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The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: thomaskyle on February 02, 2022, 10:09:12 AM
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/japans-kowa-says-ivermectin-effective-against-omicron-phase-iii-trial-2022-01-31/


"Japanese trading and pharmaceuticals company Kowa Co Ltd (7807.T) on Monday said that anti-parasite drug ivermectin showed an "antiviral effect" against Omicron and other coronavirus variants in joint non-clinical research.

...

Many potential COVID-19 treatments that showed promise in test tubes, including the antimalarial hydroxychloroquine promoted by former U.S. President Donald Trump, ultimately failed to show benefit for COVID-19 patients once studied in clinical trials."



Let's keep sciencing, but there is a significant difference here.
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.

rocky_warrior

lol

Like bleach and sunlight, in high enough doses it can kill Covid.  But you shouldn't take it to treat or avoid covid.  That's what vaccines, monoclonal antibodies, and covid antiviral pills are for.


jesmu84

Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 02, 2022, 10:50:45 AM
lol

Like bleach and sunlight, in high enough doses it can kill Covid.  But you shouldn't take it to treat or avoid covid.  That's what vaccines, monoclonal antibodies, and covid antiviral pills are for.

Do we know the ingredients or long term effects of monoclonal antibodies or covid-specific antivirals?

tower912

Yeah, Reuters already published a retraction and clarification.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

pbiflyer

When I hear people saying they are going to take Ivermectin to treat Covid.


rocky_warrior

Quote from: jesmu84 on February 02, 2022, 11:03:01 AM
Do we know the ingredients or long term effects of monoclonal antibodies or covid-specific antivirals?

They are certainly not proven to take care of parasites! 

tower912

I find it amusing that the latest batcrap alternative treatment for COVID is called wormwood.   The Screwtape Letters tie in is so natural.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: tower912 on February 02, 2022, 04:51:48 PM
I find it amusing that the latest batcrap alternative treatment for COVID is called wormwood.   The Screwtape Letters tie in is so natural.

Two things Wormwood is in: Besks & Absinthe. I'm envisioning a bunch of people rushing to Chicago dive bars for their shots of Malort since they can't afford Absinthe.
Maigh Eo for Sam

rocky_warrior

These people must also believe in shock therapy for mental illness.  It's like they yearn for medieval medicine.

Look at that smile!

ZiggysFryBoy

Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 02, 2022, 04:55:52 PM
Two things Wormwood is in: Besks & Absinthe. I'm envisioning a bunch of people rushing to Chicago dive bars for their shots of Malort since they can't afford Absinthe.

I'd rather have full, unvaxxed covid than drink Malort.

JWags85

Quote from: ZiggysFryBoy on February 02, 2022, 07:09:29 PM
I'd rather have full, unvaxxed covid than drink Malort.

It's actually the drink of choice for those who have COVID induced loss of taste

Billy Hoyle

is this any less reputable than "experts" declaring COVID didn't spread during protests and riots (only BLM protests/riots, that is. COVID could distinguish between those and other mass gatherings/super spreader events like Sturgis and Lollapalooza).
"Kevin thinks 'mother' is half a word." - Mike Deane

The Hippie Satan of Hyperbole

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 07, 2022, 02:46:36 PM
is this any less reputable than "experts" declaring COVID didn't spread during protests and riots (only BLM protests/riots, that is. COVID could distinguish between those and other mass gatherings/super spreader events like Sturgis and Lollapalooza).


Who are the experts that claimed this???
Matthew 25:40: Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.


TSmith34, Inc.

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 07, 2022, 02:46:36 PM
is this any less reputable than "experts" declaring COVID didn't spread during protests and riots (only BLM protests/riots, that is. COVID could distinguish between those and other mass gatherings/super spreader events like Sturgis and Lollapalooza).



Good try, Junior.
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

JWags85

Quote from: Fluffy Blue Monster on February 07, 2022, 02:48:47 PM

Who are the experts that claimed this???

I remember people saying that in...summer 2020.  But no idea where that reappeared from.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: Billy Hoyle on February 07, 2022, 02:46:36 PM
is this any less reputable than "experts" declaring COVID didn't spread during protests and riots (only BLM protests/riots, that is. COVID could distinguish between those and other mass gatherings/super spreader events like Sturgis and Lollapalooza).

LMFAO one of your examples you literally had to be vaccinated for... what does the vaccine do? Significantly increases the likelihood of being asymptomatic. who was then going to get tested if they were symptomatic?

only Ace Venture is better at talking out of his a$$ than this.
Maigh Eo for Sam

Lennys Tap

Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 02, 2022, 05:17:22 PM
These people must also believe in shock therapy for mental illness.  It's like they yearn for medieval medicine.


Actually, "shock therapy" (electroconvulsive therapy, technically) is still used and is an effective treatment for some mental illnesses. At least according to the Mayo Clinic.

JWags85

Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 09, 2022, 09:33:03 AM
Actually, "shock therapy" (electroconvulsive therapy, technically) is still used and is an effective treatment for some mental illnesses. At least according to the Mayo Clinic.

Primarily homosexuality

rocky_warrior

Quote from: Lennys Tap on February 09, 2022, 09:33:03 AM
Actually, "shock therapy" (electroconvulsive therapy, technically) is still used and is an effective treatment for some mental illnesses. At least according to the Mayo Clinic.

Huh, today I learned.  Not gonna look it up, I trust you Lenny.  Plus I did watch the movie Jolt, and clearly it was being used for anger management in the movie.

Sir Lawrence

Quote from: rocky_warrior on February 09, 2022, 10:56:07 AM
Huh, today I learned.  Not gonna look it up, I trust you Lenny.  Plus I did watch the movie Jolt, and clearly it was being used for anger management in the movie.

My father, may he RIP, suffered from profound depression and received ECT in the late 90's.  It was effective for awhile, if I recall correctly. 
Ludum habemus.

MU Fan in Connecticut

I recall an article from Smithsonian or National Geographic like 10 years ago that it is still useful in certain conditions, but it's not the same EST from our imagination.  (Along those lines.)

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MU Fan in Connecticut on February 09, 2022, 11:52:55 AM
I recall an article from Smithsonian or National Geographic like 10 years ago that it is still useful in certain conditions, but it's not the same EST from our imagination.  (Along those lines.)

Safe to say that most treatments, procedures, operations, etc., aren't the same as they were 50 years ago.

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