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Pudner: MU Offensive Reaching Historic Levels

Started by Not A Serious Person, January 25, 2023, 06:45:50 AM

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Not A Serious Person

Pudner: Chase Ross Dunk Puts Marquette on Verge of History with 5 Nationally Ranked Offensive Players
https://247sports.com/college/marquette/Article/John-Pudner-Chase-Ross-Dunk-Puts-Marquette-on-Verge-of-History-with-5-Nationally-Ranked-Offensive-Players-203560262/

tl:dr

Offensive rating: Play 40 percent of the minutes and have the ball at least 10 percent of that time. A rating above 100 means they score more than 100 points every 100 times they have the ball.

If the season ended today, Ross (119.4 offensive rating) would join Oso Ighodaro (127.2), Kam Jones (119.4), Tyler Kolek (119.2), and Olivier-Maxence Prosper (117.9) would give Marquette five nationally ranked offensive players.

Since 2002, only 39 of 1,607 teams had five nationally ranked players (This year's Purdue team also qualifies).

Of the previous 37 (before this year):

* 6 have won the National Championship (Baylor 2021, Villanova 2016 and 2018, Florida 2006 and 2007, and North Carolina 2005.)

* 26 have made the Sweet 16

* Only four lost in the first round (Alabama 2005 vs. Bruce Pearl's UWM team,  2-seed Missouri 2012 stunned by future NBA player Kyle O'Quinn and Norfolk State, 6-seed Creighton 2017, and Indiana in 2015 coached by Crean)

* Only one did not make the NCAA, but that team was NIT runner-up (2011 Colorado)


Western Progressives have one worldview, the correct one.

Ellenson Guerrero

Matches what I've thought for a while: Ross has earned more run.  Shaka is going to tighten up rotations down the stretch but I hope Ross continues to match or exceed Joplin's minutes.
"What we take for-granted, others pray for..." - Brent Williams 3/30/14

Newsdreams

Quote from: Ellenson Guerrero on January 25, 2023, 07:05:49 AM
Matches what I've thought for a while: Ross has earned more run.  Shaka is going to tighten up rotations down the stretch but I hope Ross continues to match or exceed Joplin's minutes.
No doubt in my mind he will, better D and is perfect to sub Mitchell or Kam with his handle.
Goal is National Championship

Its DJOver

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Quote from: nyg on May 13, 2024, 02:07:11 PM
I'll stick with my opinion on Gold.  He'll be in foul trouble within the first eight minutes.

PointWarrior

Curious as to what Chase Ross's Value Add rating was prior to the season?   


Shooter McGavin

Pretty incredible.  As our defensive rating in Kenpom continues to improve this team looks more and more like a final four contender.  Impressive. 

Not A Serious Person

It took about a 20-point leap after the Seton Hall Game.

Hopefully, it will take another big leap after Depaul tomorrow.
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tower912

Two against DePaul, two against Butler, another against Georgetown.
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tower912

If MU shows up at all, those should improve MU's defensive ranking.
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Newsdreams

Quote from: tower912 on January 27, 2023, 08:28:02 AM
If MU shows up at all, those should improve MU's defensive ranking.
If MU shows up at all? That is very COLE
Goal is National Championship

Shooter McGavin

DePaul made some really tough well defended shots (especially three pointers) yesterday and MU did not go up in the defensive metrics after facing them.  But having said that, it doesn't matter.  They are noticeably better on defense and I agree with Tower they will slowly creep up in those metrics in the next several games due to math (playing well).

If they don't we're going to be the second MU final four team with a defensive rating lower than 50 anyway.

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Now that I watch Marquette's offense, I have become hyper aware of what bad offense looks like.  And DPU, as well as Georgetown, take a LOT of bad shots. Long, closely guarded twos.  And sure guys can make those at times because they are talented. But they aren't going to live on those. Everything returns to equilibrium eventually.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

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Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on January 29, 2023, 08:39:53 AM
Now that I watch Marquette's offense, I have become hyper aware of what bad offense looks like.  And DPU, as well as Georgetown, take a LOT of bad shots. Long, closely guarded twos.  And sure guys can make those at times because they are talented. But they aren't going to live on those. Everything returns to equilibrium eventually.

Yesterday reminded me of the days when VU would just completely gut us on O.  Crisp passing - ball movement - passing up decent shots to get a better one.  The team has definitely bought in - even Jop seemed to look to pass more.