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willie warrior

Quote from: BLM on January 31, 2021, 10:02:43 PM
I honestly cannot remember the last time I watched a post game press conference other than when it's been posted on Scoop. And even those I almost always just skip over. Are people really thinking they're going to get some great in depth knowledge out of them?

Bill Bellichick is boring as hell. I'd be completely fine having Bill coach my favorite football team.

Mark Few is a pretty boring guy. If he wants to come to Marquette? Heck yeah, that'd be awesome.

Nick Saban is very boring. If I liked college football he'd be my first choice for coaching whatever team I liked.

Greg Popovich doesn't even pretend to be interested in answering questions from reporters. But I'd take him as a basketball coach.

But apparently people are worked up because Wojo is boring. Or because the MU administration is silencing the media? Lol.
Or maybe it is because Wojo-Dukiet is not getting it done, while those other people you mention are.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind.

wadesworld

Quote from: willie warrior on February 01, 2021, 05:19:43 AM
Or maybe it is because Wojo-Dukiet is not getting it done, while those other people you mention are.

Of all the people to understand the point, willie is the one who gets it? Wow, Scoop really is in a rough spot right now.

connie

Quote from: BLM on January 31, 2021, 08:34:09 PM
I love the obsession with press conferences people have gotten here.
Every team I follow promotes their coach's post game press conferences.  They make them available on websites, send out notices that they are available, put them in news feeds, etc.  Teams want fans to watch them, and they want people to comment on them. I have no idea why you are surprised that an extremely involved fan base would discuss post game press conferences, especially after successive  loses to habitual bottom tier teams in the league.  It's almost as if the not so subtle derision--"obsession" (Oh NO--Fans that are obsessed with their team!  How shocking!") is meant to denigrate an entire group of the fanbase that doesn't agree with you.
"Let's be careful out there."  Phil Esterhaus

wadesworld

Quote from: connie on February 01, 2021, 06:42:02 AM
Every team I follow promotes their coach's post game press conferences.  They make them available on websites, send out notices that they are available, put them in news feeds, etc.  Teams want fans to watch them, and they want people to comment on them. I have no idea why you are surprised that an extremely involved fan base would discuss post game press conferences, especially after successive  loses to habitual bottom tier teams in the league.  It's almost as if the not so subtle derision--"obsession" (Oh NO--Fans that are obsessed with their team!  How shocking!") is meant to denigrate an entire group of the fanbase that doesn't agree with you.

Whatever you need to be enraged.

Wojo's press conferences are no different than 90% of all sports coaches'.  Except, apparently, that his bosses control what questions can be asked.    :o

Silent Verbal

While I generally agree that most press conferences are strictly boilerplate, I do find it odd that Wojo is never asked about his thoughts on the team's postseason prospects, and never seems to have to answer any questions about his team's lack of postseason success during his tenure.  Those are perfectly valid questions/points for reporters to bring up.

MUfan12

The only thing that bugged me from that presser was him saying he wished he had another timeout.

If only he hadn't wasted his last one for no goddamn reason.

5DollarPitcher

I don't think it's a zany conspiracy at all to believe that reporters are, at the very least, strongly encouraged to stay positive and stick to the script.

Marquette disables YouTube comments on Wojo's postgame pressers (a new phenomenon, actually) and hides / reports a majority of negative commentary on their Twitter page after losses.

The University is soft and extremely protective of Wojo. Whether it's actually Lovell and Scholl pulling the strings is hard to say, but they are responsible for the tone at the top. They've chosen to have Marquette basketball live in a make-believe world.

wadesworld

Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on February 01, 2021, 10:43:30 AM
I don't think it's a zany conspiracy at all to believe that reporters are, at the very least, strongly encouraged to stay positive and stick to the script.

Marquette disables YouTube comments on Wojo's postgame pressers (a new phenomenon, actually) and hides / reports a majority of negative commentary on their Twitter page after losses.

The University is soft and extremely protective of Wojo. Whether it's actually Lovell and Scholl pulling the strings is hard to say, but they are responsible for the tone at the top. They've chosen to have Marquette basketball live in a make-believe world.

::)

You can believe that the MJS and any national news outlets that care to jump in on Wojo's post game zoom conferences are just kissing Lovell's and Scholl's feet and bowing to their demands.  Not surprised you'd think that.

cheebs09

Quote from: Silent Verbal on February 01, 2021, 10:03:24 AM
While I generally agree that most press conferences are strictly boilerplate, I do find it odd that Wojo is never asked about his thoughts on the team's postseason prospects, and never seems to have to answer any questions about his team's lack of postseason success during his tenure.  Those are perfectly valid questions/points for reporters to bring up.

I think my biggest takeaways from Wojo's pressers are how much he talks in generalities. Buzz was on the cutting edge of analytics from a college basketball perspective. He knew what he was trying to accomplish and measured it. Crean even had his deflections and other stuff. I'm sure it's reading too much into it, but it just seems like a lack of detail.

5DollarPitcher

Quote from: BLM on February 01, 2021, 10:46:29 AM
::)

You can believe that the MJS and any national news outlets that care to jump in on Wojo's post game zoom conferences are just kissing Lovell's and Scholl's feet and bowing to their demands.  Not surprised you'd think that.
Who in the world said that? You should re-read my post because it doesn't look like you were able to comprehend.

wadesworld

Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on February 01, 2021, 10:58:54 AM
Who in the world said that? You should re-read my post because it doesn't look like you were able to comprehend.

Yeah.  I'll stick to the idea that it is definitely a zany conspiracy to believe that reporters are asked to steer clear of certain questions/topics by Scholl and Lovell, and everyone just obliges.  You can believe otherwise.

It is funny that a guy who goes MIA when his agenda isn't being satisfied is saying other people are soft, though.  Or did I misread that?

5DollarPitcher

Quote from: BLM on February 01, 2021, 11:09:00 AM
Yeah.  I'll stick to the idea that it is definitely a zany conspiracy to believe that reporters are asked to steer clear of certain questions/topics by Scholl and Lovell, and everyone just obliges.  You can believe otherwise.

It is funny that a guy who goes MIA when his agenda isn't being satisfied is saying other people are soft, though.  Or did I misread that?
Again - not what I said, but by all means - continue with your misguided hyperboles.

To your second point, my "agenda" is always being satisfied by Wojo - Marquette basketball under Wojo embodies perpetual mediocrity. Even perpetual mediocrity involves winning every once in awhile. It's only dolts like you (and Wojo himself) that sink their teeth into 2 game win streaks against Providence and St John's or narrow escapes of Georgetown.

Why would I engage the people starting threads titled "we have a pretty good team and coach" after those wins? To try to convince you that you're wrong? You've been proven wrong so many different times and ways that it could be your full-time job at this point - yet you still won't admit it. Why bother?

wadesworld

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Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on February 01, 2021, 11:15:31 AM
Again - not what I said, but by all means - continue with your misguided hyperboles.

To your second point, my "agenda" is always being satisfied by Wojo - Marquette basketball under Wojo embodies perpetual mediocrity. Even perpetual mediocrity involves winning every once in awhile. It's only dolts like you (and Wojo himself) that sink their teeth into 2 game win streaks against Providence and St John's or narrow escapes of Georgetown.

Why would I engage the people starting threads titled "we have a pretty good team and coach" after those wins? To try to convince you that you're wrong? You've been proven wrong so many different times and ways that it could be your full-time job at this point - yet you still won't admit it. Why bother?

Misguided hyperbole?

Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on February 01, 2021, 10:43:30 AM
I don't think it's a zany conspiracy at all to believe that reporters are, at the very least, strongly encouraged to stay positive and stick to the script.

"Reporters are, at the very least, strongly encouraged to stay positive and stick to the script."  Your words.  Not mine.  Seems like a different way to say they're asked to steer clear of certain topics or questions.  Not sure how it's hyperbole.

Still going to go with zany conspiracy theory.

withoutbias

Can we get @MU82 in here?

1) Were you ever given directives on what you should or should not ask during a press conference?
2) If you had ever been told to stick to a certain script or only ask positive questions, how would you have perceived that, and would you have stuck to that script?

I don't know if that happens.  It seems like you could get local reporters to do something like that, because they have to work with you every game.  But I highly doubt any national media outlets would just do as the Marquette administration would ask.

onepost

Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on February 01, 2021, 11:15:31 AM
Again - not what I said, but by all means - continue with your misguided hyperboles.

To your second point, my "agenda" is always being satisfied by Wojo - Marquette basketball under Wojo embodies perpetual mediocrity. Even perpetual mediocrity involves winning every once in awhile. It's only dolts like you (and Wojo himself) that sink their teeth into 2 game win streaks against Providence and St John's or narrow escapes of Georgetown.

Why would I engage the people starting threads titled "we have a pretty good team and coach" after those wins? To try to convince you that you're wrong? You've been proven wrong so many different times and ways that it could be your full-time job at this point - yet you still won't admit it. Why bother?

Only explanation is that BLM is a Wojciechowski himself.
How anyone not affiliated with that family can still defend Wojo at this point is beyond me.  Especially someone as arrogant with their basketball takes as BLM is.

It was evident he wasn't the guy once the Hausers left.  I'm glad others have finally come to the same realization.

Galway Eagle

Quote from: onepostdavis on February 01, 2021, 11:25:41 AM
Only explanation is that BLM is a Wojciechowski himself.
How anyone not affiliated with that family can still defend Wojo at this point is beyond me.  Especially someone as arrogant with their basketball takes as BLM is.

It was evident he wasn't the guy once the Hausers left.  I'm glad others have finally come to the same realization.

Is calling a poster Wojo the new calling a poster Chicos?
Maigh Eo for Sam

onepost

Quote from: Galway Eagle on February 01, 2021, 11:28:02 AM
Is calling a poster Wojo the new calling a poster Chicos?

Calling the poster a Wojciechowski*.  Only a family member of Wojo could be so brazen in their defense of his coaching abilities 7 years in.

wadesworld

Quote from: onepostdavis on February 01, 2021, 11:35:56 AM
Calling the poster a Wojciechowski*.  Only a family member of Wojo could be so brazen in their defense of his coaching abilities 7 years in.

Please point out where I'm defending Wojo's coaching ability.  I haven't said a word about his coaching ability in here.  I'm not sure anyone has said anything about his coaching ability in this thread.

You'll catch up someday.

cheebs09

Quote from: MUfan12 on February 01, 2021, 10:39:31 AM
The only thing that bugged me from that presser was him saying he wished he had another timeout.

If only he hadn't wasted his last one for no goddamn reason.

What was the scenario of that timeout? Did we have trouble getting the ball in or it was to draw up a play?

5DollarPitcher

Quote from: BLM on February 01, 2021, 11:41:16 AM
Please point out where I'm defending Wojo's coaching ability.  I haven't said a word about his coaching ability in here.  I'm not sure anyone has said anything about his coaching ability in this thread.

You'll catch up someday.
It's called negative assurance. Look it up.

You don't explicitly defend Wojo, but your combativeness to those that try to criticize him / the admin provide negative assurance on your stance.

You'll catch up someday.

skianth16

Quote from: connie on February 01, 2021, 06:42:02 AM
Every team I follow promotes their coach's post game press conferences.  They make them available on websites, send out notices that they are available, put them in news feeds, etc.  Teams want fans to watch them, and they want people to comment on them. I have no idea why you are surprised that an extremely involved fan base would discuss post game press conferences, especially after successive  loses to habitual bottom tier teams in the league.  It's almost as if the not so subtle derision--"obsession" (Oh NO--Fans that are obsessed with their team!  How shocking!") is meant to denigrate an entire group of the fanbase that doesn't agree with you.

Totally agree with this. I watch post-game press conferences for all the teams I follow and pretty often for random games I watched and was interested in. Getting a coach's POV about what they were focused on in the game and what their takeaways are can be really interesting. Of course, some coaches offer more detail and have a little more personality than others, but it's a perfectly normal thing to pay attention to.

onepost

Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on February 01, 2021, 12:10:26 PM
It's called negative assurance. Look it up.

You don't explicitly defend Wojo, but your combativeness to those that try to criticize him / the admin provide negative assurance on your stance.

You'll catch up someday.

Bingo

wadesworld

#48
Quote from: 5DollarPitcher on February 01, 2021, 12:10:26 PM
It's called negative assurance. Look it up.

You don't explicitly defend Wojo, but your combativeness to those that try to criticize him / the admin provide negative assurance on your stance.

You'll catch up someday.

Seems like you're criticizing the media and administration more than Wojo to me. Admin won't let the media ask constructive questions, and media apparently just gives into it. Doesn't seem to have anything to do with Wojo.

Am I caught up now? Or any other zany conspiracy theories?

By the way, I have no problem letting people criticize Wojo.  There's plenty to criticize.  I've offered my opinion on who I'd like to have coaching Marquette.  Certainly not negative assurance.  So like I said, please find me one instance where I've defended his coaching ability in here.  This thread has literally nothing to do with his coaching ability, positive or negative.  What I will do is call out the BS for what it is.  Wojo sucks because his press conferences are bland and boring, but Bill Bellichick is very nuanced and entertaining in his.  Hysterical levels of BS.

GoldenWarrior11

Just watched.  I saw, sadly, Wojo unable to explain or how to solve the team's continued struggles.  He seems defeated and beat down.