Homer and Tony Show No More

[Lennys Tap]

I trust George Thompson (his best friend) and D Wade over any of these keyboard warriors.

There's some (very biased) guy here who translates what you wrote as "He worked with a black guy once". You just can't talk common sense/logic to people who have a need to take (unwarranted and unasked for) offense for others.

[Tyler COLEk]

Homer is a BAD broadcaster. Very poor play-by-play chops. MU deserves better. You can keep Homer for special events or whatever all the boomer alums attend.

[Uncle Rico]

Homer is a BAD broadcaster. Very poor play-by-play chops. MU deserves better. You can keep Homer for special events or whatever all the boomer alums attend.

Yup.  He's really gone downhill.  It's a new era for Marquette basketball and the fan deserves announcers that understand what the current staff is implementing philosophically.  Homer ain't that at all.  Honestly, I'm surprised at that, too.  I'd think he'd understand it having watched the Bucks and NBA the last decade in this city.

That'll give more time to post here, anyway.  He can wax poetic about aircraft carriers, mid-range jump shots and players of yore.  His lack of understanding the modern game would fit in pretty well with half the posters on scoop

[avid1010]

You don't defend his trading practices. But I also don't see you demanding that Marquette completely disassociate themselves from Mr. Strong.

I'll tell you what. Call Lovell, identify yourself by name, and demand that MU kick Strong to the curb and cut all ties with him because YOU feel that his trading practices could embarrass the University. Then get back to us and tell us how that conversation worked out.

When did I demand Homer be removed?  I just simply stated he's said/posted some things I don't think he should have...and would agree he's done a lot for MU.  I couldn't tell you if he should be removed from his job. 

Feel the same way about Strong...I was a loser as a result of some of his trades...don't agree with it...fine with MU taking his $ and he's done a lot of good with his $.  Wouldn't judge him.

We live in the gray area...I'm not sure why we need to defend Homer's posts...also not sure that Homer needs to be fired.  A statement like..."Homer has done a lot of good for MU...but needs to have a better understanding of race before entering into that conversation."...seems like a fair assessment? 

[Lennys Tap]

Yup.  He's really gone downhill.  It's a new era for Marquette basketball and the fan deserves announcers that understand what the current staff is implementing philosophically.  Homer ain't that at all.  Honestly, I'm surprised at that, too.  I'd think he'd understand it having watched the Bucks and NBA the last decade in this city.

That'll give more time to post here, anyway.  He can wax poetic about aircraft carriers, mid-range jump shots and players of yore.  His lack of understanding the modern game would fit in pretty well with half the posters on scoop

LOL - "understanding the modern game" isn't akin to writing Mandarin or understanding quantum physics. It's mostly simple math. Midrange games have gone the way of the dinosaur because very few midrange shooters can shoot their shots at a 50+% better rate than 3 point shooters. So most shots are 3s or dunks, lay ups and point blank 2s. Players who can shoot 3s well AND slash for lay ups and dunks are prioritized. Guy who block up the lane, can't shoot 3s and rely on a midrange game aren't.

If you think Homer (or almost every scooper) doesn't get that you're substituting your bigotry for knowledge of "today's game".

[Uncle Rico]

LOL - "understanding the modern game" isn't akin to writing Mandarin or understanding quantum physics. It's mostly simple math. Midrange games have gone the way of the dinosaur because very few midrange shooters can shoot their shots at a 50+% better rate than 3 point shooters. So most shots are 3s or dunks, lay ups and point blank 2s. Players who can shoot 3s well AND slash for lay ups and dunks are prioritized. Guy who block up the lane, can't shoot 3s and rely on a midrange game aren't.

If you think Homer (or almost every scooper) doesn't get that you're substituting your bigotry for knowledge of "today's game".

He doesn't and you wisely must not read game threads or most posts here when discussion about improving the team comes up.

The game has passed Homer by.  Let him MC some remember when dinners and let the new era begin

[Lennys Tap]

He doesn't and you wisely must not read game threads or most posts here when discussion about improving the team comes up.

The game has passed Homer by.  Let him MC some remember when dinners and let the new era begin

I generally stay away from the game threads - people say a lot of hyperbolic and sometimes downright stupid stuff. I think it's mostly frustration from passionate fans, though, not misunderstanding of today's game. There are a couple of Scoopers who long for the gays of players with mid range games or "aircraft carriers". A couple. And many, many others who exaggerate their numbers and post incessantly about it. That's Scoop.

Regarding Homer, everyone has to retire sometime - maybe he's lost a step. But to suggest that basketball 2023 is beyond his comprehension is just silly.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

I generally stay away from the game threads - people say a lot of hyperbolic and sometimes downright stupid stuff. I think it's mostly frustration from passionate fans, though, not misunderstanding of today's game. There are a couple of Scoopers who long for the gays of players with mid range games or "aircraft carriers". A couple. And many, many others who exaggerate their numbers and post incessantly about it. That's Scoop.

Regarding Homer, everyone has to retire sometime - maybe he's lost a step. But to suggest that basketball 2023 is beyond his comprehension is just silly.

Typo in there, Lenny....

[lawdog77]

Typo in there, Lenny....

[Uncle Rico]

I generally stay away from the game threads - people say a lot of hyperbolic and sometimes downright stupid stuff. I think it's mostly frustration from passionate fans, though, not misunderstanding of today's game. There are a couple of Scoopers who long for the gays of players with mid range games or "aircraft carriers". A couple. And many, many others who exaggerate their numbers and post incessantly about it. That's Scoop.

Regarding Homer, everyone has to retire sometime - maybe he's lost a step. But to suggest that basketball 2023 is beyond his comprehension is just silly.

He started the Michigan State game by saying Marquette needed to establish the run. 

He can start a podcast for old timers that remember short shorts and peach baskets.  It'll be a hit

[tower912]

We agree about the game chats, Lenny.   Their main value for me is the comedy they provide after the fact after a win.   Some laugh out loud hot takes.

Nice typo.

[Uncle Rico]

We agree about the game chats, Lenny.   Their main value for me is the comedy they provide after the fact after a win.   Some laugh out loud hot takes.

Nice typo.

Some call the laugh out loud hot takes "The Willie Quotient"

[tower912]

There are a few who consistently provide comic relief.

[withoutbias]

Regarding Homer, everyone has to retire sometime - maybe he's lost a step. But to suggest that basketball 2023 is beyond his comprehension is just silly.

I think that's kind of the point.  It's not some crazy hard thing to understand, but it goes beyond Homer's comprehension.

[brewcity77]

I think that's kind of the point.  It's not some crazy hard thing to understand, but it goes beyond Homer's comprehension.

Listen to any of the times Nevada was on the coach's show with Homer. Smith may as well have been speaking a different language. Part of understanding the modern game from a broadcaster perspective is being able to at least understand and explain advanced stats, not act like the interview subject is speaking Sumerian.

[Lennys Tap]

We agree about the game chats, Lenny.   Their main value for me is the comedy they provide after the fact after a win.   Some laugh out loud hot takes.

Nice typo.

I will often go to the in game chats after a win for laughs.

And come to think of it, probably more than a couple of Scoopers long for the gays...not that there's anything wrong with it.

[Pakuni]

And come to think of it, probably more than a couple of Scoopers long for the gays...not that there's anything wrong with it.

But all of the gays? Seems like a disturbing lack of standards.

[Viper]

Homer is a BAD broadcaster. Very poor play-by-play chops. MU deserves better. You can keep Homer for special events or whatever all the boomer alums attend.

how often do you listen to Homer's game call? I'll admit, I turn down tv almost every game to listen to his call. Sometimes is difficult to sync tv/radio, but that's ok. I think his love for Marquette is awesome. When Markus Howard dropped +50 at Providence...Homer was incredible! When MU beat Kentucky in the ncaa's in '03, it sounded like Homer and George were in tears. Awesome!! Homers quirky imperfections are fun, imo.
Keep calling games Homer!!!

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

how often do you listen to Homer's game call?

I haven't listened to him in years because he's terrible.  I'd rather listen to Pete Gillen on crack.

[pbiflyer]

I haven't listened to him in years because he's terrible.  I'd rather listen to Pete Gillen on crack.

You would have to be on crack to listen to Pete Gillen. 

[Hards Alumni]

It's pretty obvious Shaka & Co are distancing themselves from Homer.

It's also pretty obvious Homer has been a big MU backer for a long time.

It's also pretty obvious Homer would tell his friends that he's ready for less radio time to save face.

But you all can keep debating these things as if some of them aren't true.  Just keep your own politics out of it.

Ha, yep, came to post this, but instead I wasted too much time reading this thread.  Should have just locked it right there Rock.

[real chili 83]

That's pretty obvious

[Marquette Fan in WI]

I think today was their last radio show.

[rocket surgeon]

Ha, yep, came to post this, but instead I wasted too much time reading this thread.  Should have just locked it right there Rock.

  you guys must be pretty tight

[Hards Alumni]

  you guys must be pretty tight

Tight?  You guys?

I don't understand.

edit: Oh, I figured it out.  You think Rocky and I know each other in any capacity other than this board.  Pretty funny, but not wholly unpredictable considering your proclivity for conspiracy theories.