Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[4everwarriors]

That's what Doc's boy, soon-to-be-ex-GOP-prez-candidate DeSantis, would claim.

Shocked that you're not pushing back on Pakman's shameful statement of hate, hey?

[tower912]

You are missing the clear sarcasm and references to statements made about slavery by politicians and educational curriculum.

[4everwarriors]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but I don't find comments like yours to be funny, hey?

[Pakuni]

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, but I don't find comments like yours to be funny, hey?

Of course not. It pokes fun of people who think like you.

https://www.businessinsider.com/desantis-says-black-people-benefited-from-skills-learned-in-slavery-2023-7

[4everwarriors]

Sadly, Gov. DeSantis has no chance at the nomination. IMO, he ran a terrible campaign and simply doesn't connect with voters. Too bad, because I believe he would have made a terrific POTUS, hey?

[Pakuni]

Sadly, Gov. DeSantis has no chance at the nomination. IMO, he ran a terrible campaign and simply doesn't connect with voters. Too bad, because I believe he would have made a terrific POTUS, hey?

Scott Walker, Part II
And like most sequels to bad movies, it managed to be even worse.

[MU82]

Shocked that you're not pushing back on Pakman's shameful statement of hate, hey?

Shocked that you weren't able to understand a sarcastic line. Did you also think All in the Family was making fun of Jews rather than antisemites?

Sadly, Gov. DeSantis has no chance at the nomination. IMO, he ran a terrible campaign and simply doesn't connect with voters. Too bad, because I believe he would have made a terrific POTUS, hey?

I'm not a fan of politicians who ban books and who think slavery had its good points. But sure, anybody would be better than the charlatan your cult worships.

[Shaka Shart]

You are full of chit. Won't let you spit your hatred unchecked, aina?

#fromtherivertothesea



#neveragain

https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1748045086812692757?s=46&t=G2FhP_F2kWewaBOpvRv5lg

We should revoke his MIT degree for his antisemitic remarks.

[TSmith34, Inc.]

You are full of chit. Won't let you spit your hatred unchecked, aina?

#fromtherivertothesea



#neveragain

Whoosh

[TSmith34, Inc.]

Sadly, Gov. DeSantis has no chance at the nomination. IMO, he ran a terrible campaign and simply doesn't connect with voters. Too bad, because I believe he would have made a terrific POTUS, hey?

The guy that said slaves benefited from being slaves is your kind of POTUS, eh?  On brand.

[4everwarriors]

Were you home schooled, hey?

[jesmu84]

https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1748045086812692757?s=46&t=G2FhP_F2kWewaBOpvRv5lg

We should revoke his MIT degree for his antisemitic remarks.

#fromtherivertothesea

[TSmith34, Inc.]

"DeSantis says Black people benefited from slavery by learning skills like 'being a blacksmith'"

"I believe he would have made a terrific POTUS" – 4Qver

[Uncle Rico]

There are deniers throughout the world. But, there are 6 million reasons to refute them, aina?


#neveragain

Hopefully, legislators and governors across this country understand why it's important to teach history, all of it, not just the stuff that doesn't make America look bad.  I'm not counting on it, though

[forgetful]

#fromtherivertothesea

If it is called genocidal for one side to make such statements, it is genocidal for any side to make such a statement.

[4everwarriors]

Here ya goe, hey?

According to legal scholars Amichai Cohen and Yuval Shany, the definition of genocide is "well settled" and "commonly agreed." There is a consensus that "genocide involves killing members of a national or ethnic group, causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group and inflicting conditions of life calculated to bring about the group's physical destruction in whole or in part."

Despite the baseless accusations against Israel at the International Court of Justice, this is not happening in Gaza. Nonetheless, the ICJ blood libel is an object lesson in how the international anti-Israel mob works. Slandering Israel and Jews is a time-honored method of diverting attention from the depredations of others. It also erases the victims of these crimes without so much as a crocodile tear.

Here are some examples of such depredations:

Darfur, Sudan: In 2007, then-U.S. Secretary of State Colin Powell described the situation in Darfur as genocide. The U.N. estimates that by 2016, 300,000 people had been killed and there was credible evidence that the Sudanese government used chemical weapons against the local population. Since Feb. 2023, government-sponsored militias have killed an estimated 400,000 people through starvation and disease. Mass rape has also occurred. More than 2.5 million people have been internally displaced and over 200,000 have fled to Chad.

Rwanda: From April-July 1994, an estimated 800,000 people—one-tenth of the entire population—were killed and much of the remaining population displaced.

Bosnia: In 1992, more than 200,000 Muslim civilians were systematically murdered and two million became refugees at the hands of the Serbs. Rape was a systematic part of these atrocities.

Cambodia: From 1975-1979, 25% of the population died from starvation, overwork and execution under the Khmer Rouge.

East Timor: During a 24-year occupation by Indonesia that ended in 1999, more than 20% of the population was massacred and 80% of structures in the country were incinerated.

Guatemala: From 1978-1983, government forces carried out massacres and civilian executions of an estimated 200,000 people. There were at least 40,000 "disappearances." The Maya population constituted 83% of the identified victims. The event is known as the Maya Genocide.

Armenia: From 1915-1916, between 664,000 and 1.2 million Armenians were killed  by Turkey, either in mass executions and individual killings or from the brutality and deprivation of forced deportations.

Add to that the horrific death counts that may or may not meet the precise definition of genocide. Approximately 500,000 Syrians, mostly Sunni Muslims, have been killed by dictator Bashar Assad's regime, including through the use of chemical weapons. More than 11 million Syrians have become either internal or external refugees.

Nearly 400,000 have been killed in Yemen. The International Rescue Committee estimates that 5.4 million Congolese have been killed in a war that continues today, with Christians being disproportionately targeted. As of 2023, 187,000-210,000 are estimated to have been killed in Iraq and 236,000 in Afghanistan.

China gets special mention.

The country's 1958 "Great Leap Forward" destroyed the agricultural system, causing a famine in which 27 million people starved to death. This was not directed at a specific ethnic group, so it may not qualify as genocide; but in 2021, U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken called China's treatment of its Turkic Muslim Uyghur population a genocide.

Findings by Genocide Watch bear him out:

Since 2017, between 800,000-2,000,000 million Uyghurs have been held in Xinjiang's concentration prisons, commonly referred to as "reeducation camps." Uyghurs are forced to participate in [Chinese Communist Party] indoctrination programs in which detainees are forced to abandon their Muslim faith and culture. The CCP forbids use of the Uyghur language and imposes Mandarin Chinese within these camps. Inside camps, CCP officials subject Uyghurs to physical beatings, sexual assault and gang rapes of women.

Despite all this, the international community prefers to focus on defaming Israel for daring to conduct a legitimate war of self-defense launched only after Hamas raped, tortured, mutilated and burned to death 1,200 Israelis and carried off 240 more as hostages.

One of the most powerful denunciations of this campaign of slander came from a country that has the moral authority to speak on the subject: Germany.

German government spokesman Steffen Hebestreit said in a statement last week, "In light of German history and the crimes against humanity of the Shoah, the German government is particularly committed to the [U.N.] Genocide Convention." For this reason, he said, "We stand firmly against a political instrumentalization" of the Convention.

Acknowledging divergent views in the international community on Israel's military operations, he nonetheless asserted, "The German government decisively and expressly rejects the accusation of genocide brought against Israel before the International Court of Justice. The accusation has no basis in fact."

[jesmu84]

Here ya goe, hey?

🤡

[Shaka Shart]

Not reading all that, just let me know if it's genocidal to say that phrase or not.

Also this week Germany and France basically acknowledge here that there's justification and much lower standards of violent restraints due to past atrocities done to the Jewish people.

That suggests they know what's happening at the hands of Israel is barbaric but since one of the worst atrocities in human history happened to the decedents of the people perpetrating it, we do not enforce our international standards.

You are free to agree or disagree with that logic I guess but I think it says all it needs to say about the severity of actual events that are occurring.

Aka two wrongs are making a right

[forgetful]

Here ya goe, hey?

Bosnia: In 1992, more than 200,000 Muslim civilians were systematically murdered and two million became refugees at the hands of the Serbs. Rape was a systematic part of these atrocities.

Israel should be careful with this reference.

1. 200,000 civilians were not systematically murdered. 100,000 died in a civil war, only 80,000 of whom were Bosniaks.

So if Israel wants to call 80,000 people dying in a 3-year long civil war, genocide. Then what is 25,000 civilian deaths in ~4 months considered?

2. Many of the crimes the Serbs were tried for was due to internal displacement of people, which was deemed ethnic cleansing.

So if they want to draw attention to this, they have to review their own forced internal displacement of the Palestinians.

And yes, Milosevic was a war criminal who committed genocide and ethnic cleansing.


Really stupid to use this example.

[WellsstreetWanderer]

How can any argument claiming  genocide by Israel resolve the fact that the population of  Arabs in Israel went from less than 100K to almost 300k in the last 80 years . Many have spoken out about how Israel has been the only place in the Middle East where they have hope for a better life and serve in all branches of Israeli government. Facts don't give with the rhetoric while the other side is committed to the destruction of a functioning state.

[jesmu84]

https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1748155046397653087?t=hz0vmvN85jfB1b6YqhTqVw&s=19

Progress on a Palestinian state agreement

[4everwarriors]

Neva gonna work, so neva gonna happen, hey?

#fromtherivertothesea

#neveragain

[Shaka Shart]

Neva gonna work, so neva gonna happen, hey?

#fromtherivertothesea

#neveragain

Do you mean that in the Palestinian way or the Netanyahu way?

[4everwarriors]

Both, hey?

[Hards Alumni]

Neva gonna work, so neva gonna happen, hey?

#fromtherivertothesea

#neveragain

I'm sure they've got you on speed dial for advice.  White Christian Male from Mequon, Wisconsin.