Big East 2024 -25 Results

[GoldenEagles03]

Again, who cares? From the looks of things, its just you, per usual. I did like the goalpost shift to complain about last year though, one of your better ones.

Haha what is with you and goalposts?

This has been about Kam Jones the whole time. I care about Marquette players getting individual awards because it is cool for the program.

You have a knack for putting words into my mouth just like you did here bringing up team success when it was never even mentioned.

Team success isn't voted on. Individual awards are.

[Uncle Rico]

But what does it do for the BE cause as a whole?

Optics would be bad

[Its DJOver]

Haha what is with you and goalposts?

This has been about Kam Jones the whole time. I care about Marquette players getting individual awards because it is cool for the program.

You have a knack for putting words into my mouth just like you did here bringing up team success when it was never even mentioned.

Team success isn't voted on. Individual awards are.

Shifting goalposts is a sign of a weak argument.  You know you're wrong, so you try to twist it by bringing up another point.  You took exception to two (non-voters) talking about Dixon's chances for the 2024-25 POY award. Once it was pointed out how stupid that was, you started shifting to the 2023-24 all conference team.  That fact that you cannot have a discussion staying on point proves that all the points you make are incredibly weak. Were you freaking out about Kalk's chances of winning the award when he was averaging 49 ppg? If not, why do you care about Dixon now?

[Newsdreams]

You should be.  Hurts our NET

NET hates MU

[GoldenEagles03]

Shifting goalposts is a sign of a weak argument.  You know you're wrong, so you try to twist it by bringing up another point.  You took exception to two (non-voters) talking about Dixon's chances for the 2024-25 POY award. Once it was pointed out how stupid that was, you started shifting to the 2023-24 all conference team.  That fact that you cannot have a discussion staying on point proves that all the points you make are incredibly weak. Were you freaking out about Kalk's chances of winning the award when he was averaging 49 ppg? If not, why do you care about Dixon now?

There is nothing to be wrong about lol.

You are just so obsessed with needing to be right so your trying to create a reason that you could be.

I want Kam Jones to win BE POY so I thought I'd call out how ridiculous it is that multiple media members are sharing their opinion on someone else being the favorite. Good grief.

[Hards Alumni]

You should be.  Hurts our NET

But oddly, it improves our RIM

[Its DJOver]

There is nothing to be wrong about lol.

You are just so obsessed with needing to be right so your trying to create a reason that you could be.

I want Kam Jones to win BE POY so I thought I'd call out how ridiculous it is that multiple media members are sharing their opinion on someone else being the favorite. Good grief.

If there's nothing to be wrong about, why shift goalposts.

[GoldenEagles03]

If there's nothing to be wrong about, why shift goalposts.

There were no goalposts.

I sent a message stating that 2 media members said that Dixon was better than Kam Jones. That's all I said.

Then you attacked me right off the bat saying "why do you care about individual awards over team success."

I simply stated what I saw on Twitter and heard on TV and you...you were the one moving goalposts 😂

[Its DJOver]

There were no goalposts.

I sent a message stating that 2 media members said that Dixon was better than Kam Jones. That's all I said.

Then you attacked me right off the bat saying "why do you care about individual awards over team success."

I simply stated what I saw on Twitter and heard on TV and you...you were the one moving goalposts 😂

"Attacked you"? Where did I attack you? I expressed the same opinion as everyone else has since you brought up Dixon, that 2 people on twitter is a big nothing burger. You were the one that shifted goalposts from 2024-25 POY race to 2023-24 all conference team.

[THRILLHO]

"Attacked you"? Where did I attack you? I expressed the same opinion as everyone else has since you brought up Dixon, that 2 people on twitter is a big nothing burger. You were the one that shifted goalposts from 2024-25 POY race to 2023-24 all conference team.

Fwiw I don't understand what you're talking about either

[Its DJOver]

Fwiw I don't understand what you're talking about either

Once it was pointed out that 2 people on twitter having an opinion different than GE03 on January 2nd was a pretty stupid thing to be brought up, he shifted goalposts to Kam was robbed of all conference last year. Probably true, but irreverent to this years POY race. He does this often, I call him out for it. Apparently that's attacking him. I just hope that the mods aren't as sensitive as him.

[THRILLHO]

Once it was pointed out that 2 people on twitter having an opinion different than GE03 on January 2nd was a pretty stupid thing to be brought up, he shifted goalposts to Kam was robbed of all conference last year. Probably true, but irreverent to this years POY race. He does this often, I call him out for it. Apparently that's attacking him. I just hope that the mods aren't as sensitive as him.

I think you're wrong about what's happening in this conversation

[tower912]

Probably true, but irreverent to this years POY race.

Irreverent is scoops middle name.

[Herman Cain]

I do care about it. Just not more than team success though. How are you this incapable of comprehension? Lmao, it is honestly impressive.

Kam Jones is a player for Marquette. He was robbed of All Conference last season, he shouldn't be robbed of POY this year too. I would like to see Marquette players rewarded for their success and Kam joining Crowder, Howard, and Kolek would be both cool and good for the program.

If Kam wins Big East Player of Year it will definitely be Excellent for MU .
 
The issue as I see it is that Kam is in an unfair fight .

Dixon is a fifth year senior , leading the nation in scoring and shooting 50 percent from 3 and his team has a winning recors so far.

Kam is actually playing two positions. He is MU's point guard and also MU's scoring guard. Kams assist total and assist to turnover ratio , while very impressive, would be significantly higher if his teammates made more of the wide open looks he is getting them.

In order for Kam to beat Dixon, MU will need to win Big East regular season championship.That could require winning 17 Conference games. The award is voted on by Coaches. So Kam has to get 6 other than Shaka who can't vote for him. 

MU Team Interest and Kam Individual Interest are in complete alignment

[DoctorV]

If it's close Kam will win it imo.

Big East aren't dummies and they will realize what Kam means to Marquettes success this season, and understand that MU is the better team.

If Marquette falls off, and Kam personally falls off statistically then Dixon could win, assuming things continue to trend well for him

[Newsdreams]

If Kam wins Big East Player of Year it will definitely be Excellent for MU .
 
The issue as I see it is that Kam is in an unfair fight .

Dixon is a fifth year senior , leading the nation in scoring and shooting 50 percent from 3 and his team has a winning recors so far.

Kam is actually playing two positions. He is MU's point guard and also MU's scoring guard. Kams assist total and assist to turnover ratio , while very impressive, would be significantly higher if his teammates made more of the wide open looks he is getting them.

In order for Kam to beat Dixon, MU will need to win Big East regular season championship.That could require winning 17 Conference games. The award is voted on by Coaches. So Kam has to get 6 other than Shaka who can't vote for him. 

MU Team Interest and Kam Individual Interest are in complete alignment

AI is doing better lately

[Shaka Shart]

If Kam wins Big East Player of Year it will definitely be Excellent for MU .

Source?

[Spaniel with a Short Tail]

[wiscwarrior]

Nah. Seems way more one sided to me.

[Herman Cain]

Some Excellent MU analysis and preview from Creighton Fan board

https://whiteandbluereview.com/pregame-primer-creighton-plays-rare-friday-night-big-east-game-tonight-at-8-marquette/

[Newsdreams]

Some MU analysis and preview from Creighton Fan board

https://whiteandbluereview.com/pregame-primer-creighton-plays-rare-friday-night-big-east-game-tonight-at-8-marquette/

Not excellent, not even looking.

[Herman Cain]

Not excellent, not even looking.

Correction Noted.

[tower912]

It was excellent.  The writer thinks far more highly of MU than many scoopers.

[Jables1604]

Does he have any insight on when Sean Jones might be ready?

[barfolomew]

It was excellent.  The writer thinks far more highly of MU than many scoopers.

Agreed, but I did chuckle at this statistical cherry:

"Kalkbrenner is the nation's only Division I player (men's or women's) in the last 15 seasons who has had any three-game stretch with at least one made three-pointer, 10 blocks and no fouls."