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Star Wars Universe Thread

Started by brewcity77, September 26, 2021, 06:04:26 PM

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brewcity77

Anyone watching Star Wars: Visions? I watched the first three episodes. The first one, Ronin, was fantastic. I love the Kurosawa feel which really harkens to how Kurosawa inspired Lucas in the first place. I could totally see a full show based on that character or planet.

Also...I saw a number of threads for specific movies or shows, but it seemed a catch-all thread makes more sense.
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jesmu84

Quote from: brewcity77 on September 26, 2021, 06:04:26 PM
Anyone watching Star Wars: Visions? I watched the first three episodes. The first one, Ronin, was fantastic. I love the Kurosawa feel which really harkens to how Kurosawa inspired Lucas in the first place. I could totally see a full show based on that character or planet.

Also...I saw a number of threads for specific movies or shows, but it seemed a catch-all thread makes more sense.

Bingeing right now. I'll get back to you.

Galway Eagle

The OG Christmas special is by far the best movie.
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brewcity77

I'm five episodes into Visions and my two favorites are E1-Ronin and E5-The Ninth Jedi. I could see either spawning more long lasting series.

I think it's also interesting how much Kyber Crystals are focused on here. Star Wars nerds know what they are, but they feel like an afterthought in the movies.
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Juan Anderson's Mixtape

I've only watched episode 1, but Ronin was quite good. A very strong start for Star Wars: Visions.

It was very fresh to have something not tied to the Skywalker timeline. I have been wanting content that explores other timelines in the Star Wars universe and Ronin fit the bill.

I would love to see movies earlier in the timeline.  Also would love to see them explore other force users that are neither Jedi nor Sith.

There is so much potential to create totally new stories, and Ronin demonstrates how that can be done quite well.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Thru episode 4. I absolutely love the villain and the hero character in The Village Bride. Nailed the look of both characters and set up quite a bit of intrigue for who they are.

I'd love to see a show about their backstories, climaxing in a TVB remake.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

There's so much going on in The Ninth Jedi that I need to rewatch it to catch everything.

The director admits he wants to make a feature film building off of the episode and I'd definitely watch, but I think the concept would be best served in a series.

I really like the creative direction of this episode.  It shows how the Star Wars franchise can be so much more than the Skywalker/Palpatine saga.

Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Thru episode 7 of Visions. The Elder is another strong episode.  Probably my 2nd favorite after The Duel, with The Ninth Jedi third, and The Village Bride fourth.

I'd love to see some miniseries and full series spin offs.  I don't think movies are the right medium and would prefer a collection of shorter stories.  But given all of the other SW content being made, I doubt any of these get fleshed out.

But Visions has offered some wonderful, fresh ideas for the SW universe and I hope Disney reflects on them.

brewcity77

I think Visions really shows the import of moving away from the Skywalker saga. You effectively have infinite time and an infinite universe, use it and let creative types get creative.
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Juan Anderson's Mixtape

Quote from: brewcity77 on October 20, 2021, 07:35:40 PM
I think Visions really shows the import of moving away from the Skywalker saga. You effectively have infinite time and an infinite universe, use it and let creative types get creative.

I totally agree.  I also think the trilogy model needs to be abandoned for awhile.  Do some stand a lone movies that show a snapshot in time. Set a movie in the High Republic era. Do a Sith movie that shows how The Rule of Two came to be.  And if they do a trilogy, it has to be a cohesive story, not just a collection of three movies grouped together on the timeline.

Sometimes a story is best told via series, miniseries, or short. If The Ninth Jedi gets another project, I like it better as a series rather than a movie.  But most of the shorts can just stand on their own.

brewcity77

Quote from: Juan Anderson's Mixtape on October 24, 2021, 09:42:10 AM
I totally agree.  I also think the trilogy model needs to be abandoned for awhile.  Do some stand a lone movies that show a snapshot in time. Set a movie in the High Republic era. Do a Sith movie that shows how The Rule of Two came to be.  And if they do a trilogy, it has to be a cohesive story, not just a collection of three movies grouped together on the timeline.

Sometimes a story is best told via series, miniseries, or short. If The Ninth Jedi gets another project, I like it better as a series rather than a movie.  But most of the shorts can just stand on their own.

The biggest problem for me with the last "trilogy" is the three different creative teams. It was so clear they didn't share the same goals for the story and the third one felt like they were spending half of it trying to "fix" what they didn't like from the second. I don't have a problem with trilogies, but if you're going to go that route, hand it to one creator and let them run it start to finish. I'd love to see what a James Gunn or Peter Jackson could do with it, I can't wait for Taika Waititi's take, but bouncing back and forth was a complete failure.
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tower912

Peter Jackson?   Pass.   Not after what he did to The Hobbit.   
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lawdog77

Quote from: Uncle Rico on December 30, 2021, 07:33:44 AM
Boba bump
Not to spoil anything, but that was Jimmy Kimmel's nephew as the Tusken kid.

For us who were teenagers in the 80's, good casting choice for Garsa Fwip.

Oh, and thank goodness for subtitles. I would have had no idea who was who.

tower912

Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

MU82

My son, who's more of a Star Wars nut than I am, said it was real good. I plan to watch it over the weekend.

lawdog: Great idea to use subtitles. I'm gonna do it!
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tower912

Attacking Boba Fett in his own lair.

Wookie mistake.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

brewcity77

Holy hell episode 6 of TBOBF was absolute  Star Wars nerd porn. I'm in shock. So good.
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Galway Eagle

Duh fuq is with this spice thing? They adding Dune to the Star Wars Universe?

Anyways I agree this episode is a fanboys dream.
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jesmu84

Haven't watched ep 6 yet.

But, re: 5....I find it interesting that the best episode of this show so far doesn't include Boba.

Overall, a real let down of a series.

Uncle Rico

Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 02, 2022, 01:01:20 PM
Duh fuq is with this spice thing? They adding Dune to the Star Wars Universe?

Anyways I agree this episode is a fanboys dream.

The spice thing has been alluded to in various Star Wars properties outside the movies.  You have to be deep in the weeds to know it.  Han Solo used to be a spice runner
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DegenerateDish

Just binged all 6 episodes. This is...not a great series by any stretch. If you're a huge Star Wars nerd, one will love this series. From a plot and story telling perspective, it's brutal. Episode 6 just falls off the rails completely.

It's hard to take probably the singular "coolest" character from the original trilogy and not just turn him into an afterthought, but a weak afterthought. But that's where we're at.

MU82

Quote from: DegenerateDish on February 06, 2022, 10:51:42 PM
Episode 6 just falls off the rails completely.

Thanks for saying this. I was worried that I was the only one who thought it.

I actually haven't hated Boba Fett; haven't thought it was great, but haven't hated it. One thing I actually liked was that the first 4 episodes weren't too Star Warsy. And I really like the Mandolorian so I mostly liked Episode 5.

But Episode 6 was just bad. Every scene with CGI Luke felt like somebody was trying to do a cheap Star Wars imitation, and I actually was bored most of the episode. I did like the shootout with the sheriff from Deadwood and Justified, though.
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Uncle Rico

Quote from: DegenerateDish on February 06, 2022, 10:51:42 PM
Just binged all 6 episodes. This is...not a great series by any stretch. If you're a huge Star Wars nerd, one will love this series. From a plot and story telling perspective, it's brutal. Episode 6 just falls off the rails completely.

It's hard to take probably the singular "coolest" character from the original trilogy and not just turn him into an afterthought, but a weak afterthought. But that's where we're at.

I think this is a bridge series and a lot of the series moving forward will be interconnected in a Marvel Universe way.

The Mandalorian season 3 and Ashoka certainly seem they will proceeed in a loosely connected way. 

I also think they worked Grogu and Luke training together into this series as part of that.  A question after Mando season 2 was, was Grogu at the temple during Ben Solo's rampage?  I think the decision to be a mandalorian foundling has been made and at the end of this saga, that character is wielding the dark saber
Ramsey head thoroughly up his ass.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: DegenerateDish on February 06, 2022, 10:51:42 PM
Just binged all 6 episodes. This is...not a great series by any stretch. If you're a huge Star Wars nerd, one will love this series. From a plot and story telling perspective, it's brutal. Episode 6 just falls off the rails completely.

It's hard to take probably the singular "coolest" character from the original trilogy and not just turn him into an afterthought, but a weak afterthought. But that's where we're at.

Quote from: MU82 on February 06, 2022, 11:09:51 PM
Thanks for saying this. I was worried that I was the only one who thought it.

I actually haven't hated Boba Fett; haven't thought it was great, but haven't hated it. One thing I actually liked was that the first 4 episodes weren't too Star Warsy. And I really like the Mandolorian so I mostly liked Episode 5.

But Episode 6 was just bad. Every scene with CGI Luke felt like somebody was trying to do a cheap Star Wars imitation, and I actually was bored most of the episode. I did like the shootout with the sheriff from Deadwood and Justified, though.


Are you guys familiar with the Clone Wars series?

Some of the Ahsoka/Luke interaction is fed directly from Ahsoka/Anakin that was explored in CW. And also the Bane character is quite familiar to Clone Wars watchers. Deep cuts for nerds.