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« Reply #4650 on: October 20, 2024, 11:13:05 AM »
Why? If you’re going to miss a two point conversion, you should miss it early.

Kicking the XP there makes it a one possession game. Putting your team in position where they need one score vs two is huge.
And with all their timeouts, you're not putting your team in a position where they have to score on their next drive and find yourself going for it on 4th and 22 deep in your own territory.
What's the benefit to missing it early?
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« Reply #4651 on: October 20, 2024, 11:17:22 AM »
Kicking the XP there makes it a one possession game. Putting your team in position where they need one score vs two is huge.
What's the benefit to missing it early?

You have more time to fit in the possessions. Regardless I don’t think it matters really. You have to make it so it really doesn’t matter if it’s on the first or second TD.
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« Reply #4652 on: October 20, 2024, 11:20:04 AM »
You have more time to fit in the possessions. Regardless I don’t think it matters really. You have to make it so it really doesn’t matter if it’s on the first or second TD.

But then you make any future possessions must-score, which had the Pats going for it on 4th and 22. Had they kicked the XP, they could have punted and used their time outs (plus the two-minute warning) to try to get another possession to tie.

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« Reply #4653 on: October 20, 2024, 11:21:41 AM »
But then you make any future possessions must-score, which had the Pats going for it on 4th and 22. Had they kicked the XP, they could have punted and used their time outs (plus the two-minute warning) to try to get another possession to tie.

Again you have to make the two point conversion either way.
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« Reply #4654 on: October 20, 2024, 11:26:59 AM »
Again you have to make the two point conversion either way.

I understand.
I just think you'd much rather be in a one-possession game with 8 minutes to play than a two-possession game. Keeps your team in the game and gives you options if your next drive doesn't go well.

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« Reply #4655 on: October 20, 2024, 01:05:25 PM »
I can't wait for Stroud to give Love advice on being an NFL QB after this game.

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« Reply #4656 on: October 20, 2024, 01:12:48 PM »
Not sure why coaches so often decide against using a first-half time-out to slow the opponent’s pace and momentum.

Example: Falcons are going super-quick, no-huddle, and are running the ball effectively vs Seahawks. It’s 3rd-and-3 from the 5 and Atlanta quickly gets set. Seattle’s D is running around cluelessly, they’re exhausted, and they never get set, and Robinson easily goes in for the TD.

Why not call TO there so your guys can catch their breath and get ready for an important play? Maybe you actually stop the Falcons and hold them to a FG.
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« Reply #4657 on: October 20, 2024, 01:30:24 PM »
Watson likely torn Achilles.

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« Reply #4658 on: October 20, 2024, 01:37:36 PM »
Watson likely torn Achilles.

Easy way out for everyone

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« Reply #4659 on: October 20, 2024, 01:42:20 PM »
Anthony Richardson is bad, he can’t be a starting QB in the NFL.

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« Reply #4660 on: October 20, 2024, 01:48:53 PM »
This just in: Bijan Robinson is good.
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« Reply #4661 on: October 20, 2024, 02:51:15 PM »
I know Kirk Cousins has been a statistically outstanding QB for years. But as I watch him today against Seattle, I see why, despite his obvious talent, he’s never won a damn thing in his career.

Nothing except huge contracts, that is.
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« Reply #4662 on: October 20, 2024, 03:13:24 PM »
I LOVE the Lions bringing an extra pass-rusher on the Hail Mary play - Darnold had no chance to even throw a pass.

Every team should do it every time (instead of only rushing 2 or 3 guys).

Great win for the Lions.
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« Reply #4663 on: October 20, 2024, 03:55:57 PM »
Cool
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« Reply #4664 on: October 20, 2024, 03:57:51 PM »
Concerns about Jayden Daniels physical frame have come to life.

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« Reply #4665 on: October 20, 2024, 04:00:48 PM »
If this deprives us of Daniels vs Williams I’m gonna be pissed

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« Reply #4666 on: October 20, 2024, 06:57:25 PM »
Ayuk will have enough Benjamin's to get through knee surgery and rehab.
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« Reply #4667 on: October 20, 2024, 07:08:08 PM »
Lack of pressure on Darnold= defensive end acquisition.

They tried it internally for a week.  Time to go shopping.
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« Reply #4668 on: October 20, 2024, 07:28:59 PM »
Lack of pressure on Darnold= defensive end acquisition.

They tried it internally for a week.  Time to go shopping.

Nice win, though. 
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

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« Reply #4669 on: October 20, 2024, 07:30:44 PM »
So Browns’ fans cheered when Watson went out injured, only to have his teammates trot out words like “model citizen” in his defense. Every time you think it can’t get worse…
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« Reply #4670 on: October 20, 2024, 08:01:34 PM »
Why does Cris Collinsworth talk about Russell Wilson like it’s 2018 or something?
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« Reply #4671 on: October 20, 2024, 08:20:34 PM »
Why does Cris Collinsworth talk about Russell Wilson like it’s 2018 or something?

Fluffing quarterbacks is kind of his thing.

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« Reply #4672 on: October 21, 2024, 10:05:03 AM »
Wilson wasn't particularly good last night, but you could still see the difference between what he brings (when healthy) to what Fields brings. Wilson sees the game better, and the trajectory of his passes gives his receivers chances to make plays or draw INT penalties.

Mike Tomlin isn't stoopid. He didn't bench Fields for Wilson just for funsies.
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« Reply #4673 on: October 21, 2024, 10:20:47 AM »
Agreed.  Its weird to say that the ceiling for 35 year old Russ is more of a question mark than 25 year old Fields, but for 2024 I think that's the case.  And its too bad - its not like Russ's most productive throws were anything special, he just put air underneath the ball and let Pickens go get them.  But the way that Fields darts everything, Tomlin felt he had to forbid those 50/50 balls when Fields was starting and it really lowered his upside.

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« Reply #4674 on: October 21, 2024, 10:29:47 AM »
Fields is who he is and Tomlin sees the limits as did the Bears as did the rest of the NFL as bore out in the market for him in the offseason. Sometimes theses NFL guys know what they are doing.

Fields is a great backup QB which has real value in the NFL. I think he will draw a nice paycheck for years and that is great for a guy who seems to be a great guy and teammate.