KenPom Now Has MU As The #1 Offense In The Nation

[Johnny B]

Just wild. Hang a banner

[The Thing]

Would anyone be willing to do a similar analysis for final 4 teams? Wondering if some poorer defensive teams have been able to win 4 games in the NCAAT?

[chicagowarrior]

Wow. Congrats!!!

[Uncle Rico]

11 of those teams have top 4 offenses.

Only 2 had top 4 defenses.

So you're telling me there's a chance??

If you look closer, all the national champs have had a top-20 defense and offense.

The exceptions are 2014 UConn and the last two national champs that were just outside the top-20 on defense.

You can make a final four with one elite side.  Winning it all is another thing.  Still, if you asked me what was more likely, a team with an elite offense and ok defense winning it all versus the other, give me the team with an elite offense

[CountryRoads]

Would anyone be willing to do a similar analysis for final 4 teams? Wondering if some poorer defensive teams have been able to win 4 games in the NCAAT?

These were the only two I found over 60 which is interesting:

2011: VCU (78)
2003: Marquette (109)

(Texas was 58 in 2003 and there were maybe 5 teams in the 40s)

[The Thing]

Interesting. I was wondering what MU’s defensive rating was in 2003.

[BLWarrior91]

Our offense in 2003 was #2 and defense was #119.

[Dr. Blackheart]

Our offense in 2003 was #2 and defense was #119.

How much of that 119 was the Kansas game?   

[tower912]

Hire Mike Deane to coach defense!



Can you picture Deane pulling Kolek, Oso,or Omax 90 seconds in for giving up a lay up?
Can you picture Shaka and Nevada's expressions?   Might be worth it strictly for entertainment.   Shaka trying to build them up, Deane mf'ing them after every basket.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

How much of that 119 was the Kansas game?   

At least 100.

[The Thing]

Maybe Final 4 is this team’s ceiling? Sign me up!

[romey]

Offense travels?

But the refs never call it

[NCMUFan]

National Champions in the Kenpom era…

Format: (offense rank, defense rank):

2022: Kansas (6, 17)
2021: Baylor (2, 22)
2019: Virginia (2, 5)
2018: Villanova (1, 11)
2017: North Carolina (9, 11)
2016: Villanova (3, 5)
2015: Duke (3, 11)
2014: Connecticut (39, 10)
2013: Louisville (7, 1)
2012: Kentucky (2, 7)
2011: Connecticut (19, 15)
2010: Duke (1, 5)
2009: North Carolina (1, 18)
2008: Kansas (2, 1)
2007: Florida (1, 13)
2006: Florida (3, 7)
2005: North Carolina (2, 5)
2004: Connecticut (9, 6)
2003: Syracuse (17, 14)
2002: Maryland (4, 7)

Considering the above, looks like there’s a good chance the champion comes from this group this year:

Houston (6, 2)
UCLA (12, 5)
Alabama (13, 7)
Purdue (3, 18)
Connecticut (16, 12)
Kansas (17, 14)

Where is Marquette ranked in Defense?

[NCMUFan]

How much of that 119 was the Kansas game?   

I thought Marquette just forfeited the Kansas game.
You are saying the team actually played?

[GoldenEagles03]

Where is Marquette ranked in Defense?

91 last I checked

[avid1010]

National Champions in the Kenpom era…

Format: (offense rank, defense rank):

2022: Kansas (6, 17)
2021: Baylor (2, 22)
2019: Virginia (2, 5)
2018: Villanova (1, 11)
2017: North Carolina (9, 11)
2016: Villanova (3, 5)
2015: Duke (3, 11)
2014: Connecticut (39, 10)
2013: Louisville (7, 1)
2012: Kentucky (2, 7)
2011: Connecticut (19, 15)
2010: Duke (1, 5)
2009: North Carolina (1, 18)
2008: Kansas (2, 1)
2007: Florida (1, 13)
2006: Florida (3, 7)
2005: North Carolina (2, 5)
2004: Connecticut (9, 6)
2003: Syracuse (17, 14)
2002: Maryland (4, 7)

Considering the above, looks like there’s a good chance the champion comes from this group this year:

Houston (6, 2)
UCLA (12, 5)
Alabama (13, 7)
Purdue (3, 18)
Connecticut (16, 12)
Kansas (17, 14)

Good thing our defense isn't as good as our offense...we'd never win a championship.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

And yet, they have ANOTHER game on CBS Sports Network

Whichever exec who made that decision this preseason should not have a job come next year.

[BLWarrior91]

How much of that 119 was the Kansas game?   

Ouch!

I’ve tried to block that game from my memory.

[lostpassword]

Maybe Final 4 is this team’s ceiling? Sign me up!

Co-sign. I will begrudgingly accept this outcome.

[DoctorV]

These were the only two I found over 60 which is interesting:

2011: VCU (78)
2003: Marquette (109)

(Texas was 58 in 2003 and there were maybe 5 teams in the 40s)

This is amazing.

Talk about just the most perfect bar room stat if this seasons Marquette were to shock us all.

One can only dream.

[Milkshakes]

These were the only two I found over 60 which is interesting:

2011: VCU (78)
2003: Marquette (109)

(Texas was 58 in 2003 and there were maybe 5 teams in the 40s)

Does no one else have the theme song from the Twilight Zone blaring in their head right now!?!?

[brewcity77]

Do you agree with Parrish that offense is the most important statistic and MU now #1 is a big deal?

Offense is more important than defense, but if you want to win it all you do need at least a competent defense. Typically, teams that enter the tournament top-25 in both have a real shot, and the lowest defensive rank on kenpom to enter the tournament and cut down nets was UNC at #39.

[MarquetteDano]

Offense is more important than defense, but if you want to win it all you do need at least a competent defense. Typically, teams that enter the tournament top-25 in both have a real shot, and the lowest defensive rank on kenpom to enter the tournament and cut down nets was UNC at #39.

Thanks for that Brew.  People keep on quoting champion's rank was at the end of year when they went on an incredible 6 game run.  It is more interesting to know what their rank was BEFORE the tourney.

Can I ask what was the lowest offensive rank for a champion prior to the tourney?

[jfp61]

Offense is more important than defense, but if you want to win it all you do need at least a competent defense. Typically, teams that enter the tournament top-25 in both have a real shot, and the lowest defensive rank on kenpom to enter the tournament and cut down nets was UNC at #39.

There is a mild solution to the defense at the end of the year, its called praying that Marquette can get away with playing Joplin 10 mpg come postseason time. Until then pray he learns how to play defense a tiny bit.

In conference play and with Oso on the court, Joplin's ON/ OFF is the most horrific individual defensive stats.

In conference play and with Oso ON the court and with Joplin ON the court, in 181 defensive possessions, Marquette has an adj. defensive rating of 110.7, allowing a 47.3 off. rebounding rate, a 43.6 FTR, and allowing opponents to shoot 41.0% from three while taking 39.1% of attempts from three.

In conference play and with Oso ON the court and with Joplin OFF the court, in 294 defensive possessions, Marquette has an adj. defensive rating of 87.1, allowing 30.8% an off. rebounding rate, a 21.5 FTR, and allowing opponents to shoot 22.2% from three while taking 32.3% of attempts from three.

Joplin can't play any defense, and we are one of the best offenses in the country with or without him.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

There is a mild solution to the defense at the end of the year, its called praying that Marquette can get away with playing Joplin 10 mpg come postseason time. Until then pray he learns how to play defense a tiny bit.

In conference play and with Oso on the court, Joplin's ON/ OFF is the most horrific individual defensive stats.

In conference play and with Oso ON the court and with Joplin ON the court, in 181 defensive possessions, Marquette has an adj. defensive rating of 110.7, allowing a 47.3 off. rebounding rate, a 43.6 FTR, and allowing opponents to shoot 41.0% from three while taking 39.1% of attempts from three.

In conference play and with Oso ON the court and with Joplin OFF the court, in 294 defensive possessions, Marquette has an adj. defensive rating of 87.1, allowing 30.8% an off. rebounding rate, a 21.5 FTR, and allowing opponents to shoot 22.2% from three while taking 32.3% of attempts from three.

Joplin can't play any defense, and we are one of the best offenses in the country with or without him.

This is why I have been hoping for more Ross in end game situations. I know he’s a freshman, but it seems the defensive upside is greater than any offensive downside.