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The Sultan

Quote from: Pakuni on February 10, 2025, 06:11:28 PMWay more rookies are Caleb Williams than Jayden Daniels.
Brady will be fine. Expecting him to be Aikman, who's been doing this for 20+ years, or even Olsen, is unrealistic.

I hope he gets better. I don't think he will because I think his flaws are more an inherent part of his personality.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

JWags85

Quote from: Pakuni on February 10, 2025, 10:57:23 PMAnd yet ...


Thats just cause he was a massive winner.  It has nothing to do with the person or the personality.  Tiger was a prickly weirdo but he was amazing at golf so people were obsessed with him.  Messi has the personality of a dishrag and doesn't even speak English.  He would be a terrible soccer commentator as well.

Pakuni

Quote from: The Sultan on February 11, 2025, 07:45:55 AMI hope he gets better. I don't think he will because I think his flaws are more an inherent part of his personality.

You may be right. I think he'll almost certainly get better. Whether he ever becomes good or great, I have no idea.

MU82

Quote from: Pakuni on February 10, 2025, 10:57:23 PMAnd yet ...


That doesn't surprise me. I wonder if there's a similar graphic for Americans' least favorite pro athlete, and where Brady would rank.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

tower912

Jordan would be a worse commentator than he was a GM.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2025, 11:33:38 AMJordan would be a worse commentator than he was a GM.   

Undoubtedly true. He had the good sense not to try.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

WhiteTrash

Quote from: tower912 on February 11, 2025, 11:33:38 AMJordan would be a worse commentator than he was a GM.   
He was never a GM. You mean owner? I'd agree with that.

MU82

Quote from: WhiteTrash on February 11, 2025, 09:50:29 PMHe was never a GM. You mean owner? I'd agree with that.

He made all of the Hornets' important decisions, and many of their less-important ones, especially before he brought in Kupchak to be GM.

He didn't give himself the GM title, but he was the de facto GM.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

cheebs09

Quote from: MU82 on February 12, 2025, 10:54:25 AMHe made all of the Hornets' important decisions, and many of their less-important ones, especially before he brought in Kupchak to be GM.

He didn't give himself the GM title, but he was the de facto GM.

He was also PBO in Washington before his second comeback. He drafted Kwame Brown.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: cheebs09 on February 12, 2025, 11:01:56 AMHe was also PBO in Washington before his second comeback. He drafted Kwame Brown.

Yeah, well, at least he didn't force his teams to draft his kids
'Cursed is anyone who withholds justice from the foreigner, the fatherless or the widow.' Then all the people shall say, 'Amen!'

Hards Alumni

Brady got much better as the season went on.  He's fine.

cheebs09

Quote from: Hards Alumni on February 12, 2025, 01:48:22 PMBrady got much better as the season went on.  He's fine.

I don't think they are paying him that much money to be fine.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: cheebs09 on February 12, 2025, 01:54:10 PMI don't think they are paying him that much money to be fine.

I don't disagree, but how many people tune into a broadcast just to hear a specific guy yap about football?  I don't care who it is as long as they aren't awful.

If Fox overpaid for Brady (they certainly did) that's their problem.

The Sultan

Quote from: Hards Alumni on February 12, 2025, 02:13:24 PMI don't disagree, but how many people tune into a broadcast just to hear a specific guy yap about football?  I don't care who it is as long as they aren't awful.

If Fox overpaid for Brady (they certainly did) that's their problem.

But Brady's awful.
"I am one of those who think the best friend of a nation is he who most faithfully rebukes her for her sins—and he her worst enemy, who, under the specious and popular garb of patriotism, seeks to excuse, palliate, and defend them" - Frederick Douglass

Pakuni

Quote from: cheebs09 on February 12, 2025, 01:54:10 PMI don't think they are paying him that much money to be fine.

Every dollar Fox wastes on sports is a dollar it can't waste on propaganda.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: The Sultan on February 12, 2025, 02:14:30 PMBut Brady's awful.

Disagree.  He started really awful, and has graduated to merely average.


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