2003 team

[1SE]

Legends. Although TC was his usual a$$ self - "why didn't anyone else recruit DWade?"

[MU82]

Crean's not my fave, but he was asked the question. He didn't ask himself.

[DoctorV]

I know dudes have bones to pick, but let it go.

Tom was huge for Marquette.

So was Wade, and Travis and everyone else from that 2003 team.

Crean was right, that team was a big reason for the move to the BE.

Get over in and move on to the new legend, Shaka

[1SE]

Crean's not my fave, but he was asked the question. He didn't ask himself.

Could have deflected with something else...

[1SE]

I know dudes have bones to pick, but let it go.

Tom was huge for Marquette.

So was Wade, and Travis and everyone else from that 2003 team.

Crean was right, that team was a big reason for the move to the BE.

Get over in and move on to the new legend, Shaka

Could've made that point without throwing shade on Wade

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Crean was fine

The dude genuinely cares about MU

[MU82]

So, your beef with Crean was that he was asked a question ... and instead of answering it, he should have talked about the weather.

[PGsHeroes32]

Legends. Although TC was his usual a$$ self - "why didn't anyone else recruit DWade?"

I just dont get the Crean hate.

Sure hes a bit of a goof and he left us but it was for Indiana, worth the shot. Since then hes always been complimentary of MU. Has never forgot his time here. Supports the program, supports TBT. GOt us a FF. Coached some all time MU greats.

And Im pretty sure he kinda misses it here.

Guy is a good rep for the program

[Autoengineer]

Could have deflected with something else...

. I thought it was a good question.  I recall that Wade kind of came out of nowhere to the casual fan.  There was very little talk about him as a recruiting target.  He was't a prized recruit that people were fighting for and excited about. 

[DoctorV]

The response came off a bit harsh, but you know what? Tom and Dwyane have that close of a relationship that I'm sure it's not the first time it's been said.

Crean was honest, and Wade appreciates Marquette for it.

Crean is just looking for more respect than 2003 FF, hence the move to the BE.
Odd that he still seeks that but I get it.

I appreciate TC, I appreciate Buzz.
I appreciate Wojo, and I appreciate


Let's give him his own spot
SHAKA SMART

[1SE]

IDK  - I always felt DW made TC more than vice versa. So to first make the weird comment about the jackets "he can afford it" and then to double down with "he was too dumb to get recruited anywhere else" just rubbed me wrong.

But the rest of the team showing up - legends - for a good but ultimately somewhat meaningless mid season game in the middle of January.  I love every member of that team - they bleed B&G without qualification- Tommy only does when it helps Tommy.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

A few boos at the Fiserv tonight for CTC, they were heavily drowned out by the cheers. Fanbase has mostly moved on but meatballs are going to meatball

[BLWarrior91]

I don't get the hate for TC.  The guy was at Marquette for nine years, stayed after going to the Final Four and built a group that started a run of eight straight NCAA bids.  He speaks very highly of MU and knows he should've stayed.  The program was in a much better place when he left than when he arrived.  He also left for Indiana, not Virginia Tech. 

[Dr. Blackheart]

A few boos at the Fiserv tonight for CTC, they were heavily drowned out by the cheers. Fanbase has mostly moved on but meatballs are going to meatball

A few laughs when his microphone didn't work at halftime. Was 4Ever the sound jockey?

[#UnleashSean]

Why wasn't wade recruited elsewhere? Seriously?

He was a kid from Chicago without the grades. This was in the very early 2000s where that was a major risk. And scouting wasn't nearly what it is now. Tons of teams saw where he came from, and what he currently was, and decided it wasn't worth the risk.

Don't be dumb. Wade was huge for marquette, but he came with a risk. A risk that marquette and clean decided was worth it. And they were correct.

[brewcity77]

Crean was great, he always is when he comes back. He brought us our only Final Four in damn near 50 years. It's idiotic to keep holding a grudge

[mujivitz06]

He just wasn't a high ranking prospect. Not even close, emerged late at Richards but that combined with the fact that he would be a partial qualifier, prop 48 held teams back.  But it was more so that he just wasn't rated very highly as a prospect. Easy to say now, "why didn't everyone want him".

If I remember correctly the only real offers he had were MU, Illinois State, and maybe DePaul if I remember correctly that finally offered him very late.

He was playing AAU for Illinois Warriors, and Darius Miles was on his team so he had plenty of people watching him, but the academic issues were always a question.

There were also plenty of people that questioned the competition since he didn't play in the public league against the Chicago powerhouses, or any of the big holiday tournaments.

[brewcity77]

Wade didn't have offers in part because he was Prop 48. There was more high major interest but they backed off when he had to sit. Crean just got the Marquette job, so it was worth the risk.

[Mr. Nielsen]

Tom Crean took the student section from 200 student season tickets sold to 3K plus each season.

[tower912]

Crean took MU to a final 4.

Last night he said great things about that team, tied it in to this year's team and how they play together, said other nice things about this team and coach Smart.   He was kind and gracious.    He clearly has made peace, moved on, and appreciates his time at MU and that team.

Perhaps it is time to. follow that example.

[cheebs09]

I just dont get the Crean hate.

Sure hes a bit of a goof and he left us but it was for Indiana, worth the shot. Since then hes always been complimentary of MU. Has never forgot his time here. Supports the program, supports TBT. GOt us a FF. Coached some all time MU greats.

And Im pretty sure he kinda misses it here.

Guy is a good rep for the program

100% agree.

[Skatastrophy]

Tom Crean took the student section from 200 student season tickets sold to 3K plus each season.

I met Crean his first year as I was walking out of the McCormick cafeteria. He and Oluoma Nnamaka were there handing out tickets to the game, behind the visitor bench lower bowl, for the exhibition game that weekend. He was telling every kid that would listen what a great time we were going to have watching MU Bball.

That man could sell ketchup at a hot dog stand in Chicago

I attended the game with sweet seats while we beat the Nike Allstars or whatever, lol. BUT it was the beginning of my love affair with MUBB

[Uncle Rico]

I met Crean his first year as I was walking out of the McCormick cafeteria. He and Oluoma Nnamaka were there handing out tickets to the game, behind the visitor bench lower bowl, for the exhibition game that weekend. He was telling every kid that would listen what a great time we were going to have watching MU Bball.

That man could sell ketchup at a hot dog stand in Chicago

I attended the game with sweet seats while we beat the Nike Allstars or whatever, lol. BUT it was the beginning of my love affair with MUBB

Anyone that dismissed the impact he had on the program is a fool

[Galway Eagle]

He was an ass as he left this is true

He did huge things for the program this is true

Hes been very complimentary of MU since IU this is true

Pros outweigh negatives, I've called many a person an ass or been called an ass on this board for something that may have been true in the moment but would still grab a beer with them. I view it the same with Crean, he was an ass in a moment, that's always true but doesn't negate everything else.

[Galway Eagle]

I met Crean his first year as I was walking out of the McCormick cafeteria. He and Oluoma Nnamaka were there handing out tickets to the game, behind the visitor bench lower bowl, for the exhibition game that weekend. He was telling every kid that would listen what a great time we were going to have watching MU Bball.

That man could sell ketchup at a hot dog stand in Chicago

I attended the game with sweet seats while we beat the Nike Allstars or whatever, lol. BUT it was the beginning of my love affair with MUBB

Like when Heinz tried to market ketchup as "Chicago sauce"