Was: Israel is at War; Now: Scoopers diagnose your anti-Semitism

[MU82]

Horrific story in Gaza, where Israeli military killed 3 Israeli hostages - even though the hostages were waving a white flag.

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/12/16/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news?campaign_id=60&emc=edit_na_20231216&instance_id=0&nl=breaking-news&ref=headline&regi_id=108420427&segment_id=152779&user_id=d36dcf821462fdd16ec3636710a855fa#the-deaths-highlight-the-dire-risks-faced-by-the-remaining-hostages

The three Israeli hostages who were shot and killed by Israeli forces in Gaza on Friday were bearing a makeshift white flag, the military said on Saturday, asserting that the soldiers had violated the military's rules of engagement.

The Israeli military announced the accidental killings on Friday, hours after saying it had recovered the bodies of three other Israeli hostages in Gaza. The deaths underscore the continuing risks for the more than 120 people who Israel says remain in captivity after being kidnapped during the Hamas attack on Israel on Oct. 7.

In a written statement sent to The New York Times, describing the results of a preliminary inquiry, the Israeli military said its soldiers had been operating in Shejaiya, an area of Gaza City that has seen intense fighting. The soldiers were on alert for attempts by Hamas to ambush Israeli forces, possibly in civilian clothes, the military said.

On Friday, the three hostages emerged, shirtless, from a building tens of yards away from the Israeli soldiers, bearing a stick with a white cloth, the military said in a preliminary investigation. One of the soldiers, believing they posed a threat, opened fire on the three hostages, killing two of them and wounding the third, the early investigation found.

The third fled into the building, from which a cry in Hebrew for help could be heard. The battalion commander ordered the forces to hold their fire. But the wounded hostage later re-emerged, after which he was shot and killed, the military statement said.

In a briefing with reporters, an Israeli military official called the incident a violation of the military's regulations. The hostages may have escaped or been abandoned by their captors, the official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity under military protocol.

Sorry for delivering that sad news on the war. Now feel free to resume the discussion about elite U.S. colleges, because they really affect what's going on in Israel.

[Uncle Rico]

The suffering comes in other ways.


Harvard president's handling of antisemitism has cost school more than $1 billion
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/harvard-presidents-handling-antisemitism-cost-school-1-billion-ackman

The game has changed

December 14, 2023
A New Playbook for College Donors: Power Politics
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/13/us/universities-donors-penn-harvard.html
Donations to U.S. universities reached $59.5 billion last year, and they come increasingly from a smaller group of wealthy donors. Many of them expect their money to buy a voice in university affairs.

She should stay on as long as Tucker Carlson and Elon Musk have platforms.  If they allow anti-semitism to have a voice on their platforms, why are we firing university presidents.

X is losing money by the millions because of the virulent anti-semitism espoused on the platform and yet, Elon is allowed to go unchecked and peddle in conspiracy theories and promote anti-semites.

It's clear X is doomed and by association, Tesla is doomed.  Sad

[NCMUFan]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/elon-musk-curses-out-advertisers-who-left-x-over-antisemitic-content-2023-11-29/

Guess Space-X is a goner also.

[Uncle Rico]

https://www.reuters.com/technology/elon-musk-curses-out-advertisers-who-left-x-over-antisemitic-content-2023-11-29/

Guess Space-X is a goner also.

Good.  My only worry is, he's one of the protected classes

[TSmith34, Inc.]

But Douchey doesn't call out Musk because he "doesn't care about Musk", and 4Qver doesn't call him out because he is a raging hyporcrite Musk is just a pawn.

[4everwarriors]

lol. This hasn't cost Harvard $1B. Such nonsense.

Oh, this will end up costing them $billions. Their entire culture has been changed. Should have kicked Gay to the curb for plagiarism at the very least. Harvard will not be the same, hey?

#dependsonthecontext

[Uncle Rico]

Oh, this will end up costing them $billions. Their entire culture has been changed. Should have kicked Gay to the curb for plagiarism at the very least. Harvard will not be the same, hey?

#dependsonthecontext

Neither will X, Tesla and SpaceX

#doomed

[4everwarriors]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/14/us/jewish-families-elite-schools-antisemitism/index.html

[Pakuni]

https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/14/us/jewish-families-elite-schools-antisemitism/index.html

Penn receives about 40,000 applicants a year, and rejects about 36,000 of them
Losing out on the chance to reject Anna from Atlanta isn't the devastating setback you wish it were.

[4everwarriors]

Ya never know when an Anna may develop a vaccine that actually prevents covid or donates $100 mil to Harvard. As I said Harvard's culture has changed with its failure to chit can Gay, hey?

[Uncle Rico]

Ya never know when an Anna may develop a vaccine that actually prevents covid or donates $100 mil to Harvard. As I said Harvard's culture has changed with its failure to chit can Gay, hey?

Sure, Jan

[Uncle Rico]

https://forward.com/fast-forward/566706/vivek-ramaswamy-alex-jones-israel-hamas-gop-2024/?amp=1

[jesmu84]

Oh, this will end up costing them $billions. Their entire culture has been changed. Should have kicked Gay to the curb for plagiarism at the very least. Harvard will not be the same, hey?

#dependsonthecontext

Why was the plagiarism stuff only brought to significant light now? Wasn't that from some time ago and has been public knowledge for some time?

[4everwarriors]

Regardless, she should have been terminated immediately following verification of her plagiarism. Shame on Harvard, aina?

[Uncle Rico]

Regardless, she should have been terminated immediately following verification of her plagiarism. Shame on Harvard, aina?

Once she's fired, that will change the direction of the war.  That and President Biden's administration bypassing congress to get Israel needed weapons

[Pakuni]

Once she's fired, that will change the direction of the war.  That and President Biden's administration bypassing congress to get Israel needed weapons

Also, antisemitism will end. At least the non-pawn kind.

[21Jumpstreet]

Ivy institutions are being affected, and things will change. Will they suffer, of course, they are suffering. Will it spell doom, I don't think so.

My question to H2O and 4E is do you think this backlash against the Harvard's of higher education will last? Is it our normal cycle where we all get outraged then is back to business as usual? Will Ackman actually not hire Harvard grads? For how long?

I fear a lot is this is political theater and opportunistic grandstanding where only the elite gain and the people again lose. Like we see when we proclaim generalities about Israelis or Jews and Palestinians or Muslims, we will see these loud mouths initially generalize an entire university or student body only to walk it back when rationality and reasonability return.

Do we actually want the loudest, richest, elitist white men determining anything? Especially what is taught at and who is in charge of our universities. I admit, I am more of a free speech absolutist than not (I know that statement in itself is a mess, but I've never been one to be 100% on much, so I have to leave room for discussion) and am really disappointed that Magill resigned and that Gay and Kornbluth were put in a no win situation. While I want them to say anything they'd like and allow the saying of anything on their campuses, I also really don't care much what the president of an elite university thinks about outside their school. They are not a bastion of wisdom any more than any of us are. I digress.

Someone I admired once told me, he who talks most ends up the biggest ass. I fear that we are saying a lot of angry, fearful, pointed, anti (enter group here) rhetoric that is not in the least helpful, because we like to say what we want and also try to stifle others from saying what they want.

[The Sultan]

Oh, this will end up costing them $billions. Their entire culture has been changed. Should have kicked Gay to the curb for plagiarism at the very least. Harvard will not be the same, hey?

#dependsonthecontext

You wish. But nope.

[Uncle Rico]

You wish. But nope.

Wishcasting because educated people scare them

[Shaka Shart]

I fear a lot is this is political theater and opportunistic grandstanding where only the elite gain and the people again lose. Like we see when we proclaim generalities about Israelis or Jews and Palestinians or Muslims, we will see these loud mouths initially generalize an entire university or student body only to walk it back when rationality and reasonability return.

Do we actually want the loudest, richest, elitist white men determining anything?

Yes they absolutely want that. Because "rich" and "looks like me"= must know better than others, is a common proud American sentiment these days despite a mountain of evidence to the contrary.

You're right though in that proclaiming sweeping generalities about a group of people is at best misguided and at worst bloodthirsty and homicidal. Nodding and excusing a person seeking out a random Israeli teenager and firing a gun at them because their leader is an incoherent self serving war monger is the same high level sentiment as shrugging off a nurse getting sniped in the window of a hospital in Gaza because she had the gall to stick around and care for those in need.

If we assume the least nefarious thought process, it's anti-intellectual culturally fearful laziness. As I've said before, a vast majority of the people in this world just want the same safe daily lives and are kind and caring individuals that we share a significant amount in common with.

[SoCalEagle]

Two months ago, when Ackman suggested he would not hire students who were in one of the clubs from Harvard that signed a letter blaming Israel for the October 7 attack on Israel, this was one person changing his firm's policy toward a specific group of students relating to one specific instance.

Now ... all students at Harvard are being made to pay the price of antisemitism and keeping Claudine Gay.

Do you think this stops with one random law firm?  Let's wait another two months after every Jewish member of a prestigious Law firm is asked why they are still recruiting at Harvard if it means they endorse Harvard's antisemitism and Claudine Gay. Then, every financial firm will ask its Jewish managing directors the same thing about recruiting at Harvard Business School. Then, every firm will be asked about recruiting undergraduates.

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December 14, 2023
Law firm Edelson boycotts Harvard recruiting events amid antisemitism controversy
https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/law-firm-edelson-boycotts-harvard-recruiting-events-amid-antisemitism-2023-12-14/

Plaintiffs' firm Edelson PC on Thursday said it is pulling out of upcoming recruiting events at Harvard Law School in protest of Harvard University President Claudine Gay's Congressional testimony last week regarding campus antisemitism.

The law firm told Harvard Law's career services office in a letter that it won't participate in its Spring Interview Program. That event, where employers interview law students on campus, begins Jan. 29. The firm will also skip Harvard's larger on-campus interviewing event in August, which is when Edelson and major corporate law firms hire the bulk of their summer associates, firm founder Jay Edelson told Reuters in an interview.

"This is not about Harvard law students," Edelson said. "This is about the leadership of Harvard and how much of a megaphone it has on the world stage. They should use that megaphone responsibly.

Pretty much, yes.  Unless you think that the white shoe law firms are gonna come knocking on Marquette's door to fill their prestigious ranks because of a disagreement about free speech on Ivy League campuses.  I would love it, and it's probably not a bad thing as Marquette graduates some very talented lawyers, but it aint gonna happen and we both know it.
By the way, if it did happen, how long would it take for someone to say, "yeah, but didn't they fire a professor a few years back that was tenured.  Wasn't the about academic freedom?  Let's hire from DePaul instead."  Laughable. 

[21Jumpstreet]

As I've said before, a vast majority of the people in this world just want the same safe daily lives and are kind and caring individuals that we share a significant amount in common with.

Couldn't agree more

[Lennys Tap]

Wishcasting because educated people scare them

Yep. Musk scares the sh!t out of them. And his credentials are real, not based on stealing someone else's ideas.

[Pakuni]

Yep. Musk scares the sh!t out of them. And his credentials are real, not based on stealing someone else's ideas.

Yeah, Elon's ideas are all his own.
lol.

[The Sultan]

Yeah its clear that Lenny's has a weird thing for Elon.