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DegenerateDish

Per Nightengale, Sox want a retractable roof ballpark, in either Arlington, current Soldier Field (if Bears leave), or near United Center.

There's zero chance taxpayers are going to fund both Bears and Sox stadiums.

Pakuni

Quote from: DegenerateDish on August 27, 2023, 10:11:26 AM
Per Nightengale, Sox want a retractable roof ballpark, in either Arlington, current Soldier Field (if Bears leave), or near United Center.

There's zero chance taxpayers are going to fund both Bears and Sox stadiums.

With the Arlington Park option - you're technically not asking the state/taxpayers to fund both stadiums. The Bears already have pledged not to seek public money for the stadium project itself, just the infrastructure it'll need and that infrastructure would serve both facilities. Yeah, that's totally splitting hairs, but it makes it a more palatable option than two separate projects.
And that funding would come primarily through a TIF or similar mechanism. If you're a taxpayer upset about TIFs, then you should be down at village hall protesting already, because there's a good bit you've already got several of them in your town.


DegenerateDish

Quote from: Pakuni on August 27, 2023, 12:15:33 PM
With the Arlington Park option - you're technically not asking the state/taxpayers to fund both stadiums. The Bears already have pledged not to seek public money for the stadium project itself, just the infrastructure it'll need and that infrastructure would serve both facilities. Yeah, that's totally splitting hairs, but it makes it a more palatable option than two separate projects.
And that funding would come primarily through a TIF or similar mechanism. If you're a taxpayer upset about TIFs, then you should be down at village hall protesting already, because there's a good bit you've already got several of them in your town.

I should have worded it differently. There's no way that separate projects are going to be fully funded by taxpayers. I don't disagree with you on AH, that option makes the most sense for all parties involved.

Dickthedribbler

Bob Uecker's deal with the Brewers is that he does the radio play-by-play for all 81 home games for the Brewers and no road games. If I'm home I always have the games on TV, but in the car or at work  the radio is on. I believe it was the Tuesday or Wednesday Twins game when Levering said "Bob isn't here but he'll be back this weekend."

I'm listening Sunday and he's not behind the mic. I haven't heard anything announced. He's 89 and over the years has had a host of serious medical problems. Has anyone heard anything or is this just an old man taking a few days off. I've got kind of an anxious feeling about this one.

ChuckyChip

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on August 27, 2023, 01:53:30 PM
Bob Uecker's deal with the Brewers is that he does the radio play-by-play for all 81 home games for the Brewers and no road games. If I'm home I always have the games on TV, but in the car or at work  the radio is on. I believe it was the Tuesday or Wednesday Twins game when Levering said "Bob isn't here but he'll be back this weekend."

I'm listening Sunday and he's not behind the mic. I haven't heard anything announced. He's 89 and over the years has had a host of serious medical problems. Has anyone heard anything or is this just an old man taking a few days off. I've got kind of an anxious feeling about this one.

He did the Twins game on Tuesday and I thought he sounded a bit weak or under the weather...just wrote it off as being rusty since the Brewers had been on the road for almost two weeks...but, yes, he has not been on the air since...so concerning.

Ardmore Mug

I know he wasn't there on Wed, too ungodly hot for anyone, even tho we gutted it out  8-) ! ! !

Dickthedribbler

Quote from: Ardmore Mug on August 27, 2023, 03:28:20 PM
I know he wasn't there on Wed, too ungodly hot for anyone, even tho we gutted it out  8-) ! ! !

Anyone who was there Wednesday afternoon ought to get 2 free tickets for a game in September ( or next spring). Double if you sat on the 3rd base side in the sun.

Sir Lawrence

Quote from: ChuckyChip on August 27, 2023, 02:05:55 PM
He did the Twins game on Tuesday and I thought he sounded a bit weak or under the weather...just wrote it off as being rusty since the Brewers had been on the road for almost two weeks...but, yes, he has not been on the air since...so concerning.

https://wisportsheroics.com/milwaukee-brewers-bob-uecker-news-notes-rumors/

Taking a few days off to recharge. 

He really wanders these days.  Sometimes I wonder if he's even watching the game.
Ludum habemus.

MuggsyB

Damn.....how good realistically is the Crew?

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on August 27, 2023, 01:53:30 PM
Bob Uecker's deal with the Brewers is that he does the radio play-by-play for all 81 home games for the Brewers and no road games. If I'm home I always have the games on TV, but in the car or at work  the radio is on. I believe it was the Tuesday or Wednesday Twins game when Levering said "Bob isn't here but he'll be back this weekend."

I'm listening Sunday and he's not behind the mic. I haven't heard anything announced. He's 89 and over the years has had a host of serious medical problems. Has anyone heard anything or is this just an old man taking a few days off. I've got kind of an anxious feeling about this one.

I love Uek and I hope he is well, but Brian Anderson is way better at this point.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

rocket surgeon

Quote from: Pakuni on August 27, 2023, 12:15:33 PM
With the Arlington Park option - you're technically not asking the state/taxpayers to fund both stadiums. The Bears already have pledged not to seek public money for the stadium project itself, just the infrastructure it'll need and that infrastructure would serve both facilities. Yeah, that's totally splitting hairs, but it makes it a more palatable option than two separate projects.
And that funding would come primarily through a TIF or similar mechanism. If you're a taxpayer upset about TIFs, then you should be down at village hall protesting already, because there's a good bit you've already got several of them in your town.

  so what the hey, might as well add another TIF to the stack...if one is good, ya'll should be ok with a bakers dozen or more, eyn'a?  TIF away

 
felz Houston ate uncle boozie's hands

jficke13

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on August 27, 2023, 04:55:05 PM
I love Uek and I hope he is well, but Brian Anderson is way better at this point.

He's been less effective as a game caller for several years now. He still brings a quality all his own to the booth, but he's only top tier on the mic for his zany stories and pure nostalgia now.

Still love him, always will. Doesn't mean reality doesn't eventually set in for us all one day.

jficke13

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 27, 2023, 04:51:04 PM
Damn.....how good realistically is the Crew?

Not as good as 8 in a row looks. But they're good, have good chemistry, and have the pitching and manager that means I can't imagine anyone wants em in October especially in a short series.

MuggsyB

Quote from: jficke13 on August 27, 2023, 06:20:59 PM
He's been less effective as a game caller for several years now. He still brings a quality all his own to the booth, but he's only top tier on the mic for his zany stories and pure nostalgia now.

Still love him, always will. Doesn't mean reality doesn't eventually set in for us all one day.

So vs Atlanta or LA they would have to essentially play lights out?

jficke13

In a 7 gamer? Those are two tough teams.

Doable, but obviously and deservedly underdogs.

5 gamers favor chaos, so a little better odds but still dogs tbh.

MuggsyB

Quote from: jficke13 on August 27, 2023, 06:38:19 PM
In a 7 gamer? Those are two tough teams.

Doable, but obviously and deservedly underdogs.

5 gamers favor chaos, so a little better odds but still dogs tbh.

Okay ty.  I don't really follow MLB.  But I can't stand LA or Atlanta.. 

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on August 27, 2023, 04:55:05 PM
I love Uek and I hope he is well, but Brian Anderson is way better at this point.

Don't think you can compare the two.  Uek is Uek. Classic radio guy.  BA is a good TV pxp guy, who's time in Milwaukee is short, as he's about to go national.  Levering has moved into the tv role seamlessly.  Josh Mauer needs work.

Dickthedribbler

Quote from: MuggsyB on August 27, 2023, 06:29:39 PM
So vs Atlanta or LA they would have to essentially play lights out?

Let's put it this way. In the last month the Brewers scored a grand total of 3 runs in losing a 3 game series to the Dodgers, 0-3. And they gave up a grand total of 29 runs in losing a 3 game series to the Braves, 0-3.

They'd have to play lights out in either series, yes.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: Pakuni on August 27, 2023, 12:15:33 PM
With the Arlington Park option - you're technically not asking the state/taxpayers to fund both stadiums. The Bears already have pledged not to seek public money for the stadium project itself, just the infrastructure it'll need and that infrastructure would serve both facilities. Yeah, that's totally splitting hairs, but it makes it a more palatable option than two separate projects.
And that funding would come primarily through a TIF or similar mechanism. If you're a taxpayer upset about TIFs, then you should be down at village hall protesting already, because there's a good bit you've already got several of them in your town.

With a Sports Book/Casino, it will be good for the residents especially if that property parcel is mixed use. This is one case where a TIF makes sense for taxpayers.

Jockey

Quote from: The Sultan of Semantics on August 27, 2023, 04:55:05 PM
I love Uek and I hope he is well, but Brian Anderson is way better at this point.

Not even close on actual play-by-play.

But Uek is still more entertaining than BA. Not by as much as a few years ago, though.

wadesworld

I'm old enough to remember people saying the problem was Craig Counsell and that the Brewers need Mark A to move on.

MuggsyB

Quote from: Dickthedribbler on August 27, 2023, 07:54:22 PM
Let's put it this way. In the last month the Brewers scored a grand total of 3 runs in losing a 3 game series to the Dodgers, 0-3. And they gave up a grand total of 29 runs in losing a 3 game series to the Braves, 0-3.

They'd have to play lights out in either series, yes.

Ouch.  Oh....well. 

MUfan12

The one glimmer of hope from their recent series against LA and ATL is they only got one start out of their top three... and lost that game 1-0.

Houser
Tehran
Rea
Houser
Miley
Burnes

Still a longshot, but align the rotation the right way and see what happens.

PGsHeroes32

Brewers are smokin hot.

If that offense shows a pulse in the games that matter they could clip LA who as good as they are dont have crazy good pitching for a 2 seed.
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Pakuni

I have so many questions.

@peggykusinski
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just now... the shooting at Guaranteed Rate Field during a #WhiteSox game was indeed an accidental discharge by one of the women "grazed" by the bullet.  She reportedly snuck the gun in past metal detectors hiding it in the folds of her belly fat.

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