dixon has been suspended!!

Shooter McGavin

Quote from: Jay Bee on October 30, 2023, 09:04:34 AM
2-3 vs D-I teams by the time we head home from Oahu. But, there will be no bad losses.

Dang, JB.  Hope you are wrong and MU isn't clawing its way back into the top 25 all year or just outside of it. That would be a reality check.  Because with MUs continuity they should have an advantage out of the gate.

Dickthedribbler

Quote from: MuggsyB on October 30, 2023, 08:34:05 AM
Come out of the gates quickly in November.  We're a week away!!  I think our experience should give us an advantage with the difficult schedule but make no mistake, we will have our hands full. Do we have an NIU scouting report?  I think it's vitally important to hit the trifecta before heading to Hawaii.

Agreed 100%.

Jay Bee

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 30, 2023, 11:40:16 AM
Dang, JB.  Hope you are wrong and MU isn't clawing its way back into the top 25 all year or just outside of it. That would be a reality check.  Because with MUs continuity they should have an advantage out of the gate.

Our schedule is tough. 2-3 would mean we lost to 3 good teams, all away from home
REJOICE! Eric Dixon has been suspended!!

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Jay Bee on October 30, 2023, 12:49:30 PM
Our schedule is tough. 2-3 would mean we lost to 3 good teams, all away from home

Scoop will be melting down.

Dickthedribbler

I'm going to hold off on predictions about how we'll fare in Hawaii until I see the Illinois game. I think Champaign has historically been a tough place for visitors to play and UI is supposed to be good this year. An MU win there will really get me geeked up for the 3 games in Hawaii.

mug644

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on October 30, 2023, 12:59:31 PM
I'm going to hold off on predictions about how we'll fare in Hawaii until I see the Illinois game. I think Champaign has historically been a tough place for visitors to play and UI is supposed to be good this year. An MU win there will really get me geeked up for the 3 games in Hawaii.

Yeah...I have in my mind that the Illinois game this year could be a bit like the Baylor game last year (though it was in MKE). If we pound Illinois like we did Baylor, I'm definitively going to be super optimistic heading to Hawaii. And, as mentioned above, losing games in Hawaii will likely be to strong teams.

Vander Blue Man Group

Quote from: Jay Bee on October 30, 2023, 09:04:34 AM
2-3 vs D-I teams by the time we head home from Oahu. But, there will be no bad losses.

COLE

barfolomew

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on October 30, 2023, 12:59:31 PM
I'm going to hold off on predictions about how we'll fare in Hawaii until I see the Illinois game. I think Champaign has historically been a tough place for visitors to play and UI is supposed to be good this year. An MU win there will really get me geeked up for the 3 games in Hawaii.

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Quote from: Jay Bee on October 30, 2023, 09:04:34 AM
2-3 vs D-I teams by the time we head home from Oahu. But, there will be no bad losses.
I agree with this analysis.
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Quote from: Herman Cain on October 30, 2023, 02:16:49 PM
I agree with this analysis.

Yes, we know.  You think they're going to finish .500 this year
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PointWarrior

how are we talking about their record after 6 games already?

We have been told many times on this board to only look at the next game....

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Quote from: PointWarrior on October 30, 2023, 05:54:34 PM
how are we talking about their record after 6 games already?

We have been told many times on this board to only look at the next game....

Wait I thought we weren't allowed an opinion until we get to five years worth of games.

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Quote from: Dickthedribbler on October 30, 2023, 12:59:31 PM
I'm going to hold off on predictions about how we'll fare in Hawaii until I see the Illinois game. I think Champaign has historically been a tough place for visitors to play and UI is supposed to be good this year. An MU win there will really get me geeked up for the 3 games in Hawaii.

I saw us win at U of I when KO was at the helm and Tony Miller was our PG. Illinois was highly ranked, led by Richard Keane. Four of us took a limo from Chicago (including former Illini standout Perry Range). Marcus Liberty was redshirting and he joined us for a couple of Michelobs in the limo after the game. Fun times.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on October 30, 2023, 12:59:31 PM
I'm going to hold off on predictions about how we'll fare in Hawaii until I see the Illinois game. I think Champaign has historically been a tough place for visitors to play and UI is supposed to be good this year. An MU win there will really get me geeked up for the 3 games in Hawaii.

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We R Final Four

Quote from: Shooter McGavin on October 30, 2023, 11:40:16 AM
Dang, JB.  Hope you are wrong and MU isn't clawing its way back into the top 25 all year or just outside of it. That would be a reality check.  Because with MUs continuity they should have an advantage out of the gate.
JB could be right...and we could still be in the top 25.

Shooter McGavin

True.  I just don't want to test the theory.  Would be nice to go into Oahu with momentum, undefeated and beat UCLA.  Would like to stay top ten all year.  Non MU friends who usually give the courtesy ask about how MU will be this year are now paying attention because of the top 5 ranking.  A top ten ranking means something to sports fans who would normally not pay attention.  I'd like the team to keep this casual interest all year.

Either way, all that matters is the NCAA tournament but it would be nice to go in as a dominant team with an impressive resume and that starts in November.  Would be fun to truly live up to that ranking.

Vander Blue Man Group

#22
To say Marquette comes home from Hawaii at 2-3 means losses to IL, UCLA and a loss to one of Syracuse, TN, Purdue or Gonzaga.

Not happening. And the complete lack of figurative fan balls to think that's going to happen is something else.

Jay Bee

Quote from: Vander Blue Man Group on October 31, 2023, 02:40:50 AM
To say Marquette comes home from Hawaii at 2-3 means losses to IL, UCLA and a loss to one of Syracuse, TN, Purdue or Gonzaga.

Not happening. And the complete lack of figurative fan balls to think that's going to happen is something else.

KenPom & torvik project a loss at Illinois. Both project a narrow win vs UCLA (56-59% probability).  Zags, tenn & Purdue all ahead of us in both.

It's not some crazy scenario.
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brewcity77

How the models are designed impact that heavily. I think Pomeroy uses the past 5 years of data for a baseline, so when you see Marquette at #11, the Wojo years are having a big impact on that.

I asked him if coaches impact that (so does having Shaka now instead of Wojo offset that) and he said no, he's just looking at program rankings.

Because of that, it's not just possible but highly, highly probable that the computer models have us artificially low to start the season.
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