2003 team

[Goose]

I will never dismiss the impact Crean on had on the history of MU basketball. He provided a ton of excitement, team success, brought the greatest player in school history to the program and energized a fanbase. That being said, he left at the right time and I was happy when left. It was time for a new era.

[Galway Eagle]

I will never dismiss the impact Crean on had on the history of MU basketball. He provided a ton of excitement, team success, brought the greatest player in school history to the program and energized a fanbase. That being said, he left at the right time and I was happy when left. It was time for a new era.

+1 maybe if we make a run in 08 he stays but I doubt it and if he does maybe we're slightly better in 09 but almost certainly worse in 10, 11, 12 & 13

[Uncle Rico]

I will never dismiss the impact Crean on had on the history of MU basketball. He provided a ton of excitement, team success, brought the greatest player in school history to the program and energized a fanbase. That being said, he left at the right time and I was happy when left. It was time for a new era.

Program rejuvenator, not a coach to take the program to the next step?  Probably

[tower912]

Mmmmm, ketchup on a hot dog.   With some sweet relish, onions, cheese

[MU82]

Mmmmm, ketchup on a hot dog.   With some sweet relish, onions, cheese

So wait ... ketchup on hot dogs AND pineapple on pizza?

Jeesh, just when you thought you knew a guy!

[Markusquette]

He was asked questions and answered honestly and was very complimentary of Wade as to be expected. TC's a good guy and cares about MU.

[real chili 83]

Crean made an awful choice when he left by lying to the Administration.

He was also a screaming prick to many of the staff inside the Al.  That's in part why you hear boo's.

I appreciate his success on the court. IU did us a favor. Crean was not sustainable. His post MU record supports that.   

Do I think he is more humble now?  Perhaps.

That ship has sailed.

[mileskishnish72]

He was an ass as he left this is true

He did huge things for the program this is true

Hes been very complimentary of MU since IU this is true

Pros outweigh negatives, I've called many a person an ass or been called an ass on this board for something that may have been true in the moment but would still grab a beer with them. I view it the same with Crean, he was an ass in a moment, that's always true but doesn't negate everything else.

Good summation, GE.

[CountryRoads]

I hated Crean when he left for Indiana and tuned into most IU games actively rooting for him to lose. It was a satisfying day for me when they fired him.

Though at that point, I completed got over the hatred and can now fully appreciate what he did for MU and I've wished him success since then. I wanted him to succeed at Georgia and would give him a warm welcome back to MU any time.

[tower912]

So wait ... ketchup on hot dogs AND pineapple on pizza?

Jeesh, just when you thought you knew a guy!

[mix it up]

Could have deflected with something else...

Now why would he have deflected? Landing Wade and getting to the FF were his 2 biggest accomplishments in his career. (ok, some might argue getting hired by 4I was) Anyone with those achievements would talk about it when asked. ANYONE

[brewcity77]

Many people dislike that Crean is a salesman. Those types always come across as disingenuous. That said, after Deane we NEEDED a salesman. We needed someone to fill the student section, to bring back donors, and to get the right recruits. Crean did all that and thank god because the vast majority of us wouldn't be here if he hadn't.

Crean was a salesman, Buzz was a showman, and Wojo was a nice guy in over his head. Shaka is different than all of them. He's a ball coach and a relationship builder. But he's not a salesman.

We could really use a salesman right now. A salesman that can sell the brand that is Marquette.

[jfp61]

Many people dislike that Crean is a salesman. Those types always come across as disingenuous. That said, after Deane we NEEDED a salesman. We needed someone to fill the student section, to bring back donors, and to get the right recruits. Crean did all that and thank god because the vast majority of us wouldn't be here if he hadn't.

Crean was a salesman, Buzz was a showman, and Wojo was a nice guy in over his head. Shaka is different than all of them. He's a ball coach and a relationship builder. But he's not a salesman.

We could really use a salesman right now. A salesman that can sell the brand that is Marquette.

100%. Marketing is stepping it up as of recently with the success of the team. Marquette could use a touch more salesmanship to really keep things rolling, or just a sweet 16, ill take that too.

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Many people dislike that Crean is a salesman. Those types always come across as disingenuous. That said, after Deane we NEEDED a salesman. We needed someone to fill the student section, to bring back donors, and to get the right recruits. Crean did all that and thank god because the vast majority of us wouldn't be here if he hadn't.

Crean was a salesman, Buzz was a showman, and Wojo was a nice guy in over his head. Shaka is different than all of them. He's a ball coach and a relationship builder. But he's not a salesman.

We could really use a salesman right now. A salesman that can sell the brand that is Marquette.

You are saying that you would rather have a crean or buzz type over Shaka?

Is scooptakes still around?  JFC.

[MUfan12]

You are saying that you would rather have a crean or buzz type over Shaka?

brew can correct me if I'm wrong, but I read it as he'd like Crean at MU to sell while Shaka coaches ball.

[GoFastAndWin]

. I thought it was a good question.  I recall that Wade kind of came out of nowhere to the casual fan.  There was very little talk about him as a recruiting target.  He was't a prized recruit that people were fighting for and excited about.

While this is true, it should be noted that almost the minute Wade stepped on the OldGym practice floor, everyone knew he was going to be special, to the point that MU beat writer Lori Nickel wrote an article about him entitled "The One Who Didn't Get Away."

[brewcity77]

You are saying that you would rather have a crean or buzz type over Shaka?

Is scooptakes still around?  JFC.

Not at all. I want Shaka here as long as possible. The next 25 years would be great.

But someone who's a salesman working with Shaka? That would be ideal. Let Shaka run things, let the salesman hype the program.

[tower912]

A competent marketing department.   I just got my invitation to buy an ugly hat for National Marquette Day.      Sorry.   I want something like this, but with an MU logo and the colors on the underside of the brim.


https://www.williammurraygolf.com/products/players-tech-hat-white

There are so many cool styles and designs out there.    The gray uniforms weren't great on the court, but they opened up a whole palette of MU gear.   

The Wiscy jerseys from the Penn State game, if they do an entire product line, are going to make them a crap ton of money.   

[4everwarriors]

Crean's not very bright. Having said that, he has the gift of gab, which in college basketball translates to being able to recruit.
As for his coaching, he's a phony and a fraud. Getting #3 into MU is Crean's greatest accomplishment. DWade made Tom Crean generational wealth and as such he and Joanie should worship the ground he walks on.
In short, Crean sucks and are better off without that empty sack, hey?

[ZiggysFryBoy]

Not at all. I want Shaka here as long as possible. The next 25 years would be great.

But someone who's a salesman working with Shaka? That would be ideal. Let Shaka run things, let the salesman hype the program.

So like a hype man? 

[panda]

I'd go as far as to say you don't know ball if you don't like Tom Crean at this point.

[cheebs09]

So like a hype man?

Crean can take over the MC role and play Cotton Eye Joe at the most opportune moment.

[The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole]

Marquette doesn't need a salesman or showman. They need to win with consistency. If Shaka brings that, all will be good.

[panda]

Marquette doesn't need a salesman or showman. They need to win with consistency. If Shaka brings that, all will be good.

That's what the fine people in the MU athletics marketing office are for.

[Miss Katie’s]

A competent marketing department.   I just got my invitation to buy an ugly hat for National Marquette Day.      Sorry.   I want something like this, but with an MU logo and the colors on the underside of the brim.


https://www.williammurraygolf.com/products/players-tech-hat-white

There are so many cool styles and designs out there.    The gray uniforms weren't great on the court, but they opened up a whole palette of MU gear.   

The Wiscy jerseys from the Penn State game, if they do an entire product line, are going to make them a crap ton of money.   

I'd love that hat.  Great eye.