2024-25 NFL Thread

[Jockey]

Bills coaching staff is why they will not win in the playoffs.

Only chance was to block the punt - and they don't go after him with 11 guys. Why was there even a guy deep and 2 guys blocking the gunners?

[Uncle Rico]

Only chance was to block the punt - and they don't go after him with 11 guys. Why was there even a guy deep and 2 guys blocking the gunners?

Looking out for the fake!

[JWags85]

You left out the ultimate loser - Jerrah.

See I disagree about Jerry compared to those guys cause he's technically a football guy and also team president, instead of just a rich owner meddling.

 And even moreso, he used to be an INCREDIBLE President and above average GM.  Which actually makes it more problematic cause it's not a know it all owner out of his depth, it's that owner who used to be a great football/organizational mind and is too arrogant and deluded to know he no longer has the goods.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

See I disagree about Jerry compared to those guys cause he's technically a football guy and also team president, instead of just a rich owner meddling.

 And even moreso, he used to be an INCREDIBLE President and above average GM.  Which actually makes it more problematic cause it's not a know it all owner out of his depth, it's that owner who used to be a great football/organizational mind and is too arrogant and deluded to know he no longer has the goods.

Not sure exactly how Jerry was an "incredible" President. I guess when he first bought the team and modernized it from the ossifying under Tex Schramm and Tom Landry, those were bold steps. And sure he drafted a bunch of guys when he fleeced the Vikings for Herschel. But he also has been the President and General Manager of a team that hasn't even reached a conference championship game in nearly thirty seasons.

[HutchwasClutch]

Not sure exactly how Jerry was an "incredible" President. I guess when he first bought the team and modernized it from the ossifying under Tex Schramm and Tom Landry, those were bold steps. And sure he drafted a bunch of guys when he fleeced the Vikings for Herschel. But he also has been the President and General Manager of a team that hasn't even reached a conference championship game in nearly thirty seasons.

Jimmy Johnson was heavily involved in all personnel decisions, including the Walker trade and all the drafts they won their Super Bowls from. Then he and Johnsons's egos could no longer coexist, Johnson left and they haven't been back to even an NFC Championship since (Switzer's Super Bowl XXX champs was all Johnson's roster still.).

[Herman Cain]

Only chance was to block the punt - and they don't go after him with 11 guys. Why was there even a guy deep and 2 guys blocking the gunners?

I agree with this analysis.

[Verypolitical Warrior]

See I disagree about Jerry compared to those guys cause he's technically a football guy and also team president, instead of just a rich owner meddling.

 And even moreso, he used to be an INCREDIBLE President and above average GM.  Which actually makes it more problematic cause it's not a know it all owner out of his depth, it's that owner who used to be a great football/organizational mind and is too arrogant and deluded to know he no longer has the goods.

Thing is, they have still accumulated homegrown talent at a very high rate. Dak, Ceedee, OL, and most of that defense. Their regular season success over previous years were not a mirage. But neither was their lack of postseason success...just a complete inability to make the moves at the margins that should have put them over the hump. Add in delaying signing their stars to top of market deals, and it's just a series of unforced errors.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Thing is, they have still accumulated homegrown talent at a very high rate. Dak, Ceedee, OL, and most of that defense. Their regular season success over previous years were not a mirage. But neither was their lack of postseason success...just a complete inability to make the moves at the margins that should have put them over the hump. Add in delaying signing their stars to top of market deals, and it's just a series of unforced errors.

Hanging onto coaches far too long...

[JWags85]

Not sure exactly how Jerry was an "incredible" President. I guess when he first bought the team and modernized it from the ossifying under Tex Schramm and Tom Landry, those were bold steps. And sure he drafted a bunch of guys when he fleeced the Vikings for Herschel. But he also has been the President and General Manager of a team that hasn't even reached a conference championship game in nearly thirty seasons.

He turned the Cowboys around in rapid fashion, 1-15 to back to back SB champs in under 5 years and then was a pivotal force in securing new NFL TV rights which turned the league into a massive TV cash cow as a result.  And he made a team from a non-marquee city into the most valuable sports franchise in the world.

He's a douche and been a terrible front office force the last 25 years, but from purchasing the team through the late 90s, he was a force of nature. 

I think he is/could still be a good business mind around the financial/business aspect of running and monetizing a franchise, but unfortunately his inability to step away from the day to day football matters ruins a lot of it.

[Herman Cain]

Mahomes is the best player in the NFL. Chiefs are in dynasty mode. Going to be very tough for any team to beat them.

[Jockey]

Making money as an owner and putting a winning team on the field are 2 completely different things.

Jerry is a success at one and a failure at the other.

[rocky_warrior]

Continuing my coach speak

Ditka hoped to escape his hometown's manufacturing jobs by attending college with a football scholarship. Initially planning to become a dentist

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

He turned the Cowboys around in rapid fashion, 1-15 to back to back SB champs in under 5 years and then was a pivotal force in securing new NFL TV rights which turned the league into a massive TV cash cow as a result.  And he made a team from a non-marquee city into the most valuable sports franchise in the world.

You are giving him way too much credit here. The Cowboys were one of the most popular sports franchises around when he bought the team and not that far removed from success.

Yes he turned them around by modernizing the place, and he deserves credit for that, but his team has largely been a disappointment for decades.

And the television stuff would have happened anyway.

[tower912]

The Vikings, Packers, and Lions are 28-3 against the rest of the NFL.  None have lost a game, other than to each other, since October.

[Uncle Rico]

The Vikings, Packers, and Lions are 28-3 against the rest of the NFL.  None have lost a game, other than to each other, since October.

Playing the AFC South and NFC West helps

[tower912]

Yes.  But they haven't stumbled.

[MU82]

From The Athletic:

Remember when everyone had a good laugh because Caleb Williams texted punter Tory Taylor after the draft to tell him that he wasn't going to be punting much? Oh, well. Taylor is punting 4.85 times per game, the second-most in the league this season and the 12th-most since 2015. The problem is he's not doing it that well. He's 19th in net punting (41.6 yards per kick).

[cheebs09]

From The Athletic:

Remember when everyone had a good laugh because Caleb Williams texted punter Tory Taylor after the draft to tell him that he wasn't going to be punting much? Oh, well. Taylor is punting 4.85 times per game, the second-most in the league this season and the 12th-most since 2015. The problem is he's not doing it that well. He's 19th in net punting (41.6 yards per kick).

To be fair, he probably didn't prepare to need that much endurance during the game.

[Spotcheck Billy]

Aaron Rodgers Shows Rookies How To Break Down Zapruder Film

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Makes ya think...

[Uncle Rico]

Makes ya think...

It is a sad state of affairs when people look upon Rodgers as some intellectual heavyweight and deep thinker. 

[WhiteTrash]

From The Athletic:

Remember when everyone had a good laugh because Caleb Williams texted punter Tory Taylor after the draft to tell him that he wasn't going to be punting much? Oh, well. Taylor is punting 4.85 times per game, the second-most in the league this season and the 12th-most since 2015. The problem is he's not doing it that well. He's 19th in net punting (41.6 yards per kick).

I think the Bears will have another top 5 pick. (stacking talent  )

[Verypolitical Warrior]

I think the Bears will have another top 5 pick. (stacking talent  )

A little high to draft a punter but I dig it

[WhiteTrash]

A little high to draft a punter but I dig it

With the Bears, anything is possible.

[tower912]

There is a report out there that Campbell was going to kick the field goal and Goff talked him into going for it.